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045: (Most Of) Signal The Skies

• Caleb Parker

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We open with gear talk and end in the heart of a song: VHS is a haunted look at memory, written to feel like a choice to sink and a choice to surface. We map the track’s story, share mix decisions, and chart the EP’s path with honest timelines and a clear creative brief.

• VHS as nostalgic grief framed as a ghost that pulls you under
• Breakdowns, syncopation, and when rhythm serves story
• Haunting cover art motifs and a visual language of hands
• Distribution via UnitedMasters and discovery beyond social
• EP scope, interlude plans, and realistic delivery window
• Finding a cleaner vocal identity and redoing older tracks

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Here you go.

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It'd be weird to be like.

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Merry birthday, dude.

SPEAKER_03:

Why did you give me this? Well, you said you the other one was Well, it still works. I just don't know why I would plug this into it and it just wouldn't Oh, that's okay.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm supplied with power cords and power strips and if you need some Velcro straps too, dude. I got you. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Dude, I got mad Velcro strips.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, I love so instead of using zip ties now at work, I started actually doing Velcro strips just because it's less of a hassle, and like instead of having to cut the the ends off or whatever, you just tighten it. And it's like and my boss likes it more too because it just looks more clean. And and then when you're doing maintenance or any type of fixing, you're not gonna scratch the heck out of your hands when you rub next to them.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep. So and they stick to the carpet.

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Yeah. Yeah. Cool.

SPEAKER_00:

I've learned so much about Velcro.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, Velcro's nice. It becomes a really you use it instead of what? Uh uh screw ties or zip ties.

SPEAKER_00:

Screw ties?

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There's screw ties and zip ties. No. No.

SPEAKER_03:

No, it's pretty heavy duty. Guess I learned something new every day.

SPEAKER_02:

You do, dude. That's how it goes in life. You just learn and you just learn and you learn.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, by the way, remember when you made fun of me for not having a pedal board? Sitting right there.

SPEAKER_02:

He's still a fancy. He's got cool pedals, too. He's got that.

SPEAKER_03:

They're not all cool.

SPEAKER_02:

He's got that Alpha Omega pedal.

SPEAKER_03:

That's the one that I brought.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

That is very biblical. Chorus. MXR envelope.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. The preamp. The envelope one is my favorite. You should just start incorporating some of that in one of our songs.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't think it would work.

SPEAKER_02:

Why not?

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Because it's more, it's mostly like a funk pedal.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, we'll write a funky, funky thing.

SPEAKER_03:

I mean like 70s funk.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh. How would you describe the sound on the It's almost like a wah, but it's like more. It's like bubbles. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

It sounds like bubbles.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I was gonna say, instead of it being like an actual like wah where like the the wave would look like this, it's more like a Yeah.

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Yeah. I don't know if I go with that route.

unknown:

No?

SPEAKER_02:

No. I feel like that's a pretty good description.

SPEAKER_03:

If you look at it in a if you ever listen, do you know Thundercat?

SPEAKER_01:

The show?

SPEAKER_03:

No, Thundercat Thundercat is uh is a bassist. He uses it. I think he's like popularizing it a little bit for like modern day. Yeah. Okay. Other than that, I don't really know. I'm sure who's the guy who's superhero cat thing?

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Who's the guy who used the star base? I can't think of the Bootsy County. Bootsy County. Yeah. He uses that pedal too, I would imagine.

unknown:

Dang.

SPEAKER_01:

The funk.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. That's so fun. Dude, we could do like a funky 70s style thing. Imagine like a 70s style like breakdown, but it's like really, really groovy. That'd be fun.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

A little bit of syncopation, like uh the one band, um Thank You Scientist. Kind of like how they would do like a thing when they might write a breakdown, but it's like super funky, and they got all the all the French horns and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03:

And they got like the fiddle.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Have you heard of that band? Oh my gosh. Thank you, Scientist is one of the weirdest bands.

SPEAKER_03:

They I don't think they're that weird because it's palatable.

SPEAKER_02:

It's like the vocalist is like Koh Heat and Cambria style vocalist. And then you don't like Koh Heat and Cambria? No, I like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, but he's like he's like Getty Lee high pitched.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. He's got he's got like a high pitch, but like it's I would say that they're more like rush style. Rush?

SPEAKER_03:

With more yeah, with more instrument instrumentation in it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, they're really, really cool. Like like um There's like nine members or something.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, probably. Anyway, I forgot to do introductions. So this is the majority of Signal Disguise. Unfortunately, Jay couldn't make it today, our drummer.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

But everybody else introduced yourself. Everybody knows me, so we'll go this way. Who are you? I'm Caleb. What do you do? I weld.

SPEAKER_00:

For the band.

SPEAKER_03:

For the band. I play bass. Guitar. Yeah, I play the big guitar.

SPEAKER_02:

The big guitar, dude. I'm Andy. I'm the vocalist slash guitar writer player, I guess I would say. For the band. CEO of the band.

unknown:

CEO.

SPEAKER_03:

Chief Executive Officer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. Continue.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh, I'm Anna.

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She just joined. How fun.

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I play guitar.

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Nice. Anything else?

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Do I?

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No, I don't know. Maybe not. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

Love to find out.

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Yeah, we'll figure that out at some point. On the next EP.

SPEAKER_01:

The mandolin, maybe.

SPEAKER_02:

Did you redo?

SPEAKER_03:

Are you talking about the upcoming EP?

SPEAKER_02:

No. No. Oh more EPs.

SPEAKER_03:

So you're not playing on any of the songs, like the singles. No, she is now.

SPEAKER_02:

So funny enough, she'll be starting to write more for like the last three songs. Really incorporate her skill in the next few. I think it'd be appropriate.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm Bree, and I was supposed to just be doing some piano stuff, and then Andy dragged me into vocals.

SPEAKER_02:

I had to beg her.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a good time.

SPEAKER_03:

It was a good time. So you hate singing.

SPEAKER_00:

I think I'm a terrible singer. You're an awesome singer. Really? I do. I truly listen, the only person that had heard me sing was a friend from college, and he pushed me to like share my music, and then Andy was sharing his music. And so I had shared something, and Andy's like, dude, you gotta be on a song. And like that's like my parents didn't even know that I like to sing.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, going back, yeah, it starts off because like, yeah, I was just sending her. This is like literally when I started sending Leaving. Yeah. And then Brue was like, Oh, this has a lot of potential. And then Leaving came out, and then I started writing Pneumonia. Probably like my favorite song that I've ever written, besides all the other ones. Yeah, it's a good one. They're all my favorites. I love them all. But pneumonia.

SPEAKER_03:

You can't have multiple favorites. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

You have to pick one. All right, dude. All right. My favorite one will have to be pneumonia, just because it's just, I don't know. It's so raw and so emotional. And it's so simple at the same time. And this is like the one song that actually doesn't have like a breakdown in it. Well, if I was happy, it doesn't have a breakdown either.

SPEAKER_03:

Are you gonna put a breakdown on every song?

SPEAKER_02:

No, I'm gonna try not to.

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I want to be more because it's value.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

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If you keep doing it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. But which is why I start doing like really random rhythms. If any if all of you notice, Anna actually, we were talking about this earlier today, and I was like, I write the most annoying breakdowns possible. Just to have give it the most randomest syncopated rhythm possible where it doesn't make sense half the time.

SPEAKER_03:

You better hope the music theorists don't listen to this and come after you once they hear it. They might not agree.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, they might like it.

SPEAKER_03:

They might like it. I'm just saying they might also be like, dude, you can do it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, get your powerpoint right.

SPEAKER_02:

Sometimes I want to hit the polyghums. Well, sometimes I want to hit it on the E instead of the and.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

You know? Yeah. But um, oh yeah. Anyway, going back to the story, uh, I shared pneumonia with Bree, and I originally like sang on the bridge, and I was like, hey, you know, I can't remember how I said it.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I shared something with you that I was working on. Oh, that's right. And then you were like, hey, you should really sing on this, and I'm like, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, no, that's exactly how it went. I shared pneumonia and then she shared something back, and she was singing on it, and I was like, it would be really cool to like get a different vocalist for the like for this song then. And I was like, a female vocalist is like top tier when it comes to a metal song. A lot of a lot of metal frontline uh or women frontline bands are super super popular. So I was like, let's get Brie on it. And it took forever for me to convince her. And then she came back and she's like, Alright, here's this. This is just a yeah, I was like, just listen.

SPEAKER_00:

You can hate it and delete it and not do anything.

SPEAKER_02:

And then I listened to it, and then it was just it it worked perfectly. And then when her harmonies came in, I'm like, she's gotta be on this song. There's no doubt about it.

SPEAKER_03:

This is all a story that I haven't heard because I wasn't part. I joined later.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. You joined, you joined post yeah, like lately. Lately is when you came back.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh wow. I was gonna actually have him write bass for pneumonia and violet, and then we had different musicians. We broke up for a minute, and then we're now back together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Destiny. For those of you who don't know, Andy is actually married to a woman.

SPEAKER_02:

I am. Don't worry. You know, talking about marriage, I forgot my ring. I'm so screwed. Did you better not have your hand on the camera though?

SPEAKER_03:

There's gonna be a lot of single ladies. Oh no. That's why Stefan hasn't been back.

SPEAKER_02:

He's probably been caught by all the ladies. JK.

SPEAKER_00:

I was just gonna let that pop through that.

SPEAKER_03:

I have no comment. Actually, I'm doing one with him tomorrow. Yeah, him and Ethan.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh. I miss both of those guys. I'm coming in. I'm gonna interrupt.

SPEAKER_03:

Maybe I'll ask them if you can come on.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, why ask them it's your podcast? What?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, because it's because the one that we're doing is your red flannel boys. Yeah, it's like the special ones that come out.

SPEAKER_04:

This is my podcast.

SPEAKER_03:

Maybe they can maybe they'll be if they don't want to do it under that logo or whatever, then that's why. Okay. It's not telling me for the first time.

SPEAKER_02:

Dang. Alright. Well, let me know. If not.

SPEAKER_03:

But they're gonna it's gonna be about the Charlie Kirk thing.

SPEAKER_00:

So well, we just got canceled, alright.

SPEAKER_03:

Cancelled?

SPEAKER_02:

We can't talk about that stuff. Yeah, I can't bring that up. Oh, really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02:

Just be careful.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a hot topic right now.

SPEAKER_02:

It is a hot topic. Did you speak just to get off tangent? Did you notice that people are like theorizing and like looking closer into that whole entire thing and how they're like don't let me go down that rabbit hole.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm just gonna I'm just gonna leave it at that. I've already gone down all the conspiracies.

SPEAKER_00:

We gotta chat later. Not recording.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, we're talking about music today.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, there's no rules to this podcast. You can talk about anything. I just wanted to have the people from the band on and then also talk about the new single, which comes out in two uh two weeks or two weeks recording.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, two weeks-ish. So now that we think about it, we we can talk about it here too. I think it'd be great. Um the plan for our new single to come out, VHS, is October 17th, which is great. It's got some spooky vibes to it, really fly leaf style is um what a couple people have been saying for this one, which I like because I love fly leaf. Um so October 17th would would be a pretty cool time because it's like a little bit before Halloween, so that way people can give it a give it a listen, give it a chance, and hopefully it carries on. Maybe we'll it'll go on some spooky TikToks or something like that. It'd be sweet.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, so now that we're on the subject, what is the story behind this song? Because I I don't even know.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't think. Um Brie kind of took a little bit of a lead on this one.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I did the lyrics for this song. Oh, really? I did.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, so the s story kind of behind it, so there's the metaphor of the ghost like dragging me deeper into my memories, and the idea is like when you're thinking of a time in the past that you kind of miss, you're kind of mourning or grieving, you wish you were still there, and you let your mind just go there and drown for a little bit. You're like, I just want to think about this, I just want to mourn this a little bit, or or even if it was a happy time, not even a sad time, but uh you just life is different and it's not like that anymore. And you're like, you know what? I'm just I'm good to just kind of drown in my memories here for a little bit. So that's the metaphor of my ghost is like my past self drags me deeper and I don't mind. I'm good to drown here.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah, just to add on to that too, because it's like one of those things where you just become so reminiscent on everything, you you miss those times, and so it's kind of like a like a melancholic feel because you're like, Oh, I can't go back to that. I can't, you know, rewind. And so it's like calling it VHS was a little bit of a vibe for for that.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, okay, so it's supposed to be like nostalgic, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. So yeah, no, the lyrics are super good. I think, yeah, Bree to pretty much wrote all of them except the bridge. I think the bridge was just mainly my part. So, and yeah, just kind of adding on top of that, you know, like who knows if I'll ever get it back, you know, because you're just there. And so, yeah, it becomes a really cool thing. And we just actually got done with our little bit of a photo shoe for like promo stuff.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, um, yesterday. Um, it was sweet.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, my friend or our friend, it's Anna's friend too, uh, Britt.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm pretty sure we're friends now.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah, you guys are like besties now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Wait, photo shoot.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. Well, like for the album cover or like the the cover for the for the song and then like a couple promos and like putting the canvas up on Spotify and stuff like that. Oh that's how we're able to do all like the cool videos that we've been doing on Spotify, instead of it just being like the picture of the cover.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, not a band photo. We you didn't you didn't miss anything.

SPEAKER_02:

No, don't worry.

SPEAKER_03:

I was hoping I did. But just Photoshop Kay look at the Photoshop my old the other one that we have.

SPEAKER_02:

That was that was a really good picture of you.

SPEAKER_03:

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02:

Flattered blushing and looking at Andy, beautiful. I know. It's like it's so easy now. Well, easy to make me blush. Yeah. Yeah. Overall, yeah, no, VH, um, but just getting into it, I think there's just a little bit of a struggle with like kind of the what's going on with the mix. And I think I don't know. What do you guys think? Like, do you guys think we can just real quick bring it back to Landon, who, if nobody knows Landon mixes and masters our songs, and he's been doing it since uh Violet.

SPEAKER_03:

And so Well, we all know my ultimate opinion, but yeah, I do think that it needs to go back. Go back. I should show it to you on my headphones after this. Yeah. Because it like it it sounds like they're gonna explode.

SPEAKER_02:

Really?

SPEAKER_03:

Yes. That's kind of scary. I wonder lower volume, like I can feel the little speaker rumbling.

SPEAKER_02:

Ooh, I wonder, I wonder if he did max out on his like overall.

SPEAKER_00:

I would be curious to actually see the mix, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I know I keep funny enough, I keep telling him, I'm like, Landon, while you're mixing, take some videos for me, because I would love some of this stuff to post it on her.

SPEAKER_03:

What if he doesn't want people to know his secret?

SPEAKER_01:

His secrets.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, it's like that's gonna get sausage.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

You can't give away. Well, that just means they're copying Landon and that gives him all the boobs.

SPEAKER_03:

No, because then it takes business away from him.

SPEAKER_00:

New sausage from Landon.

SPEAKER_03:

Because if uh they can have their own thing. If if like so you know how there's like guitar teachers on YouTube and stuff teaching you all all their secrets, it's like they're doing that because their secrets aren't very good. And then otherwise they'd be like, otherwise people would be learning their bass lines. People would have videos of them too. It's kind of the same thing.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So if he gave away all the secrets, maybe he thinks it's the best way to do things and he wants to do it.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I think it would still save him because it's like we don't have to tag him. People would just know what our producing is.

SPEAKER_03:

But they would still know how he's doing it. It doesn't matter if his name is in there. Like, oh, I don't know this guy's name, so I can't copy his tactics.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, dude. That's exactly how it should work. Well, that's not how it works.

SPEAKER_03:

Wishful thinking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But even if it was just like a little bit of B-roll, you don't even have to see specifics of what he's doing.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, if you did like a really cool time-lapse video. His computer is just all black and he's just like working. It doesn't even look like he's doing it.

SPEAKER_03:

No, just like make it like uh what they do when they have to like censor certain pictures on YouTube. Just a big tag censored. That or just like make it like blurry. Pixelated. Pixelated. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I like that. Yeah. We just need to bring it back. So we'll see if it if it does stick to being October 17th. Um, but yeah, it would be really cool if we could still put it that. If not, still soon. Push it. Still. Yeah. If if we need to push it a week, it's not gonna hurt my feelings. I mean, overall, it's like we're we're still putting music out, which is great.

SPEAKER_03:

Plus, John's flipped album comes out on October 17th as well.

SPEAKER_02:

Who even is John? Just kidding. He was great. He he was on one of our songs too, and he actually made that song super fun.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, he was perfect for that song.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. You know what's crazy? I almost considered um one of my old buddies who also has a punk band um to do vocals. And uh, what is his band name again? Uh oh, the the the skinny limbs, just because I like his voice. Um you remember Mitch Garcia? Yeah, I almost considered him, and then I was like, ah, you know what? I think I think John would fit this more.

SPEAKER_03:

Are you still friends with him?

SPEAKER_02:

Mitch Garcia? Yeah, I haven't talked to him in a while, but he still follows me and you know, comments on some of my stuff, and he follows the band too. Yeah, he's a cool guy. He's going on, I think he's gonna have a second kid. Whoa. Whoa, indeed. Yeah. Anyway, so but yeah, got some promo stuff done. Bree's slowly working on it. We just need to get an official like audio so we can put it on the clip. And then we'll from there and it's sweet though.

SPEAKER_00:

I think they turned out really sweet. She did really good.

SPEAKER_02:

She did a really, really good job.

SPEAKER_03:

Where like like music video asked type stuff?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, kind of like, yeah, so we had like the idea. So did you decide on what you're gonna do for the album cover yet? Are you gonna do the one where it's like I haven't decided yet?

SPEAKER_03:

Honestly, so did you guys leave me out because you thought we were gonna fall in love? Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

You told them no, I didn't tell him anything yet, actually, though. But all three of us, I think we can try and see if we can probably He seems to know something.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I told him about Nobody can nobody can tame this wild stallion. That just doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_02:

He said Calm down, spirit.

SPEAKER_01:

So you still haven't even met her.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh correct.

SPEAKER_00:

I do think you should meet her. She's amazing. After meeting her, I three of us, dude.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh some what do you say, Jay?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, but you'd oh very sad. Um But you two don't know me that well, so you wouldn't be able to tell if I'd match her there. And Andy thinks I'd do well with anybody.

SPEAKER_02:

That's not true.

SPEAKER_03:

That is true.

SPEAKER_00:

I agree with Caleb on this one.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh but it's because I just like Caleb so much. Yeah. Yeah.

unknown:

That's so nice.

SPEAKER_03:

So music video type stuff. Yeah. And promo. I wish I could see him, but I'm not on any of the social media.

SPEAKER_02:

Do you have any of the video stuff on your phone or anything?

SPEAKER_00:

No, I didn't have because I'm still still working on it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

But no, I think so. We took one picture and we th I think it would be a really cool album cover where it's like it's her, and then like Brit's face is like kind of like covering her, where like the eyes still pop out.

SPEAKER_00:

Britt's hand is covering my face. Britt's face is not covering my face.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, sorry, Britt's hand is covering her face.

SPEAKER_00:

That would be a whole different kind of album cover.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Brit's face is covering your face.

SPEAKER_00:

So we did a few shots where so we had uh light in the back against the black wall.

SPEAKER_02:

The light bulbs.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Just one, just to give light light. It's the only place to go. Uh and then I brought from homework a big white flowy cloak almost.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Like a robe. Yeah. It's like the Jesus robe that they use for plays on Christmas.

SPEAKER_03:

Where do you work where that's obtainable?

SPEAKER_00:

We have a whole costume closet.

SPEAKER_03:

They do Oh, you work at a church.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

How do you obtain that?

SPEAKER_00:

I stole it. No. Uh, and then I'm standing in front of her and she like reaches around. You can see like half her face, and she comes over and like grabs my face. But it's like it's actually turned out pretty cool.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

That sounds really scary. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You might have to cover your eyes.

SPEAKER_03:

I might have to.

SPEAKER_02:

Honestly, dude, I like the it's really cool that we're going for like this haunting vibe. So there's actually a couple of people that have reached out to me. They're like, is there a crow like some sort of thing to align here? Because they notice that like the past two album covers have been similar, where it's like the hand reaching out and then the hand that's like holding the key.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And so they're like, something is going on here.

SPEAKER_03:

You should have one that does this. So that people can really get into the content. That'll be the last one.

SPEAKER_01:

Controversy.

SPEAKER_02:

That'll be the EP album cover.

SPEAKER_03:

Perfect.

SPEAKER_02:

Just uh it's actually Well, what's gonna be the next one?

SPEAKER_03:

They're all hands, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, the I mean VHS will be the last single before the EP comes out. I'm not putting out anymore.

SPEAKER_03:

So, but all the singles are gonna have some type of hand.

SPEAKER_02:

The EP will be where we finally put the two hands together, the one holding the key and the one.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, then what's what's the single picture for VHS then? If you can say. If it's gonna spoil too much.

SPEAKER_00:

That's what I'm still trying to figure out. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, something in that movement of that video. I don't know if it's gonna be her reaching.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, we're conjoining we did it, guys.

SPEAKER_00:

It won't look similar to the last.

SPEAKER_02:

The last two. Yeah, it'll probably be like full on, where it's like we finally have a face to show kind of thing. The the I hate saying the word, but that's like the only word I could think of, but like the deity of what our memories and our mistakes and issues um will be.

SPEAKER_03:

And a deity means God.

SPEAKER_02:

That's not the word then.

SPEAKER_03:

I think you're thinking of entity.

SPEAKER_02:

Entity.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I was like deity. We're going straight sleep token.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yeah, my bad. Also blasphemous. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey.

SPEAKER_02:

Hey, we're Christians in a van.

SPEAKER_03:

We're not a Christian band, so it's like So that make that gives us an excuse to be blasphemous and heretical. Yeah. Alright.

SPEAKER_02:

Just kidding.

SPEAKER_00:

Wait for Caleb to turn around and grab the Bible and go, listen, Candy. That's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_03:

This jumbo one, too. And it's King James. Oh.

SPEAKER_00:

That means it's serious.

SPEAKER_02:

That means it's the real one. I didn't know we were getting that crazy. Yeah, you might open it. Whoa.

SPEAKER_01:

Maybe an effigy?

SPEAKER_02:

Ooh. I forgot. See.

SPEAKER_01:

Caleb's the only one that knows what that means.

SPEAKER_02:

What?

SPEAKER_01:

It's a word I've heard before.

SPEAKER_02:

Effigy.

SPEAKER_03:

I actually don't know what that means. Please tell us. Yeah, nay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Caleb's the only one that knows what that means. That the only other person that knows what it is.

SPEAKER_03:

I've heard of it. I just don't know what it means.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. But no, overall, super cool. So hopefully October 17th for whoever is excited for this, be on the lookout. Follow Signal the Sky's Band on Instagram and TikTok.

SPEAKER_03:

Um You're acting like it's over, dude.

SPEAKER_02:

What? Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

That's what you want. Say it multiple times. Just say it whenever you can. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Hey guys, follow us on TikTok and Instagram, Signal the Sky's Band. At sign Signal Sky. We do have a Facebook too.

SPEAKER_03:

For all the booms.

SPEAKER_02:

All the boomers. Yeah. No. Yeah. All the Unks out there.

SPEAKER_03:

Did we find out? Is that what they call it? We do have some boomer fans. Dude, my nephew called me Unk the other day, and it's cute. It really hurt me.

SPEAKER_02:

You're in your 30s, Unk. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Did you figure out what it means? Yeah, it's uh has to pull up her phone again. We didn't memorize it.

SPEAKER_01:

A sculpture or model of a person.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh I always see when I hear that, now that I heard the definition, I thought it meant like a storyline of somebody.

SPEAKER_02:

Like what's that's elegy? Oh. Yeah. Elegy, effigy.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, the effigy would be the physical manifestation of something. What's the eulogy?

SPEAKER_03:

Like when I die?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, oh my gosh. Elegy is like the whole story, but then eulogy is the ending of the story.

SPEAKER_03:

Is elegy even a word? Yeah. Like I don't think I've ever heard it.

SPEAKER_01:

If you say it enough times, any word will sound like it's not a real world word anymore.

SPEAKER_02:

Like bluffernicus.

SPEAKER_00:

That was that a word? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

The ending makes you seem like you would have been that guy. Of that word. What did it what? Don't just don't say it again.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that was we're gonna get cancelled for that too.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh man, my bad. But YouTube's gonna pick that up and be like, hey, they said a word.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he's not dark enough to say that.

SPEAKER_03:

Exactly. That's what it's not. That's oh my bad. It's giving those vibes kind of old last name. Which you don't need to say that either, but um anyway. Facebook for the unks.

SPEAKER_02:

Facebook for all the unks.

SPEAKER_03:

Do you post on Facebook for Facebook?

SPEAKER_02:

Um I have the Instagram and Facebook like tagged together, and I'm trying to get the TikTok to get the Facebook, but for some reason, every trying to every time I try to cook put them together, it like is like error. It's not working. I'm like, why? Um They used to be connected to the city.

SPEAKER_03:

Is there a way to promote without social media, or is that like the only way now?

SPEAKER_02:

Sadly, social media is like our biggest crutch right now.

SPEAKER_00:

Although I did say it'd be really cool to make some QR code stickers and then go around and just stick them everywhere.

SPEAKER_02:

Tag them on the gym and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, put them on the treadmill.

SPEAKER_00:

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, nobody would know. Nobody would know. Nobody would know what.

SPEAKER_00:

Gas station pump.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah, dude, they put Biden stickers on the gas station pump so we could put QR codes, dude. Exactly. That's why that is if you got the idea.

SPEAKER_01:

But couldn't make like business cards with it and then make it look really mysterious. Like uh, what's that?

unknown:

That one.

SPEAKER_02:

Like the Squid Game thing? Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking about.

SPEAKER_01:

Squid Game.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, people wouldn't pick it up if we did that.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, it wouldn't be like Squid Game, the place. Like a little circle, triangle, square. No, something else mysterious. Somebody can't put them.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm not gonna say who did this because I don't want to use his name when he's not around, but a former Amazon delivery driver that I used to know would put the podcast on business cards and like drop them off with a box. That's what I'm saying. Which is illegal, but he did it anyway. Well, who's who's really gonna get the law involved with something like that? Yeah. Like, hey, somebody left a business card. And I bet the police would be like it's not worth our time. 911, what's your emergency?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, people be leaving business cards in my mailbox. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, it was with a package, like an Amazon package. He's gonna text me when this episode comes out and be like, dude, that was me. Shout out to you, dog.

SPEAKER_00:

Does he want to do some QR code stickers?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, dude. Ask him if he'll do some QR stickers. I'll ask him next time because he works for a different delivery company now.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh man. He betrayed Amazon.

SPEAKER_03:

Which I can't say. It's actually like confidential.

SPEAKER_02:

Alfedix?

SPEAKER_03:

I can't say.

SPEAKER_02:

Post post post office? The US post office. USPS. USPS. Actually, post office, USPO.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, it's postal service. Oh. Yeah, you drop your stuff off. Dang it. Yeah, my bad. Dude.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't use that stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

But I appreciate your confidence, and you know, when you were saying it, you were.

SPEAKER_02:

You don't use the postal service? I can't say I ever have. Shame. Usually when I return stuff to Amazon, I just go to Kohl's. Because they have the thing there.

unknown:

That's true.

SPEAKER_03:

What? Yeah. They have an Amazon. Why did you walk into Coles to begin with? That's the return something to return. Yeah, but you didn't. Did you know? How did you know the Amazon thing was there? Oh, they tell you.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, they ask you how you want to return if you ever do a return. Have you ever done a return for Amazon? No. Okay. Well, if you ever get the chance to.

SPEAKER_00:

I feel like Caleb's the kind of guy that doesn't sleep on Amazon, which I also support.

SPEAKER_03:

Actually, I barely ever order off Amazon.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, how about this? Order something really cheap on Amazon and then be like, oh, I don't like it. And then do I want to do a return. And then it's gonna be like, do you want to go to your local Kohl's or some other place?

SPEAKER_03:

I will say I admire Kohl's business tactic to get people in there because they know they're failing.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, yeah, Kohl's is like three feet away from your house.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it really is. I could walk there, but I

SPEAKER_03:

You have one out there?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. It's right next door to the hibachi place. I've never been there, but I've heard it's good, and I've also heard like sketchy things about it. Is it?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, sometimes sketchy is the way.

SPEAKER_02:

That's true.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02:

There's that number one Chinese food place I go to that's like four or five minutes away from me. Sketchiest little spot, but man, that food is good.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, you gotta go to first walk.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been there too. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Alpine does have everything. It just takes 30 minutes to get anywhere.

SPEAKER_02:

Now people know where I live.

SPEAKER_03:

Nobody wants to do it. As if I don't deal with the paparazzis and it's not worth driving down Alpine to find somebody anyway.

SPEAKER_02:

So Alpine is horrible. Traffic can get kind of crazy sometimes up there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

They make bumper stickers about how much people hate Alpine. Really? Oh, dude, now I want one.

SPEAKER_04:

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, then it uh includes a bad word. So I wouldn't get one on your car.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that's true. I don't condone that behavior.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, you better not.

SPEAKER_02:

Never.

SPEAKER_00:

You better not.

SPEAKER_02:

Never ever. But yeah. So Amazon Amazon.

SPEAKER_03:

Amazon delivery.

SPEAKER_02:

Those returns you can do it at Kohl's. I think they do it at Walgreens too, sometimes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Alright, so back to the where we were we were talking about like Facebook and stuff. Yeah. Oh yeah, I was gonna say if there's better ways to promote, to just get off social media. Because I gotta say, it's been peaceful without it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I know. I think that's the only reason I kind of like hold on to my social media is because of the band stuff. And that's the only way to do it is like building reels and like making videos or like any chance to just be like, oh hey, our song is out, and then putting like a cool video with it or whatever.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, but do you ever get caught up in the views and the likes when you post something on TikTok? Like, oh, how many views is this one getting?

SPEAKER_02:

I think I I used to actually get be a lot worse. I think now I wait a couple days and be like, oh, sweet, it made it over a hundred views. That's pretty good, and then just leave it alone from there. And if I get any likes or comments or anything like that, like I actually had this one random TikToker um be like, Oh dude, I just found you guys and I'm so excited for this new single. And I'm like, Yeah, it's sick, dude. And he post it on his on his story, and he like does a whole bunch of like metal. Oh sweet. Yeah. So I think those kinds of things also help in a way. Um, but yeah, I also just plugged our band too when I was at Guitar Center a couple days ago. I was buying that was when we were on the phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I was buying a bunch of equipment for the church, and uh this guy was buying a new interface, and I was like, Oh, dude, you should buy this one instead because it has like the warm compressor and stuff like that. Like, because that's the one it was the the UA 276 or whatever that I want to buy. The Universal Audio. Did I show you that one? The blue one? No, it's like wood, green, and white. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, the focus right?

SPEAKER_02:

No, it's uh it's well, it's not a focus right, but it's like the focus right just better.

SPEAKER_03:

Is it the same brand?

SPEAKER_02:

No, it's universal audio.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, okay. That's yeah, got it.

SPEAKER_01:

It's the one I convinced him that he wanted instead of getting the blue one.

SPEAKER_02:

Which that blue one is still pretty dude, focus on it.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't know anything about interfaces. I just bought that one because it works, and I got it refurbished for like 80 bucks.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, now you gotta get a DAW.

SPEAKER_03:

What's a DAW?

SPEAKER_02:

Digital workstation, you know? Audio workstation. Why do I need that? So you can record garage band.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. I sent it to John and he's like, dude, this sounds sick. So I did that misery. Yeah, I think for like single instruments, garage band is fine. Yeah, I would say like mixing and stuff, it's probably terrible.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, I tried, yeah. I tried, I jumped on garage band a little bit when I was doing uh a multiple, a multi-track kind of thing for the church, and you could not do multi-tracks on garage band. I'm like, dude, I can't use this.

SPEAKER_03:

What's a multi-track?

SPEAKER_02:

It's like when you do multiple recording takes in one go. So, like, that's what you would do if you're like recording drums, and then the drums have like 10 to 13 different microphones. So you could do a multi-track setting, highlight them all, and then they would all record at the same time while you're playing.

SPEAKER_03:

There is a way you can do that because I remember one time I found out how to do that when I was first starting to do the podcast. Remember when I was like really finicky about editing, we figured out how to record all the mics at the same time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did you so you could with Garage Band or was that with Logic? That was with GarageBand because I used my laptop. Oh. Yeah. I don't have Logic or whatever the other one is. What's the big one?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh, there's Fruity Loops, uh, Ableton, Pro Tools. Pro Tools.

SPEAKER_03:

Pro Tools, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I hate Pro Tools.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So much. That is the like the one when I was in college and they wanted us to use Pro Tools, and I was like, what is this? And then I found out about like Reaper, and I was like, oh, Reaper's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03:

But so bad about Pro Tools.

SPEAKER_02:

It's just overly complex, and some of the stuff you just can't find. It's just a lot to learn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You just have to learn it where things are.

SPEAKER_02:

Ableton is crazy too. That's what Landon uses to mix and master our stuff, is Ableton.

SPEAKER_03:

But if you do learn everything from Pro Tools, does it become one of the better ones to use?

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, yes, if you were to put it on your resume, you'd get hired. I mean, I was gonna get like certified in Pro Tools in college. There was like this huge book and test thing I was gonna go through.

SPEAKER_03:

But now you're Dante certified instead. Yeah, but what what stopped you from doing Pro Tools?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh well, I mean I used it through college. Oh and then I was planning to get certified because that would look really good on a resume. And then uh COVID hit. We all went home.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, COVID uh is a word that gets you demonetized in YouTube too.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh well, 2020 trash sent us home.

SPEAKER_02:

Jeez. Also crazy.

SPEAKER_03:

There's like so many words that get you censored. Anyway, yeah, you like that. What is that? What is that? I got it from some like gym clothing store. Ah, dude, that's amazing. And I don't know where to put it because I actually like that.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, they can't say that word either.

SPEAKER_03:

No, you can't say killer. Oh you can't say Hitler murderer, mass shooting, gone. You can't say anything.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, just say, well, dude, that is so cool. It's like bullet bill-esque.

SPEAKER_03:

It is kind of bullet bill. But I don't know what to put it on, so like I just keep it. Put it on your laptop, dude. No.

SPEAKER_02:

I would put it on my laptop.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, anyway, back to Pro Tools. That's what we were on.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, I feel like you should just learn it. Just go through all the pains. But the thing is, I feel like learning stuff on video is really annoying because you're like trying to like figure it out. I just do it as I go. Like all the podcast stuff, I just learn more and more as I go like, oh, this editing video.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, because what do you use to fully edit your audio and stuff like that? Or do you just let because you do the video programming thing too, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I use Cap Cut for video and people would make fun of me for that because it's like eight dollars a month. Dude, Cab Cut is actually But it works for podcasting because you don't need anything special for this. Yeah, exactly. And then for audio, the what is it called? It's almost like what's like Disco Monkey or whatever it's called that you use for like songs. What is that?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, Distro Kid. Yeah. Distro Kid.

SPEAKER_03:

What what is monkey? What is that?

SPEAKER_02:

Like that's your distribution.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, yeah. So I use Buzz Sprout for my distribution, and they have something where if you pay a little extra, they'll just make all the mic levels even. Oh, nice. And like cut out any background noise automatically.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Oh, dude, United Masters does that too. That's what I use to put our music up. 60 bucks a year, not bad. Um, but before they let you like officially put out your song, they're like, hey, do you want like a United Masters mastered version of your song or whatever? And they show you like a clip of it and it's like a 30-second clip and it's like a different sound. And I've always I've almost considered it. I almost did it for as a cost extra. It's like five bucks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Is that the distribution thing that you use is United Masters?

SPEAKER_02:

United Masters for, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

And is that who pays you if you make yeah when you get more plays?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. So it's yeah, so I don't know if I showed you the app. I have the app on my phone, but it like shows you all of like your like your progress and stuff like that. It even like builds you a couple different um like little reels to like the little post-it thing, like, hey, this song comes out so and so time. It also like shows a bunch of like excuse exclusive things to where you can advertise your song through a bunch of different things as well. Like we could get our song on ESPN if we really tried. Imagine our song being on the next Maggie. I mean, they could make it happen, but it's obvious that it would have to get approved by the actual companies too. Like, let's say, for example, if we wanted our song to be on like 2K27, you know, like the basketball game or whatever. Like, well, 2K's gotta be like, okay, yeah, this is a good song. Let's let's put it on there.

SPEAKER_03:

Plus, if they did send it out and somehow it ends up on ESPN 2, dude, I'd be heartbroken. Dude. That would be the worst.

SPEAKER_02:

ESPN2? Isn't that the one where they just show like the backlogs of most sports?

SPEAKER_03:

It's like poker sometimes.

SPEAKER_02:

Can you imagine just VHS in the background while people are putting it playing blackjack?

SPEAKER_01:

ESPN just got WWE.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh. Oh, dude, our song on WWE, dude.

SPEAKER_01:

Actually, that would work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

They just bought WWE?

SPEAKER_01:

No, they got they did a deal with so they can play it on ESP. Yeah, for streaming. Oh.

SPEAKER_02:

And let's face it, like WWE, like, it's great.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's really cool.

SPEAKER_03:

Do you guys actually think it's cool?

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, there's nothing better than guys wrestling and throwing chairs at each other.

SPEAKER_01:

Man meat, slapping man meat. Okay. You gotta watch it.

SPEAKER_00:

That didn't work for me. There was nothing in that sentence that encouraged me to watch it.

SPEAKER_02:

But I don't think the Caleb's smile went away for like three seconds. He's like, no.

SPEAKER_03:

It's just like fake wrestling.

SPEAKER_00:

They have girls fight too. That's the worst.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah, it is. It is fake. Yeah, I just don't think I'd watch it.

SPEAKER_01:

It's fake, but it's like really athletic. Yeah. It's interesting to watch.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, these guys will sometimes actually hit each other. Like, no joke.

SPEAKER_01:

They take real bumps, but like the punches and stuff are all fake.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But they do like pick each other.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, they do it for UFC and stuff.

SPEAKER_03:

They use gloves. But I've heard that those gloves do actually more damage than Yeah, because you got the thick pad.

SPEAKER_02:

Because it's meant to protect your hands and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03:

That's why if boxing wasn't rigged, it'd be cool to watch. But it is.

SPEAKER_01:

See, everybody knows that WWE is fake though, and that's what makes it fun.

SPEAKER_02:

It's just an acting. Yeah. Yeah. It's just an act, and it's it's fun to watch sometimes.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_02:

Like who doesn't like watching John Cena take on The Undertaker? You know? I just have no interest. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

I mean, I get it. I'll watch it for the memory. Everybody has their thing. Good for you.

SPEAKER_02:

I'll watch it for the meme because it's like, I mean, come on, John Cena and some jorts, and he's just like, you can't see me.

SPEAKER_01:

He's retiring this time. And he's old.

SPEAKER_02:

He's so old.

SPEAKER_03:

That's one of those things that I have to do. Like 45. 45.

SPEAKER_02:

No way. He is. Is he really only 45?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, look at him. I thought he was older.

SPEAKER_02:

I thought so too. Man's wearing knee braces.

SPEAKER_03:

I mean you could wear those at 45. Yeah. 45 is pretty old.

SPEAKER_01:

He's 48.

SPEAKER_03:

That's pretty old for his athletics.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Have you ever watched Slap Fighting?

SPEAKER_02:

No. No.

SPEAKER_03:

All the slap thing that people have been doing lately. Yeah, it's Dana White from the UFC thing started it.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude.

SPEAKER_00:

I have seen clips of that.

SPEAKER_02:

I see those clips sometimes, and I'm like, there is no way. Like you are losing an eardrum from that catastrophic smack to the face.

SPEAKER_03:

They wear earplugs.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, do they? Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00:

You would have to. Mouth guard, probably.

SPEAKER_03:

But they're always just like massive dudes. Yeah. It's like bang. But that's gotta be really bad because they get knocked out from one slap sometimes. And like their head hits the table and they've seen them. They get back up and then start like.

SPEAKER_02:

That's where our songs need to go, is the slab fights.

SPEAKER_03:

I feel like that'd be kind of a letdown, too. Like if it was like UFC fighters.

SPEAKER_02:

Huh?

SPEAKER_01:

That's United Masters. United Masters. They do pitching for you.

SPEAKER_02:

They can help with the pitching.

SPEAKER_01:

So yeah, I mean it's have on pitch to the slap fight.

SPEAKER_02:

So it's like they they have different distributions and stuff like that. They give you the options to do so. So and then like, yeah, our song, like they're like, oh, we can try and get your song on people's like Twitch accounts and stuff like that. Like they could play it or whatever. And would you get royalties from that? Oh yeah, 100%. Yeah. The thing is, is like whatever listens you get, then you're getting paid for that. And that's based on every dis distributor that we're on. And we're on like all of them. Hmm. Yeah, we're on Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, YouTube Music. Um, some of the ones that even we don't even use ourselves. Like um uh what is that one? It's like call I think it's called like Fiverr or something like that.

SPEAKER_03:

Some isn't that where you pay people to write stuff for your song?

SPEAKER_02:

On what? Fiverr. I don't remember. I don't remember Title. Title, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh yeah, five sorry, Fiverr is the one I think where the Yeah, you like send your song out and be like, hey, I need someone to play drums on this, and then you pay yeah yeah, and then they'll do it. Oh, that's sweet.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. There was one time speaking of like having somebody like write lyrics for us for a second, I just wanted to find some like better words to put on one of our songs. And just for fun, I was like, let me see what ChatGPT would say. And Bree was immediately like, no, we're not using that. I love Chat GPT lyrics.

SPEAKER_00:

I shut that down so quick. You did. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_02:

It's okay. Did you like him? No, it the he just like like chat or sorry, it's not a he. It just like made it more formal.

SPEAKER_03:

Somebody gives a little too much power to this.

SPEAKER_02:

I know. Sorry. That was an accident. I take it back. I don't actually like Chat GPT. My Bailey uses ChatGPT for everything.

SPEAKER_04:

Like to they them.

SPEAKER_02:

They them? Yes, I think that's fair.

SPEAKER_03:

Cancelled they them is the funniest out of all of the gender identities, I think. Because how do you like why?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03:

Would you because like there's this guy, the shipping and receiving guy at work who's like just against all of that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

And he's in like these group chats, and sometimes they'll sneak onto his computer and be like, yeah, sounds good. By the way, my pronouns are now the but it's funny because he's like a hu like a bodybuilder. But he's still he's 23, so he still has like the young face. Oh, yeah. He's a really funny dude. That's funny. He's he's really funny though.

SPEAKER_02:

I love that. I would play it prank like that. Oh my gosh. I don't understand that that gender thing. It does it never makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, it's crazy it is uh wild. They them. But that would be what chat GTP would probably be is they then. Thear. Or it, whatever it slash.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It slash it.

SPEAKER_02:

What if somebody is what if somebody is like a we us?

SPEAKER_03:

I identify as we that would be a demon, because that's how demons that's Legion.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Whoa. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

Is that from a movie?

SPEAKER_03:

No, that's from the Bible.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03:

No, it is from the people the Bible, the people. But there is also Legion. Isn't it about that? Is that the one where the grandma like crawls on the ceiling? Yes. She's like, Oh, you're so terrible, and then she just starts climbing on the stairs.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, I remember that trailer. I've never seen that movie, but I remember that trailer popping up.

SPEAKER_03:

I remember that was like one of the scariest things, and now everything that comes out is just like that's why I won't c watch Constantine anymore.

SPEAKER_02:

That movie was cool, but learning that it's like super demonic. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. I don't even know that movie.

SPEAKER_02:

I think you would have liked it if you're like into those movies. I know you don't like a lot of like scary or like spiritually effective movies.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't like scary either.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, you really watch high school musical and a scary movie in the same movie.

SPEAKER_02:

Let's watch the scary movie and then high school musical after to like.

SPEAKER_00:

I will not do a scary movie either. I will not.

SPEAKER_03:

I have to stay here by myself and I will stay up all night. Ever since midsunday.

SPEAKER_01:

Did you say though? Literally in a fortress of solitude.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, dude, you got knights walking around here all the time. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00:

Still the hallway with their spears. You're right in their Caleb.

SPEAKER_02:

These windows.

SPEAKER_03:

These windows are ground level.

SPEAKER_01:

You live in a fortress.

SPEAKER_03:

It is. Yeah, just don't tell them exactly which one. Um the scary movies really do freak me out. I remember when I watched Midsummer, I had to have the lights on for a whole week.

SPEAKER_02:

Midsummer is a weird one.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, it was terrible. And then and then since that I don't really watch them.

SPEAKER_02:

That movie's nuts.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I won't either. I I'm going to a bachelorette party in a few weekends, and they're going to uh like a haunted house maze thing. And I'm like, uh no, I won't. First of all, I'm not gonna pay$60. Second of all,$60 for like$50 something dollars. But I'm like, nope. I said, I just I very much believe in spiritual warfare and angels and demons, and Satan will use that against me in my head.

SPEAKER_02:

Until one of them tries to scare you and they got like bad breath, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

I won't.

SPEAKER_02:

I remember one time I went to a scary, like a haunted house thing, and like this girl got up in my face, and I was like, you need gum.

SPEAKER_00:

Just go back through and give her a breath.

SPEAKER_02:

Like the scariest part about this is your breath. Well, that's literally what I told her. I was like, girl, you need gum.

SPEAKER_00:

You're like, wait, she's actually dead.

SPEAKER_03:

What if she was? That'd be so good.

SPEAKER_00:

That's what I'm saying. That's why your breath smells so bad.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, the only ones that I can do are the corn mazes where people like it's like jump stuff. Oh, dude, the corn mazes with the if they're gonna do like depictions of stuff, I can't. But I've worked at uh corn maze where all there was was like you just dress up and pop out. It was really fun.

SPEAKER_00:

I'll do a corn maze just to like walk through it.

SPEAKER_03:

But watch out for the melon beds. I feel like having a corn maze would be like the perfect thing to be a serial killer.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Nope.

SPEAKER_00:

So you're never going through a corn maze ever again now.

SPEAKER_03:

Maybe not in today's not in today's world. They'd be caught so fast, but like during their prime in like the 70s.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, there's still people that'll walk around in the clown costumes to scare people.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, the more they're just gonna get killed.

SPEAKER_02:

So you can't say that word.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep, it's okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Can't say assassinated either.

SPEAKER_03:

Dude, can't say that. Can't say me.

SPEAKER_00:

What do they say? Uh unalived.

SPEAKER_03:

Unalived.

SPEAKER_00:

Unalived. I hate that so much.

SPEAKER_03:

That's why I just don't censor because I don't care if YouTube doesn't pay me and they're not paying me anyway right now. So I just but if you think about it, if you were in YouTube shoes and you could get people to make videos, especially with tons of views, to get people on your platform and find out a way to not pay them, that'd be the way to do it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah. 100%. I would do it that way.

SPEAKER_03:

That's just that's just the but it is annoying to listen to with like essay for like sexual assault. They have to say like, then he got essayed and I'm like.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03:

Or they censor it and it's just annoying to listen to. You just gotta have the comedic beeping sound though, you know. Yeah, but that's also annoying after a while because they have to beep like every word. Yeah, why don't we gotta especially for like true crime?

SPEAKER_01:

We're doing demonetization maxing.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. My favorite one has been SpongeBob Maxing. Like somebody who works at their job happily and doesn't know anything. There's like a Gordon Ramsay video, and someone's like, bro, is Spongebob Maxing right now? That's awesome. Gen Z has the best lingo.

SPEAKER_02:

They do.

SPEAKER_00:

It's pretty fun.

SPEAKER_02:

I hate some of it though. Because I still I still can't get over the we were just talking about this the other day, the whole 6'7 thing. Oh my gosh. I don't know what that means. Apparently, it's just not a like so the way we were educated about it, it's like apparently it's like a basketball player or somebody, and that's like their height is six seven, but they just like the way they said it's a lot of things. It's just a non-comedic, comedic meme for the the the Gen Zers. It means nothing. Or is it Gen Alpha?

SPEAKER_01:

It means nothing. It means absolutely nothing.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, if you look up if you look up the term for 6'7 and why it's funny, they're like, oh, it's just a it means nothing, but it's funny.

SPEAKER_01:

Like uh in Friends when the guy goes, hey, or whatever.

SPEAKER_02:

It's like us, it's like us when we do our thing and then nobody knows what we're doing.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, but like Oh yeah, yeah, okay. I do know that. Yeah. So it's the same thing. Yeah. Just widespread.

SPEAKER_02:

But yeah, but they're just like, oh they they do it at my wife's school all the time because they're just like six seven, six, seven. And then when she's like counting numbers or whatever, and she like takes her she like takes a pause between six and seven so the kids don't notice it.

SPEAKER_01:

So it's if I were a teacher, I would be like five, six, seven, eight, nine, I would play it. Yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02:

There are moments where where my wife will try to say some of the things that the kids say, and they're like, no, you can't say that.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_02:

But she hates it, so she won't do it.

SPEAKER_03:

I could not be a teacher in today's. So kudos to her.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. She's she's doing the Lord's work, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

There's a crown in heaven specifically for teachers.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, they they work hard. And I know two of them, so it's like they both work really, really hard in that. And it's just an annoying area of work. I don't know how they do it.

SPEAKER_00:

My dad always said it's a calling. You don't just go into it for like for funsies.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

A calling that you're given.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

I feel like I could be a teacher for fun.

SPEAKER_00:

You'd be a fun substitute teacher, maybe. Uh-huh. Oh, dude, you could teach social studies.

SPEAKER_02:

Social studies. Like US history.

SPEAKER_03:

What is social studies? History.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yeah. I feel like social studies was history.

SPEAKER_03:

But why isn't it just called history?

SPEAKER_01:

Because they also teach you about like the government.

SPEAKER_02:

And socialism.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Then I could uh I could say the word Hitler and not get in trouble.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You could say assassination, not get in trouble.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, dude. Um, as fun fact, Nazi actually stands for National Socialism. So really isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_02:

So it is okay to play secret Hitler now.

SPEAKER_00:

Really crazy.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Huh. Good to know. So anyway, Signal the Sky's Band on Instagram and TikTok.

SPEAKER_04:

Thanks for tuning in.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, I want to get back to it a little bit because going back, we are planning to release an EP, I think. Oh, yeah. Hopefully by yeah. Hopefully by the end of the year. It's gonna have six songs. I almost went like this.

SPEAKER_04:

Six or seven.

SPEAKER_02:

Six and a half, actually, because we don't count the oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03:

Dude, name the EP six seven.

SPEAKER_02:

That'll be the next EP. The death of the death of six seven.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh, but I'm gonna be honest, I don't think it's gonna be out by the end of the year.

SPEAKER_02:

Probably not. Just the way we're we're working on it. Um, yeah, we're just trying to get everything done. I think we still need to like we need to fix vocals on one of them, and then we still need to put vocals on the other two. Um, we actually need to finish the lyrics for two of them still, or they're still in the writing process a little bit. Um, and then most importantly, obviously drums, and with drums comes the bass. So uh Jay, get on it, dude. He's so nervous, he doesn't want to talk. Just kidding. We miss you, Jay. Hopefully, hopefully when he hears this, he'll he'll be like, Yeah, dude, I got it. That's exactly what he would say. Yeah, but no, three more songs, and then yeah, just the interlude just for funsies, because I thought overall, um, it's obviously like the same instrumentation as lately, which is the song that just came out, what, two months ago now? Some some somewhere around.

SPEAKER_00:

When did that come out?

SPEAKER_02:

Wasn't that June?

SPEAKER_03:

It was June.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Because we took those pictures in June.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is like four months ago. Uh you know what's crazy is that like I made myself a goal because like last year, and this was before all of you guys like fully joined in. I was like, I'm just gonna put three songs out just cuz, and then three songs ended up becoming five, and then with those five, I already wrote like three other songs already, basically. And um, like the first single off of the EP, which was Escape, which is finally where kind of like introducing Breeze, now officially a huge part of the band with all the cool synth stuff that she wrote, and her little bit of vocals and stuff like that in that, and then kind of making her the frontman for these last two songs right now.

SPEAKER_00:

Which is crazy.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah, like a front woman. Sorry, front woman.

SPEAKER_03:

Front woman.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you, Caleb.

SPEAKER_03:

Thank you. I stand up for women feminism right here. Um also I think late or not lately, but leaving should be redone. You said that. I can't do the I can't do the auto-tune.

SPEAKER_02:

Like I when I listened to it, I was still not confident in my vocals yet. Like that was where I was like for the books.

SPEAKER_03:

For the books? I'm yeah. Let's do it, let's do it. Everything like and then what I played was just like wasn't good. Uh uh, because I was whatever reason, but that's when you were already planning to break up with me.

SPEAKER_02:

That's why. No, that wasn't a lot. I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_03:

Right after they took up I go through little slumps where I stop practicing and yeah. Well, you were focused on the podcast. If I don't practice, yeah. If I don't practice, then my skill goes out the window.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah. No, you were more focused on the podcast when I was like starting to really focus in on the music a lot more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, 2024 was actually a a really crazy year for for writing music because it was just for me, it was just non-stop. Um, and then I was just coming up with more and more ideas, and you know, like the only one I think that I didn't do a lot to was if I was happy. The if I was happy was actually like somebody else wrote it, and then they get like I bought it from them. And so, and then I just edited the guitars a little bit more and then it became what it was. So I cheated on that one. You did. I did. It's okay. That's why there's not another song like it though. But we have two songs with the same kind of drum intro, which is something Caleb pointed out, and I never noticed it until now. The blata blata, because if if I was happy and escape does that.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Whoopsies, that's okay.

SPEAKER_03:

We should just start every song with like that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I I I do like I don't know what it is about a snare flam, but I love a nice snare flam. If you don't know what that is, that's like an off it's like on beat, but with a slightly offbeat hit on the snare.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

The idea for the EP is like what five songs?

SPEAKER_02:

Six songs. Six and a half with that interliver.

SPEAKER_03:

And first it was three.

SPEAKER_02:

No, no, no. Um, no, going back to it, I last year when like leaving pneumonia, violet, um, if I was happy, and Alliance. Um, I was actually planning on putting Alliance out like this year, but I was just like, stuff happened, obviously, and I was like, you know what? I'm feeling a a little a little petty petty, and I was also feeling a little motivated, like, let's just put another song out. So I know, dude.

SPEAKER_03:

Petty will get you nowhere.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I know. But hey, a lot of people did like that song. A lot of people did like that one.

SPEAKER_00:

Got him a song.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and then uh uh I'll tell you what, I think that's when I finally like was able to find my actual clean vocals, like when I was singing on that one. Like my cleans are probably a lot better, but I like doing the see everything that I do for you, dude. Even even when you're gone, you still you still help me out. What a guy.

SPEAKER_03:

That's so nice.

SPEAKER_02:

Anyway, so yeah, my my goal for 2024 was just to put three songs out, and it was just gonna be leaving pneumonia and violet. And then yeah, I heard for the the instrumentation for if I was happy, and I was like, huh, that should be fun. And I think I worked on that one for like two or three months, and it was like, I don't know, I was I think I was in like a depressed era because obviously that song is pretty sad. Um for how for how happy it sounds like. If I was happy.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And so, and then yeah, and then stuff happened, and then I started writing this crazy, almost dissonant sounding guitar track, and then I sent it to Brie, and then I was like, oh man, this sounds cool. And then I started getting a little bit more intense with it. Like, that's when drop B was like really my favorite tuning then, too. So I was like, Yeah, let's do that. And then I made this weird, I think I got it from Sleep Token, which was that weird octave phasey sound for that little breakdown on Alliance, which by the way, you're gonna have to figure out how to do that. Being our new guitar player, Anna, you gotta you gotta figure out all my crazy tricks.

SPEAKER_01:

Um I did though, I figured out both parts at once.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. She sent a video, we'll I'll show it to you guys later, but she can play both guitar parts on leaving, no problem. Talented.

SPEAKER_00:

Like at the same time.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Double neck guitar?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. No, one neck. Oh. Four hands though.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, okay. And pose.

SPEAKER_02:

But yeah, so five songs ended up being what 2024 happened, and then I don't know. I obviously like mistakes and issues. That album type originally it was gonna be an album when we had Alec and Nathaniel being a part of it all.

SPEAKER_03:

It's that old.

SPEAKER_02:

It's that I that concept was is that old.

SPEAKER_03:

Whoa.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And so now it's it's it's coming into fruition, and I'm so super excited. And obviously, like this album just talks about pointing out the obviously is all the mistakes and issues that I myself have been dealing with, and I mean Brie kind of too. And I think when we look at it, like I think we've all dealt with similar situations that are gonna be talked about in this in this EP. So just the idea of like being reminiscent and being in the hurt and trying to figure out why we're hurt. So it's gonna be really, really cool.

SPEAKER_03:

All right, sweet. Well, we are at an hour, so I don't know. Does anybody else have anything that they want to mention?

unknown:

Nothing.

SPEAKER_03:

I'll take that as a no.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, signal the skies banned on TikTok, on Instagram, and uh for all the you know the unks out there, Facebook is just signal the skies, dude.

SPEAKER_03:

And then the single comes out October October 17th is the plan. So but it might be the twenty fourth.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, follow our pages and you you'll get to know everything.

SPEAKER_03:

All right, thanks everybody listening. Bye, love you.

SPEAKER_02:

Bye.