042: Three Guys in Red Flannels (One Grey) Solve the World's Problems

What happens when three friends with red flannels (well, one's wearing grey) sit down for an unfiltered conversation about everything that matters? This episode takes listeners on a journey through the most pressing questions of our time - from conspiracy theories to artificial intelligence, from immigration policy to the future of relationships.

The conversation opens with lighthearted banter before diving into conspiracy territory, examining why the Epstein files remain unreleased and what really happened with JFK. The hosts don't claim to have all the answers, but they're asking questions that deserve attention. Their authentic discussion about presidential security and assassination attempts reveals concerns about governmental transparency that cross political lines.

As the conversation shifts to immigration, the nuance becomes apparent. Rather than taking hardline partisan positions, the hosts explore the genuine complexities of both legal and illegal immigration - examining economic impacts, housing challenges, and the human element that often gets lost in political debates. Their personal stories about winter driving in Michigan provide a welcome moment of relatability before tackling perhaps the most consequential topic of our time: artificial intelligence.

The hosts paint a vivid picture of a future where automation transforms everything from gas stations to driving, raising profound questions about employment and purpose in the coming decades. Their discussion of relationships and dating apps illuminates how technology has fundamentally altered human connection, while their exploration of marriage, divorce, and gender dynamics offers insights that both traditional and progressive listeners will find thought-provoking.

Whether you're concerned about the march of technology, frustrated with modern dating, or simply looking for an honest conversation that doesn't follow predictable partisan scripts, this episode delivers. Join us for a refreshingly authentic discussion that might just change how you see the world around you.

Transcript

Episode Introduction & Soundboard Fun

Speaker 1 0:03

Oh, mine is way too loud.

Speaker 2 0:12

I didn't even know he did that. I like to drink Arizona tea sometimes.

Speaker 4 0:20

Weren't expecting that.

Speaker 2 0:22

No, it wasn't. I was like who is that?

Speaker 1 0:28

Wait, was that a pre-recording?

Speaker 2 0:30

oh my gosh. Yeah, can you turn my?

Speaker 1 0:33

my these down.

Speaker 4 0:34

It's really he's like he's a guy like is it moving?

Speaker 1 0:38

you turn mine down oh, okay, so it is his.

Speaker 4 0:41

Uh, so yeah, there you go yeah, is that good now, it's way too low. How much do you want?

Speaker 1 0:46

A little bit higher.

Speaker 4 0:48

Dude, it's like right where it was. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 0:50

It's right there.

Speaker 2 0:52

Just turn it down, the guy that he did the sound clip from is a guy who like so, when Overwatch was like a really huge game, he would be like maybe I want to be Tracer, I want to be, Tracer. I want to be Tracer. I want to be Winston. I'm already Winston.

Speaker 4 1:07

Yeah, it's called Shy and Awkward Guy and he makes the most. He's gross.

Speaker 3 1:11

Are you allowed to?

Speaker 1 1:12

copyright for that.

Speaker 3 1:14

Yeah, you can use clips. Yeah, you can use clips.

Speaker 4 1:16

I'm not using an actual video clip from like. It's not going to be on video.

Speaker 2 1:21

Yeah, right, so I can use the sound for that. Or like if he was like playing like a Nickelback song, like Nickelback's not going to be like oh, copyright.

Speaker 4 1:28

Yeah, I think you can play up to six seconds.

Speaker 2 1:30

Yeah, and then they like fly it.

Speaker 4 1:32

Oh, that's true, I've been using the soundboard back then for years. He never asked that.

Speaker 2 1:36

He's got Tom and Jerry.

Speaker 1 1:38

Everything was from something. I thought.

Speaker 4 1:40

Some of those were the preset ones, Some of them but a lot of them like who Cares and stuff wasn't that was all stuff from other things.

Speaker 2 1:48

I'm going to copyright my cough, so as long as it's under five seconds, we can use it.

Speaker 1 1:52

Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 4 1:57

Why is it so?

Speaker 2 1:58

quiet. That was my cough Like back in the day I didn't cough exactly like that, but my cough is more or less the same sounding every time, regardless of how harsh it is.

Speaker 4 2:13

Yeah, that was me editing it to make it sound funny.

Speaker 2 2:15

It was like a censor when swearing used to be a thing.

Speaker 3 2:21

Who's that clown?

Speaker 4 2:23

Yeah, it was real funny. So, caleb, tell us why we're here today I think you all know yeah, the red final boys podcast which by the way I heard like I forgot mine at work, so I'm wearing gray and white that's right, the right I did make up for the red table the red table works so yeah, you are forgiven my child, thank you so I think if I change the settings to black and white, we'll all blend in, you're right, there we go problem solved so I thought we're talking about trump

Conspiracies: Epstein Files & JFK Theories

Speaker 4 3:01

no oh that's a perfect thing. What about the epstein files?

Speaker 1 3:05

you guys think that's weird uh I wait, did they come out with them, did they? No, they didn't.

Speaker 2 3:09

That's the thing, is all like yeah because they were saying that they were going to release the files. Then, all of a sudden, it's like been what? Like seven, eight months and nothing's happened yeah.

Speaker 4 3:18

Well, now they say that they don't. They don't exist, yeah, right, so somebody burned them. The big speculation is that Trump is on a list.

Speaker 2 3:26

Well, here's the thing with that too is like sure that could be a definite thing. I mean because if you're not on the list, you don't really. It's like any kind of situation at that point. You're like if you don't have anything to hide then, or if you're not guilty of anything, you don't have anything to hide at that point. You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 3:42

Yeah.

Speaker 2 3:43

But also, too, it's like he also said he was going to release the JFK files and the Martin Luther King ones, which I think he did. Did he? Yeah, martin Luther King ones? Yeah, the Martin Luther King he was? Basically it sounds bad, but like, from what I read up on, is that Martin Luther King was actually like P. Did he like he was doing all that stuff that did he was doing? Um, and a lot of people were like so he's not like this, like I have a saint, he's not he's not a saint like we thought he was.

Speaker 2 4:12

Yeah, but he has a dream, so yeah, well, he had a dream, but um, no, he yeah. So he's not like as much of a saint as people made him out to be. And then the j JFK files that was 100% CIA, that was 100% the government.

Speaker 1 4:29

And it came out.

Speaker 4 4:31

Yeah, because who puts a president in an open car down the street? Even back then it was just dumb. Well, back then too.

Speaker 2 4:39

It was dumb. But back then, compared to now, there probably wasn't a whole lot to worry about, like even to like, yeah, just a president getting shot in the back of the. Well, I mean other than that, but like so, like, okay, for any like. Obviously this is a huge time gap, but like I remember growing up as a kid, like my dad, when, like my parents split and he lived in his place and my mom lived in hers, like my dad would be able to leave his car windows completely down. We could leave the the screen door open, like when it was a hot summer day so we could get like fresh air in the windows open with the screens. We wouldn't have to worry about anybody like trying to break in or do anything or steal anything. But nowadays you have to almost have like three dead bolts on your door and lock on your car windows, so you're saying that it was safer.

Speaker 2 5:28

It was more or less, but it was probably, as far as I think, probably less. I mean, it was still violent back then, but you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 5:38

Yeah, it was definitely less crime amongst the common man. But if you think about. Abrahamraham lincoln was assassinated, and that was a hundred years before jfk that's true so I think like for the common man. Yes, it's gotten more dangerous for us and it was a lot safer back then yeah, but still to have an open, open car for a president. I mean he was sitting on on like the back of a convertible, basically yeah, and then.

Speaker 2 6:03

Yeah, that all happened, and then his wife too. You know what the other weird part is too. What's your hot?

Speaker 4 6:08

take real quick.

Speaker 3 6:11

You just cut him off.

Speaker 2 6:12

I'm just like, yep, I'm here. No, the last thing that I'll say about the JFK thing on my end is then his wife has the coat that she wore that day, where it has his remains on him, and she's made it be announced like in the next hundred years or something like that, or like by 2092, that you like, it's going to be unveiled to the public, her coat with her husband's uh remains and stuff like that on there, which is like I know it's weird, but like they also and 2092?.

Speaker 1 6:47

Yeah, like it's same thing with like there's going to be nothing left of the remains. It's same thing with like the Queen Elizabeth too.

Speaker 2 6:52

She has a note for like in Sydney, I think, where they're not allowed to open it until like 100 years after her death, or something like that. So, whatever, the important message is that she has to share in the envelope. We don't know and we'll never know, because we'll all be dead at that point. I don't think we're going to have any technological advances in the next 100 years. It's going to let us live longer.

Speaker 1 7:14

Yeah, it's already been what? 46 years or something.

Speaker 2 7:16

Since Queen Elizabeth.

Speaker 3 7:19

No.

Speaker 2 7:20

Oh, I was like there ain't no way. I was like she died. Like what? Maybe a year or two ago, I think oh her.

Speaker 1 7:27

I think it was RFK. No, no, no no JFK, jfk. Wrong guy again.

Speaker 4 7:32

And I think it happened. Wasn't he president in, like the 60s, rfk, jfk?

Speaker 2 7:37

Oh yeah, jfk. Yeah, he mentioned.

Speaker 4 7:40

RFK.

Speaker 1 7:41

Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 7:42

Was it 69? Did he die 64,?

Speaker 1 7:45

I think, but anyways I haven't seen a president ride in the back of a car since then. No, that's a big change. You can't even do it.

Speaker 2 7:55

The cars are a lot more advanced too. They have it where if a bomb goes off, pretty much, then they have some kind of cage thing for underneath where it rolls.

Speaker 4 8:06

Now they try to hit them from the stage.

Speaker 2 8:09

Yeah.

Speaker 1 8:10

I think, if they're going to whack a president, they would just do it regardless, Even if he didn't die, like at that point like in the parade thing, so you don't think it was the government. No, I think it was, but I think, even if, like he missed, let's just say yeah I think regardless, within like a month or two they probably would have probably killed him. Yeah, back in back in 64 well, even, or whatever yeah even the running opposer knowledgeable

Speaker 2 8:39

guys, I forget the guy's name, but the running opposer for j for JFK is the one who set it up. Pretty much he's the one that they found out that he set up the whole thing for the assassination so he could win the following party for getting JFK out of office, because I guess JFK had a lot of plans to help America.

Speaker 4 8:59

Which is very anti-Democrat, and he ran as a.

Speaker 2 9:02

Democrat Right and he ran as a Democrat and then all of a sudden, like he just gets assassinated on a parade, like conveniently, and then they blame uh what? Lee harvey oswald yeah they blamed him for it, and then here it is finding out like well over 40, 50 plus years later, it's really the government that did it yeah, do you think that they're gonna try to assassinate trump again because he is doing kind of the same stuff that he was doing?

Speaker 2 9:32

that rfk was or jfk my goodness man you gotta get the names right well, as long as there's not a simpsons episode that says he's gonna get assassinated at this point, then just because, like he's taking a lot of the government stuff and he's going against the fbi, he wants to shut him down.

Speaker 4 9:48

He's essentially at least claiming to be for the people right, right, right, yeah, yeah, which the government hates I mean, let's just be honest, yeah yeah, because everybody's right.

Speaker 2 9:59

Nowadays you got to have three jobs just to maintain like a home, you know, and that's for both people. You got to have three jobs to make a stable income and whatever. Unless you're, you know, like bruce lee or some kind of hollywood star, that's just got millions. But then you got it too, where even everything is, the taxes are going up on crap and you even have it too. We're like even groceries, like with it. It sounds dumb, because this has been a thing that I've heard from liberal people that I work with at my store is that they're like well, how come the egg prices doesn't drop down?

Speaker 1 10:29

and it's like but yeah, it takes time to do that.

Speaker 4 10:32

Yeah, it takes time, it's not gonna happen they're not like five bucks anymore, at least not where I shot gas prices were what?

Speaker 1 10:38

three high three hundreds.

Trump Assassination Attempts & Security

Speaker 2 10:41

When biden was in, they were, I think it was over $4 with Biden in office, the highest I remember seeing is like $425 or $430 something, but now it's like $340 today.

Speaker 1 10:53

But do you think the government is going to kill him?

Speaker 2 10:56

No, I think they're going to try. They might try, but I don't think they're going to actually successfully.

Speaker 3 11:01

Well, yeah, I mean they already failed twice. I guess they failed twice Well, yeah.

Speaker 2 11:04

I mean they already failed twice. I guess they failed twice.

Speaker 1 11:06

So I mean like, but now he's standing president, Maybe it makes it harder once he's standing president too.

Speaker 2 11:10

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 11:11

Like compared to.

Speaker 4 11:12

Well, like the whole Pennsylvania, one was obvious setup, but what was the other one? I don't remember. There's another one.

Speaker 1 11:19

I think they stopped it before it happened.

Speaker 2 11:28

Yeah, it was another one that it was a golf course one, where he was like on the golf course and the guy was like hiding in the bushes or something.

Speaker 4 11:31

I think so I want to. I want to say yeah. And who stops it like? Who's all involved? Do you think like?

Speaker 1 11:33

the secret police or whatever find him.

Speaker 4 11:36

You know, yeah, they got it they obviously have to have the area swept beforehand right, but if the government is trying to kill him, yeah, wouldn't they tell police to kind of go their different routes?

Speaker 1 11:48

and stay away from this area I don't know if they. I don't know if they can tell local police to do that. They can, because they have higher jurisdiction over your state trooper, even at that point yeah, but that would be so weird if you came to the police and like, hey, we're not doing that. Well, yeah, two different. But that would be so weird if you came to the police and were like, hey, we're not doing that.

Speaker 3 12:06

They're two different functions.

Speaker 1 12:09

It would be way weird, dude.

Speaker 4 12:12

Do you think the Secret Service is in on it?

Speaker 3 12:15

Yeah.

Speaker 4 12:17

Do you think?

Speaker 3 12:18

the Secret Service. I think the men in black are in it.

Speaker 4 12:21

They do that camera thing, so we forget, do that camera things, we forget.

Speaker 1 12:25

I mean we are seeing flying things in the air yeah, that stuff's been weird lately.

Speaker 4 12:29

Yeah, but before we go, sorry do you think that the secret service people at pennsylvania knew that that guy was on the roof and that that was going to happen, or do you think they don't know either? And then all of a sudden, when it happens, they're like oh, we have to act I think people.

Speaker 1 12:46

I think people think that the police or secret service is like really, really good. When I think accidents like that happen all the time, I think they're really. I mean, if you're in the military you're like, yeah, they're so dysfunctional, like I get it from that side yeah, you know so I think it was just a mistake. I don't. I don't think it was like they were in on it.

Speaker 2 13:05

Okay, but my only thing is is how do you not see somebody? I mean, there were civilians that noticed a guy climbing the roof before anybody else in that area.

Speaker 4 13:15

And having like a range finder.

Speaker 2 13:17

Right. So I'm like, how do you not notice that if you're part of the Secret Service or FBI, whoever else I thought?

Speaker 1 13:22

there was a cop that was trying to follow him up Literally. Then he had to get off the roof because he saw that he had a gun.

Speaker 3 13:28

Yeah but why not? Report it, I mean it happened too fast.

Speaker 1 13:33

He saw him and then it was like oh and then he was shooting.

Speaker 4 13:35

Maybe that's why he missed, because the kid saw him, the cop trying to get up.

Speaker 1 13:42

Yeah, then he had to go quick.

Speaker 4 13:43

Yeah, I don't have.

Speaker 2 13:44

yeah, but then also too, it's like how do you sneak a gun like that, a rifle that big, into a president? Dude, when even John went to the Trump rally downtown, they checked us, they had the whole metal detectors, they patted us down everything and I had to take off my necklace, my watch, my belt, everything yeah, but this kid wasn't in the rally.

Speaker 4 14:07

He was outside of it on a roof.

Speaker 2 14:09

Yeah, but even even then to the secret service and everybody. They have a certain parameter that they observe and they're supposed to be like a hundred percent watch, because and you, you could even be like three miles away somebody could have like a scope guitar case, something like that, some kind of case like at the same time, yeah, like that's how I thought about bringing a gun in here. Oh my god well, I can have a gun in my apartment, but I don't want to be walking the halls with a shotgun that's america.

Speaker 1 14:39

Well, actually, technically you can, because it's an open carry state. You could if you want.

Speaker 2 14:42

It is an open carry. You could walk around people.

Speaker 1 14:44

Be welcome to a shotgun no, you'd probably get the police called on you.

Speaker 2 14:48

But then you'd be like it's an open carry and I have open carry I can do this yeah I mean I have my pistol, but you know I'm I mean I don't have a holster for it, but I'm not gonna go flashing it around, yeah I'd rather get my cpl and then call it a day, and that way nobody knows.

Speaker 1 15:03

But and I think, like crowds are so easy to get stuff in, Like I don't know, like just walking through with crowds it's hard to like check everybody. Like you ever sneak something into, like I don't know, a ice hockey game or?

Speaker 4 15:19

you know, like a beer or something like that, I don't know. Yeah, but that's a little different than a presidential rally.

Speaker 2 15:23

Yeah, like you have a hockey versus like basically the ruler of our country.

Speaker 4 15:29

At that point I guess you could call it. There's not many people who want to assassinate hockey players.

Speaker 1 15:37

It's true.

Speaker 4 15:39

There's probably quite a few who want to assassinate.

Speaker 1 15:41

But if he was like Jason Bour born, jumping from rooftop to rooftop.

Speaker 2 15:46

That was jason bowen oh, that's crazy yeah, but that in that whole case too, the there were civilians that pointed it out for the cops to go notice, and then again there was like the secret service and everybody else there too. So it's like, how do you?

Speaker 1 16:02

I don't think I don't think everybody went through a metal detector there, to be honest. No, it would be like one that we have outside at rose parks, like they might barrier off the road, but like people can sneak through. Yeah, they get through.

Speaker 2 16:14

Yeah, they could it's just again, though the secret service obviously was not doing their job then at that point, for like guarding the parameter no, they're terrible.

Speaker 1 16:22

Yeah, they were bad yeah, but then even too even bad.

Speaker 2 16:26

Even when they were with biden they had that guy surrounded like 24 7 and nothing ever happened with him for an assassination attempt I thought when they'd give speeches they have those like glass up like the poet proof they do, and you know I think, it's just like if the president wants it, kind of thing. But I know they put the next time that he did a speech they put one in front of him but he walked around it because he's like, I'm not scared.

Speaker 2 16:52

Yeah, like he had a bullet graze his ear and all that other crap and whatnot, but he's not scared yeah he doesn't need that at that point and he knows that at this point, if somebody's going to do it, then it's a hundred percent the government just purposely trying to kill him at that point. You know what I mean. If, if he can walk it, because if he was staying behind there at that point, then yeah, you're not really going to get an assassination attempt, but if you're, you already been shot once you walk around there, your secret service better be on your butt on that crap, because if it's not, then it's definitely all planned out at that point, because you're just letting it happen the leader of secret service, whatever her name was yeah, she acted like she got fired yeah so she just didn't care that trump was nearly assassinated yeah, yeah, it's funny, that happened a year ago.

Speaker 4 17:44

I know that was almost exact, because it's is it July 15th? When is July 15th 13th? Oh so two days. Two days from now.

Speaker 2 17:51

You know the funny I have the yesterday. I have a shirt from the Trump rally that I got. I actually met his parents in line at the Trump rally.

Speaker 4 17:57

I thought you were talking about Trump's parents at first.

Speaker 2 17:59

No, dang, dude and uh, I have it shows trump like holding up his fist after he just got shot and the secret service is trying to pin him down and it says fight, fight, fight. I'm like dude, that is such a cool picture, that's like out of all the like presidential, like pictures and stuff that has happened next to joe biden not being able to walk up the stairs like the one with trump holding his fist after just getting shot, saying fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.

Speaker 4 18:24

I want a shirt with Biden trying to walk up the stairs. Dude, it's hilarious, he's just falling over.

Speaker 2 18:30

They have it where he. So they have a video that somebody did where it's like Trump is golfing and the golf balls are hitting Biden as he's walking up the stairs, and that's the reason why he was tripping. It's just a constant loop of Trump just hitting the golf balls at him.

Speaker 3 18:46

It's hilarious Anyway we're going to move on. This is pretty funny.

Speaker 4 18:54

Speaking of Democrat. You said the other day that you think that they're more educated.

Speaker 1 18:59

Yeah, I do think they are more educated, but sometimes they just do more.

Speaker 4 19:03

First point is how dare you? And then, second of all, I think there's more that go to college than republicans, I guess.

Speaker 3 19:09

Yeah, I'll agree, it's more like that.

Speaker 1 19:11

I don't necessarily mean they're like smarter, but they're more educated in school but if you look at charlie kirk, what is kirkman though?

Speaker 2 19:20

charlie kirk yeah, charlie kirk, if you've seen some of the interviews he has with liberals, they can never back up their data.

Speaker 4 19:28

Yeah, well, I also think that he probably picks the ones that lose. I'm sure there's some that come in there that really challenge him and he doesn't show those on youtube right.

Speaker 2 19:38

So yeah, it's kind of like a one. It's a one-sided view that we're getting.

Speaker 4 19:42

I can, I can see that because I've had debates with liberals who would beat me in an argument yeah because they they can back up what's going on, and I think that a lot of the times, they actually know what's better for the country, but it is more based on feeling.

Speaker 1 19:59

Yeah, like they know or when it's played out like it does, it doesn't work doesn't work the way they want it to.

Speaker 4 20:04

Right, Like they think that it's super nice to let tons of people come in the border and it's like in a perfect world. That's great, you have a huge heart but that doesn't work in a huge country of millions of people.

Speaker 2 20:17

No, and especially when, even, too, they've even proven that, like most of them come in because they're like some of them are criminals. But yeah, you get the ones that want to be citizens and whatnot, that's fine. I respect those ones that want to come in and actually be a US citizen, but the thing is, too, is you have to look at the rest of the world too. I can't just go to Japan and be like, hey, what's up, konnichiwa, you know, and get a free citizenship, illegally or whatever. At that point I have to go through custom, I have to get my card to be an official japanese citizen and it's very hard to become.

Speaker 2 20:52

It is citizen in japan it is and it's like, and people are like well, it's so hard to become a us citizen. I said it's hard everywhere. You can literally go to any place on the in the world and try to get a citizenship there Russia, china, united Kingdom, whatever.

Speaker 1 21:07

Except for Mexico. It's easy to get one there. They want you Apparently it's not easy.

Speaker 4 21:13

It's actually harder than America, and they're having protests there right now telling us, as tourists, to go.

Immigration Debate: Legal vs Illegal

Speaker 2 21:20

And I mean at this point if it's going to be that much of a conflict, then it's like okay. I would just be like hey, we're not going to go to Mexico. At that point, you know. And then you know, whoever the illegals, just need to be sent back. And then, yeah, I understand that there is a process, but they need to do that. I mean for us being naturally born, citizens.

Speaker 2 21:47

I understand that the country was built on immigration and whatnot, which know is a good thing, but there's a process to it too. Yeah, there's all a process, and if you're gonna just skip corners just to be, hey, what's up, like I. There are people that I know that are illegal, that I just found out about recently. But I'm like are you trying?

Speaker 1 22:00

to get legal or illegally illegally.

Speaker 2 22:01

and I and they were like, uh, well, we're trying to get your illegal or illegally, illegally. And I and they were like, well, we're trying to right now, get the process done, like they've been trying to get the process done. So it's not like they're just, hey, I'm illegal and I'm not planning on getting my us citizenship. It's, they're in the process of it. They're just here illegally right now, technically speaking.

Speaker 1 22:18

So I'm like, oh, how do they make money? I think is it like the farmers.

Speaker 4 22:22

There's a lot of places that are willing to pay them low wages under the table, yeah.

Speaker 2 22:27

I think so too, like the farmers like picking blueberries or strawberries or whatever, even like janitorial stuff like that, the only thing I don't care for is the fact, too, that they don't have to pay taxes on crap, because the US citizens have to pay taxes on everything.

Speaker 4 22:44

Yeah.

Speaker 2 22:45

But they come in here illegally and yeah, they're getting a lower wage than most people, sure, but they don't have to pay taxes. And I'm like, I feel like, if you're here illegally or until that process of a United States citizen.

Speaker 1 22:58

What taxes are they going to? Oh, I mean, I guess they're paid wages, right, and then they also get free schooling and all this other crap too, and it's like dude, they're cool.

Speaker 3 23:09

Or they get a really good discount.

Speaker 1 23:11

I don't think they're having kids come do this, no, what I was going to say. I don't think they're paying housing either, because they're paying for their housing.

Speaker 2 23:16

Yeah, they're paying for their housing.

Speaker 1 23:18

So I've delivered to some of their housing places. Dude, they're so run down I'm like these should be foreclosed.

Speaker 4 23:24

Yeah, they're literal fixer-uppers.

Speaker 1 23:26

They're so bad.

Speaker 4 23:28

What? The immigrant homes? Yeah, yeah, they're bad.

Speaker 2 23:30

Yeah, they're like apartments and they're like Like you know, the city of Detroit, that one city where it's just like a deserted town, it's like pretty much like that, but like 10 times worse.

Speaker 1 23:45

Yeah, I drive to Detroit for work for sometimes, yeah, it's bad Like and a lot of people are living there.

Speaker 2 23:47

Yeah, Like houses could be falling down and they're just like, yeah, well, this is our place to stay. Yeah, and I get it. It's rough everywhere, you got it.

Speaker 1 23:53

It's probably for you free.

Speaker 2 23:55

Well, yeah, the farmer's paying.

Speaker 1 23:59

it just be a rundown and maybe that's why they're paying so low too, because they're like well, we're taking money out for your actual to stay here too.

Speaker 2 24:08

Yeah, you know I just feel like again, for me it's like okay, you're letting them get away with, like it's like the oj simpson case, you're letting them get away with murder at this point to a degree yeah, but I think they've done it for so.

Speaker 1 24:19

I think farmers have done it for so long, yeah, that I don't think like I don't know, I wouldn't go do it, right, right, or I would have to get paid a lot more, and they're like, well, we can't because I can't afford it you know, to be honest, that is a valid argument too, because it's like, yeah, I'm not gonna go pick up pig poop off the farm, or I'm not gonna go like pluck corn at like 3 am you know, all I'm saying is this like does help our economy? Yeah it does.

Speaker 2 24:45

And I'm not saying I'm totally like a hundred percent against the fact that there are people here wanting to do better, because I'm sure in mexico it's probably worse off than it is here in america and whatnot, because they have their own depending on the place depending on the place. Yeah, and you know. Yeah, you want to come to a better place. Sure, yeah. But there's a process still to do that with and if you want to start out doing that kind of stuff, you know that's great. It does help us out big time.

Speaker 1 25:12

Well, I think that they want to get their. American citizenship, because then they can get paid more at a higher-end job. That's what I think. So I think it does motivate them to actually become citizens.

Speaker 2 25:25

And that's the thing is that I'm I'm personally all for that. I'm all for. If they want to, if they have the mindset that they want to be a U S citizen, cool Welcome. I will welcome you in. I'll, you know, whatever I'll, I'll say hey down the road, whatever, help you out later. But if you're just coming in here, you have no plans being a us citizen and you're just hoping that you're going to get more money or you're going to start, like some of them will do drug cartels and they'll do prostitution, whatever. Like, sorry, like go.

Speaker 1 25:57

Do you think the amount of people should go up? For how many we're letting in, even illegally? Or we through a legally like, the number should go up like I don't know like I don't even know what it's?

Speaker 4 26:11

no, no, how many people were letting in like so we should let more people in legally than we were right, because I think it's just so like we don't let in enough yeah, but we already have enough on our plate on top of the fact that we have the housing markets crashed, rents high everywhere you go.

Speaker 2 26:31

Groceries are still high.

Speaker 4 26:32

Gas is still high but then we have to figure out a way to keep up, yeah you would have to, you would have to balance it out.

Speaker 1 26:38

There has to be balance and I don't think that's something. That's the reason, because we don't have enough food for them.

Speaker 2 26:43

Well, not just food, it's just.

Speaker 4 26:45

I'm saying, that's what I that's what I would be worried about.

Speaker 1 26:48

The thing is, I think there's so much fricking food.

Speaker 4 26:51

It's not necessarily food, but rent is already like so high. I remember even before COVID it was like a two bedroom at Ramble would be $800.

Speaker 1 27:01

You have now, it would be $800. But why would the rent would go up because you have more people. Yeah because, demand.

Speaker 2 27:06

Demand, and that's the thing too.

Speaker 4 27:09

I mean, look at the housing market right now. I mean, that's what supply and demand is, isn't it?

Speaker 2 27:11

My brother bought his house for like $170,000, and because the housing market is in such high demand, they're raising the prices of houses. Now he could sell his house for almost $300,000, and it's a run. It's not a rundown house, but it's pretty. He's got a lot of work to do on it.

Speaker 4 27:27

Yeah. At the same time, I do think that it would help the economy. It would, because more people are going to need cars. And as someone who works in the automotive industry, that would be good for us because we'd have to wait.

Speaker 2 27:40

What do you do in the automotive industry?

Speaker 4 27:43

You didn't know that I've been working in the automotive industry for like six years.

Speaker 2 27:46

I know you weld but I don't know what you weld exactly. There's a bunch of things.

Speaker 4 27:50

We make gauges, so I make the carts and the bases that the gauge goes on.

Speaker 3 27:55

Oh, okay, and the?

Speaker 4 27:56

gauge is something that they put their car part on to make sure that it lines up.

Speaker 1 28:01

Oh.

Speaker 4 28:02

It's like the step before tool and die.

Speaker 2 28:05

Okay, I'm sitting here wondering because I'm literally thinking like you're.

Speaker 4 28:09

maybe you're welding like body panels of certain things or different machinery no, we make the gauges that hold those okay so they'll put their part on, make sure it lines up and then, if it does and it's intolerance, then the part can go on the car okay, I didn't know that crap.

Speaker 2 28:22

I'm sitting here selling and stocking automotive parts and he's making the step before that.

Speaker 1 28:27

I'm like crap several steps several steps I think it's crazy, though, on that point, that, uh, that like china has made like a lot of housing and they don't have the people to put on in it well, the birth rate is also very low too we have the opposite problem. We have the people that want to come here. We don't have the infrastructure to hold that many people like let's just build it. I don't know but we also.

Speaker 4 28:51

I'm saying we're going to build houses we also to have I think that would help make rent go down if we had more, if there was more apartments and houses, then people would try to be like, hey, we need the better price because them over there they're cheaper than here and people are going to be going there. If we don't change something, we're going out of business yeah, sadly.

Speaker 1 29:07

What will help rent go down is the baby boomers dying well, yeah, there's right now just kidding because, like they own most of the houses, like the higher end houses, so if they die, then demand like there'd be so many houses available but nobody's buying them because they can't afford them.

Speaker 2 29:27

Japan right now. If you want to be like a Japanese citizen they said for, like, I think, a year or two, three years you can get free housing and stuff. It's just out in the country because they don't have anybody that live out there, so there's just like housing and stuff that's just gone to waste.

Speaker 4 29:49

I would live out in the countryside in Japan.

Speaker 2 29:51

The houses, though, when they show you them and stuff like on interviews and whatnot. The houses aren't even that bad in condition. They look like they're brand spanking new.

Speaker 4 29:58

You can give me a hot. If it's in the countryside of Japan, I'm going.

Speaker 2 30:01

I'm like that's just. The thing is like it looks really nice and it's like for free for like the first year to three years that you're living there. But obviously you have to be in that process. You can't just leave after a year and call it a day like you have to be trying to get your japanese citizenship with starlink you could totally do that and work remotely yeah see I'm saying make good money, not japan.

Speaker 1 30:25

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I want to know about this whole.

Speaker 4 30:28

Starlink thing Yen Make, yen, make, yen Isn't that what their money is called?

Speaker 1 30:32

Yeah, it's yen. Is that rice down there, yen?

Speaker 4 30:36

No, yen is their currency.

Speaker 2 30:38

Yeah, in the United Kingdom they're called Looney Tunes, or no, that's Canada.

Speaker 3 30:48

Canada. They coins looney tunes really. Yeah, no way.

Speaker 2 30:49

Yeah, they're called looney tunes. Uh, you gotta google this pounds. Yeah, uk is pounds. That's what I was thinking. And then I think same thing with ireland too is like that's also pound. Um, yeah, it's. It's weird, the currency and whatnot. I don't know what it is for, like germany or russia or anything like that, but I mean you know, I think australians go by. I don't know if they go by.

Speaker 4 31:09

They might go by Like pounds or something like that too, australia.

Speaker 2 31:14

Australia, australia, they go by Steve Irwin's.

Speaker 4 31:18

I don't know, not anymore, stefan.

Speaker 3 31:22

Yeah, I said that, stefan. Yeah, I said that.

Speaker 2 31:29

Those little colorful rave buttons right there on that sound bar. You know what he's looking for. Yeah, I'm looking for something Ba-ding Ba-ding Gosh. No, I think that would be a good thing, though, is with them building houses. I mean, heck, you got the Amish, though, that build a barn in like a day.

Speaker 4 31:47

Yeah but that's a barn, it's not a house.

Speaker 1 31:49

Why don't we just do barn houses, then Barn dominiums? Yeah, I could do that too, you know Michigan it's really hard. You can't do it in Michigan. You can't why? Because they well to build a house they want you to build with a basement. Well, barn dominiums don't have a basement, so you have to fund it yourself. They won't give out a loan unless you have a basement for draining reasons.

Speaker 4 32:12

Why does Michigan need basements?

Speaker 1 32:15

I think for draining reasons. I think If you go to Oklahoma, and Kansas.

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Speaker 4 32:19

They don't have a lot of basements there and they're the people that need them with Tornado Alley.

Speaker 2 32:23

Yeah, no kidding.

Speaker 4 32:24

Yeah, but Michigan is like.

Speaker 2 32:26

We don't really have tornadoes or floods, or I don't understand why we have basements in michigan I don't know.

Speaker 1 32:31

That's a good question. Should I look it up?

Speaker 2 32:33

yeah I mean really again, while you're looking it up the funny thing is, you would think we'd have more floods because we're literally surrounded by water. Yes, but we don't, and we don't have tornadoes that often.

Speaker 4 32:45

Because the water keeps it generally cooler and there's like no hurricanes or anything like that going on.

Speaker 2 32:51

Obviously we're not Florida, that's. The other thing, too is like yeah, we have pretty extreme temperatures.

Speaker 4 32:56

Yeah, like we have, because it gets up to 90 in here. Yeah, and it's humid.

Speaker 2 33:01

You know what's funny? I feel like there's a huge difference from like 90 degrees like 10 years ago and 90 degrees today, like so it's because we were kids, right? Well, we were kids but we also didn't have this much humidity yeah, the humidity is bad the humidity was is really bad and it's increased, I believe, like a lot since like even the last five years, we're surrounded by water yeah, so that doesn't help with humidity no, it doesn't it's, but then in the winter it gets into the negatives.

Speaker 4 33:31

Yeah, so it's like. There was one day it was like.

Speaker 1 33:33

I always thought that was weird uh, so it's like the soil condition in climate, specifically the frost. I yeah, I don't know, it seems, seems weird. That sounds terrible, like what I said, but that's what it says?

Speaker 4 33:49

If that's what it says.

Speaker 1 33:51

Frost line to prevent frost heave. So it's frost, I don't know. I think it's because we're in a colder climate, essentially, and the ground is very wet, but that doesn't really make sense. Why not just make a regular? Sorry, I cut you guys off sense. Why not just make a regular?

Speaker 4 34:09

sorry, I cut you guys off. No, we were just. We were waiting for the answer anyway, but I'd say that to say I would definitely live in a barn dominium.

Speaker 2 34:17

Yeah, barn dominiums, they're really nice. Annika is trying to and Caleb, uh, her fiance, almost husband is going to be. Uh, almost husband is going to be.

Speaker 3 34:28

uh, they're trying to build a barn to Minium and I think okay man, that one's an old one.

Speaker 2 34:32

Um there, I think they said like it's going to cost over 400,000 plus dollars for what they want.

Speaker 2 34:38

And I'm like my sister lives a bougie life too. That's the sad part, but I mean good for her. I guess she and him got money and yeah, but they're looking at a plot of land to build it on and I don't know when they're going to have it done. But Caleb knows construction and he has a crew that can help out and everything else. And then I don't know if she knows anybody, but she can probably do like the interior crap.

Speaker 4 35:03

See, I wouldn't need anything big, I would just want land and then something to live in.

Speaker 2 35:07

Right, like that's all you need. I mean, I'm tired of the city. The city is just stupid. And then screw the city.

Speaker 4 35:14

One thing it's funny because the traffic here isn't really as bad as compared to somewhere else, but it's still. I hate it.

Speaker 2 35:20

Alpine's disgusting, no matter what, so is 28th Street. Yeah.

Speaker 4 35:30

Every red light you get hit, yep, and it's like so people just stare at it.

Speaker 2 35:32

When it turns green and when they finally start going, it turns red again, right, yeah, I think that's a michigan thing, also, broadmoor is pretty bad, or even going like 10 or 15 under the speed limit, like on the way here I had some guy in a cadillac going 15 under.

Speaker 1 35:42

I'm like bro, it's 45 it's because it's so dude, it's sunday I don't sunday everybody goes so slow, it's annoying there's no.

Speaker 4 35:51

I don't know why there's because it's sunday yeah, I know, but it doesn't okay everywhere to be, but every other day in michigan we are going like 20 over everybody. That's safer compared to going slower. Yeah, I know I'm saying it's just a sunday thing, but come monday they're going 90 down the highway that's great sundays.

Speaker 2 36:10

They need to like pray to god that somebody don't hit them from them being stupid I think it's old people around the road on sunday.

Speaker 1 36:17

They just need to. They just drive really slow and then they don't go anywhere during the week, so they're never in your way they just need to stay at home at that point, yeah they, they have to go to church, okay.

Speaker 2 36:27

Like okay, I'd assert, that's another thing too.

Speaker 4 36:29

I don't think a lot of them should be driving.

Speaker 2 36:31

No, there's. They have like an age limit to where, like, you're allowed to drive up until this certain point or an age I think it's like 80 or something like that and I'm like why you have.

Speaker 1 36:50

I'm me, but my dad is like 73, right, I don't trust his driving anymore. Hardly like you should drive for him.

Speaker 2 36:52

I do when I visit him. Yeah, I'm like you're getting in my car or we're taking your car, whatever he wants to do, because I'm like he the way that he drives, like. So I'll tell you this he's they have a 2024 honda hrv. Okay, he's already broken the back windshield, and then he's they've already had to have some other repairs and crap, and then he's relying too much on that backup camera. So I'm like great, I'm like dad, I get it, it's cool, it's technology's advanced.

Speaker 1 37:18

you know, compared to like dude, once you get used to the the backup camera there's like no going back, I don't use it.

Speaker 2 37:28

I, the cars that we have at the store I work with for deliveries, they all have backup cameras and it's like you just put like a sheet over. I don't use it like unless unless it's like one of those big like chevy express vans, you know, or like you know like how the amazon vans are so huge, they probably got backup cameras and stuff. Oh yeah, they do. At that point that's the only time that it's like I think it's exceptional to like use a backup camera because they don't have any windows or anything that you can see to back up and how far.

Speaker 1 37:49

Well, they have side mirrors. You should be able to back up even with a side mirror.

Speaker 4 37:54

Yeah, I used to have to do that in a box truck.

Speaker 1 37:56

Ew, I still do it with FedEx. Yeah, it was gross, I was able to do it I still do the side mirrors because the backup camera isn't good enough to also see this.

Speaker 4 38:05

Yeah, it doesn't see the sides, so you almost hit somebody.

Speaker 2 38:08

If that's true, walking or something but yeah, like I mean even in my accord, like I mean I don't need a backup camera.

Speaker 4 38:15

No, I was gonna say I didn't think it did no anyways, age for yeah, age for uh driving, driving yeah it.

Speaker 2 38:25

I think it needs to be lowered, if I'm honest with you.

Speaker 4 38:30

Wait, there's an age you can. Yeah, I don't think there is. No, I don't think there is. There are some oldies driving around.

Speaker 1 38:34

There are, but like I think you can be 100 and freaking, still drive if you want to.

Speaker 2 38:37

I would not trust anybody. Hold on Age limit for Driving.

Speaker 4 38:43

But I think it should just be based on how bad you are, because when you're going like 35 and a 55, it's like if you're too scared to go that fast, you, you shouldn't be leaving home.

Speaker 2 38:53

No or if you're just not, as your senses aren't as aware as you they used to be why don't they have a cognitive test?

Speaker 1 39:01

you have no reception.

Speaker 3 39:01

What if they do it? What if they do?

Speaker 1 39:03

it's terrible, yeah that's why it took so long. Uh, why do?

Speaker 4 39:06

they.

Speaker 1 39:07

Why don't they just do a driving test when you get old enough? Like hey, starting at 75, you got to take a driving test every five years, or?

Speaker 4 39:15

every two years, or just do it every 10 years regardless.

Speaker 1 39:18

Like to everybody. Yeah, because that'd be annoying dude.

Speaker 4 39:21

Yeah, it would be annoying Some people start losing it at like 50.

Speaker 1 39:24

That's true.

Speaker 2 39:29

Oh, okay, start losing it like 50. That's true, oh yeah, okay, yeah, you guys were right. Yeah, there is no maximum age limit. Um, I knew it. Minimum age is winning 14 years and nine months um. A full, unrestricted license is typically obtained at 17 or older. Older drivers may face restrictions or requirements for license renewals. Some states may require regular medical exams for older drivers. Michigan accepts requests for driver's assessments from concerned citizens about unsafe drivers. So, yeah, if you got an old man on US 131 and he's sitting there going 30 in a 70, sorry, gramps, but like you don't need to be on the road because you want to go on a Sunday cruise.

Speaker 1 40:07

Police officers should just pull them over and give them a ticket.

Speaker 2 40:10

They should, but they're going to be like oh, I'm so sorry, it's my cataracts, and then it's just going to be a whole other problem and a half.

Speaker 1 40:18

But if they get enough tickets, they should get their license taken away anyways.

Speaker 4 40:21

They should just as soon as they get their first break here. They should, I, they should. I mean if they get over 70 points they should start pulling people over for going too slow, I think they should. And also the other thing realistically, if you're going 30, 30 and a 70, when do you think that turn signals?

Speaker 1 40:38

are. There is a minimum speed.

Speaker 4 40:41

There is a minimum, but it's 55 on the highway. Yeah, I'm saying if you're below that you need to get a ticket.

Speaker 2 40:47

But they don't give them out At that point. If you're going slower than 55, you either need to have something wrong with your car and your hazards on, or you just don't need to be on the road.

Speaker 1 40:56

Well they have a Flintstone car dude.

Speaker 4 40:57

Do you ever think that it's? They have a.

Speaker 1 40:59

What A Flintstone car dude, they're running With their feet do you ever think that it's not necessary to use your blinker?

Speaker 2 41:09

blinker I think if you're pulling out of your driveway, like you know that kind of a thing, you don't need your turn signal. But I think every turn like if it's a, if you're at a four-way stop and you're sitting there and they're, you know, obviously four-way and you're planning on turning right, don't sit there. And there's a reason there's a turn signal in the dang car. It's a safety feature, it's to indicate people that you're turning or merge. Merging is a huge one. I hate it when I see some guy just go without using a turn signal or even giving an indication that I need to maybe slow down and let him in. As frustrating is because there there's a lot of people that won't let you in regardless if you have your turn signal this sounds personal at this.

Speaker 4 41:49

It is personal because I think it's.

Speaker 1 41:51

I think it's one of my pet peeves too, like when somebody turns either right in front of you or like you're coming up and they're turning left, but they don't have a blinker on at all or one thing, you're like I'm just gonna crash if I'm on the highway and somebody's 50 feet behind me.

Speaker 2 42:06

I'm not using a blinker no, that's, that's no, that's okay, I think that's the only time we're talking about like when people are like pretty much like almost bumper to bumper or just a little like maybe a car lengths behind I've had people.

Speaker 4 42:18

Yeah, there's a reason for him at that point on burton and clyde park where I'm at.

Speaker 2 42:22

The one thing I hate. This is another thing I hate. That's personal is when you're so passionate about this no, because my johnny, he doesn't use a dang turn signal at all, he just turns whenever he's gonna get a hit I know that's, and neither does his girl.

Speaker 1 42:37

They don't use it's gonna be his fault if the other person has a dash cam hate it with a burning passion.

Speaker 2 42:42

But when? I'm sitting to have a dash cam when I'm sitting on burton and clyde park and I have to turn right to go towards Clyde Park to get to work and whatnot. There there'll be people, so it'll be a red light Right and you think if they don't have their turn signal on there at a red light they're going straight. They will wait till that red light turns green and then turn right because they have to be a good Samaritan on the road. They like, dude, you can turn right on red.

Speaker 2 43:09

Unless there's a sign or an indication that says you cannot turn right on red. They just refuse to turn right. They have to wait till the light turns green. I'm like bro, there's nothing on this.

Speaker 1 43:19

Dude, I honk at them. There's nothing over here I honk at them.

Speaker 2 43:23

Oh, I was like, what was that?

Speaker 4 43:25

Did you? I was like what was that? Did you press the sound? Yeah, no service. Huh there, uh, um, it was one.

Speaker 1 43:32

It was one of my buddy's birthday, so he said thank you tell him to shut up okay, texting anyways well what was the turn? I was gonna say something before that people don't use them.

Speaker 2 43:46

I'm like, okay, either make it to where the cars automatically are going to have a turn signal indication, that are just going to come on no matter what.

Speaker 1 43:53

But how does a car know you're going to turn right?

Speaker 2 43:55

Well, that's the car engineering. I mean, it's self-driving. They need to get rid of those no turn on route intersections.

Speaker 1 44:01

Yeah.

Speaker 4 44:02

I always wonder it, wonder it's like why is this one different?

Speaker 1 44:04

if I'm some person pulled out right in front of somebody and they're like well, we gotta put one in now but then you're right, their other solution is these roundabouts there's so many dang roundabouts it's not even funny I think roundabouts are the best things.

Speaker 2 44:18

It feels like ice skating rink I'm like sitting here like pie.

Speaker 1 44:22

Yeah, it's farther than bread, dude they're just so stupid.

Speaker 4 44:28

This is the best thing since ripped apart pie, that's what they used to say before sliced pie came by. I've never heard that.

Speaker 1 44:39

It keeps like due to light. You have to come and you have to stop and you have to wait four minutes, bro.

Speaker 4 44:45

You have to wait four minutes Instead. They're never four minutes long. The lights the to wait four minutes, bro. You have to wait four minutes instead. They're never four minutes long. The lights the lights are four minutes oh yeah, they are like all of them like half of them I'm not even.

Speaker 2 44:55

There are days where it's literally there's a four minute light and there's nothing coming from any direction and it's like why?

Speaker 4 45:01

that's when you do a parker, u-turn a parker so like say you're sitting here, this is the light and it's red. You turn right here, you do a u-turn and then this way is green, and then you make no, dude that's crazy yeah, but it's yeah, but I've done that before.

Speaker 1 45:17

But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 45:18

Once, and I was like i- should never a cop can turn on his lights and his siren to go through a red light and then immediately turn them off.

Speaker 1 45:24

I'm like I've seen them that's. That's actually illegal. They shouldn't do. I hate that. Well, and then immediately turn them off. I've seen them do that. That's actually illegal. They shouldn't do that.

Speaker 2 45:27

I hate that, and then the other thing is who's going to arrest them?

Speaker 4 45:31

Well, actually no.

Speaker 2 45:33

Another cop can actually do that.

Speaker 4 45:35

If they see another cop doing something, they know that that cop is armed.

Speaker 2 45:38

Yeah, but they're armed too At that point.

Speaker 1 45:43

Yo, I got a bigger gun in the back, you know.

Speaker 2 45:45

Yeah, no, I'm like that's one thing I hate.

Speaker 1 45:48

No, he doesn't that guy, he or she doesn't. I got an AK dude.

Speaker 2 45:53

Yeah, an AK-47 in the back.

Speaker 1 45:56

I got a Tommy gun bro.

Speaker 2 45:57

God bless.

Speaker 4 45:59

I'm telling no, I'm saying the cop, nice Boston accent yeah, it was terrible.

Speaker 2 46:04

Nice Boston accent, sweet accent yeah, it was terrible, boston accent.

Speaker 4 46:07

It didn't sound anything like it.

Speaker 1 46:09

If you ever come out here and do that again.

Speaker 2 46:11

Actually a cop can if you ever, ever do that again.

Speaker 4 46:22

Shut up.

Speaker 1 46:22

Shut up, dude.

Speaker 4 46:23

Ethan continue.

Speaker 1 46:26

A cop can give himself give himself what. Give himself a ticket if he wanted to why would you do?

Speaker 4 46:35

that is there any time in history that a cop was like man?

Speaker 2 46:40

I don't think so there he's got, he's got, but you can't, so he's got right, yeah his quota, so he's got to write a supplementation.

Speaker 4 46:47

Yeah, there you go, you ran out of time.

Speaker 1 46:49

He's like I'm one away.

Speaker 2 46:51

I'll just give it to myself. Hey, why do you have 10 tickets written by yourself? You kept running red lights.

Speaker 1 46:56

You give it to your son or something like that. That would be crazy.

Speaker 4 47:00

You woke up late Ticket. Imagine how regimented a cop would be like he's trying to teach his son to drive and he's like, hey, you can. You can go like 10 miles over the speed limit. He starts going.

Speaker 3 47:13

He's like up ticket oh, you didn't, you don't have a ticket.

Speaker 1 47:18

That's a double ticket like just for household things. You didn't walk. Walk the dog ticket.

Speaker 2 47:24

That's. One thing I will be terrified is if I ever do have kids and I have like a son or daughter and they're teaching them how to drive like I'd be terrified to be in the passenger seat while they're like all right, we're going to do the main roads today, because I don't know how y'all learned. I learned in a Kmart parking lot in the winter, which I think is the best.

Speaker 1 47:42

You just got to take them to a parking lot. What do you mean? To a parking lot? What do you mean?

Speaker 4 47:45

Like, don't just take them on the road? Yeah, but parking lot is going to be different than on the road.

Speaker 2 47:48

Yeah like you want to start?

Speaker 1 47:49

Yeah, but you have to you have to, you know you have to envision the road in the parking lot.

Speaker 4 47:55

You don't start them off on the main road? Obviously yeah, but there comes a point where it's like I take downtown Detroit.

Speaker 1 48:01

You know I mean down down the hard roads, you know yeah well, like so, and I think too.

Speaker 2 48:11

I think, learning to drive in the winter is the best way to learn how to drive in general.

Speaker 2 48:15

Because if you think about it, if you learn how to drive in the spring and summer, even the fall, you're not going to have that moment of like oh the road's slippery. And know what to do, because then that'll be your first winner and you're gonna have more of a likely chance to, like, get an accident or something happening like. That's where I told my dad and stepmom when I was learning how to drive, I was like I want to do it in the winter because then that way, like the summertime, stuff will be a breeze, no problem man do.

Speaker 4 48:40

I hate driving in the winter.

Speaker 2 48:41

I do too still, but I'd rather then you can slide a nice hit something and but it's the experience that you get from it driving in the winter at that point, because then it's like I know what to do if my car starts fishtailing for no reason. I'm like I just let it do its thing, because if I try to fight it it's going to make it worse and I could cause an accident or kill myself at that point and I don't want that.

Speaker 4 48:59

I would rather know what I'm doing to kill myself spinning down the road during winter time is a michigan thing, though yeah, that's terrible. One time I was on the phone with my sister, jessica, on my way to an interview and as I'm talking to her, I like lost control of the vehicle and I did a full 360 while I'm on the phone and I just like kept driving I've done that once.

Speaker 1 49:25

I did that once.

Speaker 2 49:25

It's just like such like Michigan stories, because that's so normal the way you did, like the gesture of, like I was doing a 360 360 on the phone.

Speaker 4 49:35

Yeah, I was just like, so you've done a complete sick 360. I think I just I spun and I just like kept going straight.

Speaker 1 49:41

I think I've done like where you go sideways, what?

Speaker 4 49:45

it's just a funny image the fact that I could imagine him being so calm, still talking on the phone with his sister as he's spinning going that's what happened and I was like, yeah, I just spun around, so I'm gonna let you go, because I gotta pay attention to the road, I think I've done like sideways and then like recorrected myself when I was like totally sideways when I was in my jeep.

Speaker 2 50:05

Uh, I was on my way to work when I worked at farmer's insurance and I remember this this car came on the exit from 36th street to go past that gerald r ford airport and he just cut me off and so I had to break, but I wasn't even going that fast either. Everybody on the highway no joke was going maybe 35 tops, it was that icy out, and so I remember putting on my brakes and even just the slight brakes breaking Like I spun around like three times.

Speaker 1 50:33

Three times Three times.

Speaker 2 50:34

Yeah, Three full 360s. I don't believe it. And then the best part was You're lying to me. I don't know why my head thought this. But then I straightened out, but then went sideways. I was like and I was hitting. I knew I was going to hit the guardrail Head on right and I Thought okay, the airbags are going to go off, whatever. For some reason, my brain Instead of I was thinking it came out into like perspective and I said brace yourselves for Impact and then I.

Speaker 2 51:03

Did. And then I hit the guardrail None of the airbags went off, the bumper just Got cracked a little bit and the guardrail None of the airbags went off, the bumper just got cracked a little bit and then my headlight one of the bolts broke off and so it just kind of like flanged around a little bit. But then I remember I was because I spun one more time and then I was facing oncoming traffic and at that point there was a U-turn that I could go back home. And I was like I was in shock because I was like, okay, I'm not hurt, or anything like that.

Speaker 2 51:29

But that was terrifying and I don't know if I just want to go home now or if I want to just make it because I could, just because it was so far back with how traffic was, I could go out of the 36th street exit and then just go to work. So that's what I ended up doing. And then people like, as soon as I walked in the building, like you look like you, you saw it like you're a deer in the headlights, and I was like, yeah, I just got, like you know, I spun around three times, hit a guardrail and then just, you know, had to go towards oncoming traffic, you know. So, yeah, and it was either turn around and go home, which would have been probably more dangerous, or, you know, come to work after hearing that story I did not want to listen to you this winter about how people can't drive in the winter hey, no, that was.

Speaker 2 52:03

It sounds like you can't did I?

Speaker 4 52:06

you missed the part where the guy the guy came in and cut me off he didn't

Speaker 2 52:11

all right he didn't use a turn signal he just we're back he just merged, but he didn't even care and I'm like, and he's in a white car too and it's like snowing. So it's like you can't see crap in a white car. It's like at night you can't see a black car hardly, unless they have their lights on at that most you're definitely damaged with this guy not using his blinker.

Speaker 2 52:33

Yeah well, it's not just him, it's just everybody in general I'm sitting here just driving normally and I'm like, okay, cool, there's a red light and then he's gonna stop and go, but no, he just turns right I think you should see this guy it's a green light, but then I'm thinking he's gonna go straight.

Speaker 4 52:48

Remember his license plate. No, dang it, dude you can't hunt him down now.

Speaker 2 52:51

Yeah, that cop.

Speaker 1 52:52

Another reason to have a dash cam. Another reason to have a dash cam I need to get a dash cap.

Speaker 2 52:58

They have one on amazon for like 150 bucks oh really it's a full 360 shoot, I'm gonna get one it's a. You plug it into your like obd. I only need.

Speaker 1 53:05

I only care about the front, though usually I mean the front and the back are really you would want in michigan, though, if you get rear-ended, it's automatically the other person's fault, so that's not according to him.

Speaker 4 53:16

I can't. No, it's like a 90 percent tie.

Speaker 2 53:20

Well, yeah, that too for that sentence that instance because I I mean nine times out of ten, you take it to court.

Speaker 1 53:27

You're gonna lose. But if you have video evidence of a guy, like say you're on the highway and the guy randomly brake checks and you hit him, yeah even if you had pretty good distance. So then you hit him. Yeah, that guy can get the ticket yeah I mean even two what if I?

Speaker 2 53:46

what if?

Speaker 1 53:47

what if I the front guy? Yeah, what if I have to?

Speaker 4 53:49

slam the brakes on because there's people in front of me doing that right.

Speaker 1 53:53

Well then, yeah, that's the guy's fault, yeah but can the dash cam see that? If you probably have, maybe if it's don't yawn what?

Speaker 2 54:02

it's not even late, bro. I was out late. I was out till dude stopped doing well.

Speaker 1 54:07

Don was out late. I was out till 3 am Last night. Well, don't do that.

Speaker 2 54:12

Anyways, I woke up at like I think nine o'clock and I got home at like three. So I mean six hours. I mean it was a decent amount of sleep, but at the same time it's not a decent amount of sleep and I'm still going out tonight, probably going to be out past midnight. So, yeah, it's going to be a fun time. We're going to move on. You need a nap. I need a lot more than a nap.

Speaker 4 54:36

You didn't even let there be any silence before you said we're going to move on.

Speaker 2 54:38

I know because I was listening and you just yeah, I had a little bit to drink last night.

Speaker 3 54:45

Wow.

Speaker 2 54:46

And then you little bit.

Speaker 4 54:47

I had a little bit to drink last night wow.

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Speaker 2 54:48

And then uh, you, yeah, I know crazy right and then stephan's gone off the deep end yeah, because I I'm a total alcoholic now yeah a hundred percent I had one.

Speaker 4 54:56

I can smell it through the microphone dog, just like the earwax in your headphones yeah, no, it was.

Speaker 3 55:00

It was a fun night, though.

Speaker 2 55:01

I mean like we just we hang out at the bar, we go for a few drinks, then we grab food and then pretty much just went back and to her no it was a fun night, though, I mean like we just we hang out at the bar, we go for a few drinks, then we grab food and then pretty much just went back to her place and then just chatted for a little bit. So I mean that was about it, but then tonight's going to be like a fun night.

Speaker 4 55:17

You better be careful going back to.

Speaker 2 55:19

Easy now. Yeah, easy now.

Speaker 3 55:24

Yeah, I mean it's been fun.

Speaker 1 55:25

Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's been fun. That's all I'm going to say we got it.

Speaker 2 55:27

You know, I'm taking her to Texas Roadhouse, oh yeah, going to that roadie. Go to there, I was like so there was Sorry God. There was you internet ever.

Speaker 1 55:38

I've duped it up.

Speaker 2 55:39

I don't know we're going to, so I'm going to take her to Dorado's Mexican Bar and Grill because she likes chorizo tacos. It's basically a Mexican bar and grill.

Speaker 4 55:50

Where is it?

Speaker 2 55:51

It's in Hudsonville.

Speaker 4 55:52

Did you ask what it was after he said it's a Mexican bar and grill. Oh, I thought he said I'm going to Dorado's Mexican bar and grill and you're like what is that? And he's like it's a Mexican bar and grill, that's what I thought too.

Speaker 2 56:04

I, that's what I thought too. It's like, why are you asking that?

Speaker 2 56:06

Anyways, continue, yeah, so I was going to go there, but by the time she gets out of work because she gets out of work at 7, but I'm trying to get ready beforehand like clean out the car and all that other crap, and I told her I'd pick her up at 8. So she's got like an hour to get ready and just kind of chill for a little bit. And they close around like 8, 39 o'clock so I'm like we're not going to have time to sit down or do anything. So Texas Roadhouse is open until 10 pm tonight.

Speaker 2 56:31

So, I'm like we can go there and then we're going to go to the hookah lounge and we're going to chill and then probably go back to her place and just hang out Stuff in the hookah lounge. We haven't been there in years, dude.

Speaker 1 56:51

You know how one it's basically like.

Speaker 2 56:54

It looks like I don't know what.

Speaker 4 56:55

You call it a bomb, it looks like a bomb yeah and it's tobacco, and it's this big hose and you're just like yeah, and you put the piece and then you charcoal on top put a piece of charcoal and you breathe it out and it's like big clouds, like a vape.

Speaker 1 57:09

Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 57:09

Like we used to do.

Speaker 1 57:10

Yeah, yeah, yeah, back in the heyday, bro, back in the heyday.

Speaker 4 57:14

Back in my prime when I used to vape and I was cool.

Speaker 1 57:17

Back when I cut pie, you know.

Speaker 4 57:21

But it's tobacco, so Stefan your lungs.

Speaker 2 57:25

Dude. But you know like when was the last time me and you went? Was it with?

Speaker 4 57:30

It had to have been at least 10 years ago 10 years ago, I think. My lungs have recovered a little bit from there since I haven't done any kind of vaping or hookah since then. Yeah, you're going to wake up tomorrow and you're going to be like Just going to sound like Marge Simpson.

Speaker 1 57:43

Do you have work tomorrow?

Speaker 2 57:44

No, oh good, my weekends are Sunday and. Monday. So Saturday after work and then Sunday Monday.

Speaker 4 57:50

Oh boom, Another one on the topic. Do you think hookah is a sin? Spit it out.

Speaker 1 57:55

Hot take Come on.

Speaker 2 57:56

Come on, Indiana.

Speaker 1 57:58

Well, that always depends on if you're changing your mind.

Speaker 2 58:01

State whether something is it's just tobacco, that's all it is is tobacco, it's just tobacco.

Speaker 4 58:06

That's all it is is tobacco.

Speaker 1 58:08

So you do the cigars.

Speaker 2 58:10

Like I said, if you have enough of it, it changes your mind state yeah, but tobacco is extreme?

Speaker 1 58:14

I don't know, because it depends on how concentrated it is.

Speaker 2 58:18

I'm not going to sit there and puff it until I pass out, kind of thing. I'm just there taking a few hits and then I'm relaxing and chilled. That's it.

Speaker 4 58:26

I don't necessarily. I don't think it's yeah, I don't think it's really a sin, it's just a bad habit?

Speaker 1 58:33

I don't think it's not, it's not good for you, Cause, like I think, well, doesn't, doesn't, and one of the strict scriptures isn't like don't do stuff, that's and whatever.

Speaker 3 58:48

So what do you call depression?

Speaker 4 58:49

Not good for your mind One minute on that. But what about cigars? Yeah, it's not good for you, but not necessarily it's not like a sin but I don't think it's good for you. Are you talking about the verse that talks about how not everything is unlawful but not everything is beneficial? Yeah, is that what it is? I would say it probably fits into that. That talks about how not everything is unlawful but not everything is beneficial.

Speaker 1 59:08

Yeah, is that what it is?

Speaker 4 59:09

Yeah, I would say it probably fits under that category.

Speaker 1 59:12

Yeah, but I mean, you could say that for video games too. You could say that for a lot of things or your phone, yeah remember John Humphreys or just sitting here talking.

Speaker 4 59:20

No, it's basically saying, like we're not saying video games are a sin.

Speaker 2 59:24

we're not saying video games are a sin.

Speaker 4 59:26

We're saying there's stuff in video games, no there's just like there's things that are not sinful but they're also not good for you. Yeah, like pizza isn't really a sin, but if you eat it every day, it's not really going to is it really going to help you out?

Speaker 1 59:40

No, Right, yeah, I like drinking too many monsters. Is it not?

Speaker 2 59:48

too many monsters, is it not?

Speaker 4 59:49

or like video games too much, like, yeah, video games are fun and can be a distressor, but like if you, if it's eight hours a day yeah, I used to do that, dude.

Speaker 2 59:53

I would play like on my days off. I used to just be on it from like first thing in the morning when I wake up, until, like I felt like passing out at like two or three in the morning yeah, that was my life.

Speaker 1 1:00:02

It's pretty much like, instead of god focus, you're focusing on world focus.

Speaker 2 1:00:06

That's like like so yeah yeah, and I was like because caleb will tell you, I used to be up even when me and him used to play fortnight all the time. We would sit there and be up until whatever time, but he would get on later yeah, you guys shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 1 1:00:21

What do?

Speaker 2 1:00:23

you mean just kidding?

Speaker 3 1:00:25

It was just fun.

Speaker 1 1:00:26

But like I'd be on Fortnite, I did it before too- yeah, I'd be on Fortnite already.

Speaker 2 1:00:30

And then he'd be like it'd be what? Maybe eight or nine o'clock at night, and you'd be like, hey, I'm ready and I'm like, all right, I've been playing for like the last six hours, yep.

Speaker 1 1:00:38

But yeah.

Speaker 2 1:00:41

You really warmed up then, so addicted at that.

Speaker 1 1:00:43

So so when, when I was in high school, what?

Speaker 4 1:00:46

I would do what I was going to say brain frying literally when you play for hours of video games.

Speaker 2 1:00:52

I remember when I would play six hours of fortnight.

Speaker 1 1:00:54

It'd be like you're just stupid, yeah, you're brain. Anyways, back to me. So when I was in high school, I used to do all my homework at lunchtime so I could go home and play video games for the rest of the day. So when I would get home at 3.30 until 10 o'clock, yeah, it was my job.

Speaker 4 1:01:17

That's dope, dude, that's dope.

Speaker 1 1:01:25

Can you say dope, one more time.

Speaker 4 1:01:27

Dope one more time Like groovy it was a terrible story, but that's okay, like zoik scoob, let's move on.

Speaker 1 1:01:33

I thought it was To a better story.

Speaker 4 1:01:35

It was just a boy like a boy.

Speaker 1 1:01:38

That's definitely what guys do. Yeah, because I would do similar stuff.

Speaker 4 1:01:41

I don't think I would do my homework at lunchtime.

Speaker 1 1:01:44

No, I hated getting home and having homework.

Speaker 4 1:01:47

Because I just do my homework at lunchtime.

Speaker 2 1:01:48

No, I hated getting home and having homework, because you go there for eight hours.

Speaker 3 1:01:51

Right, this is his turn signal.

Speaker 1 1:01:52

Yeah, this is my turn signal. You go to school for eight hours and then they give you homework that you have to do at home, like imagine going to work like every day, and then they give you work home Like ah, nah, dude. So I was like I am not going home with homework see, my solution was I just didn't do homework. Oh yeah, yeah you could do that too, I mean working retail and grocery for so long.

Speaker 2 1:02:17

Like years ago, I would sit there and come home and I'd like they would want you to front and face everything in the store so you'd have the label no, you did it at home, I'm not even joking my cupboards, my fridge and everything I had. I would sit there if I had a water bottle that was like this, where you couldn't see anything. I have to be like were you bored? No, I just was like it's just habit, I gotta have it.

Speaker 4 1:02:37

Yeah, I gotta stock it I would work at speedway and you'd have to do all the front facing oh yeah, you worked at the one that was near us when you were staying with our dad for a little bit?

Speaker 1 1:02:46

Yes, but I never went home and did it.

Speaker 4 1:02:49

I think I might have, just because you're just so used to it. It's just like then you look back at it and also I'm not going to lie it looks good. It does Because you walk into a Speedway and it's just Mountain Dew and it's all facing the same way.

Speaker 1 1:03:02

I want to mess it up every time, don't. I want to mess it up every time, don't.

Speaker 2 1:03:05

Just like turn that, just punch it, just one can. He turns where the barcode showing out of all the cans oh my gosh, I hate that. One thing I hate too this is I don't work the front end at the store that I work with. But when you see a product that like, okay, if there's only two things on the shelf alone, right, just two. Let's just say it's this and that can, right there, right, somebody will sit there and even though there's another can of that exact one in front of it, they'll just put it right where this is, instead of putting it back right exactly where the other thing was. It's like, really, you're that lazy where you have to put this in front of here like that.

Speaker 1 1:03:43

Screw you. Yeah, it is annoying it is. You know what I do though is. I never take the front one, I take the second one, dude.

Speaker 2 1:03:52

I do that with milk.

Speaker 1 1:03:53

Is that weird? Do you think that?

Speaker 4 1:03:54

people's grubby hands were on the first one.

Speaker 1 1:03:56

Maybe I don't know. It's just like in a reaction. Sometimes I just take the second one.

Speaker 4 1:03:59

I always take the first one and I hope it's already open.

Speaker 2 1:04:03

The milk is the one that I drank a little bit, I think that's just a tradition for everybody with milk, at least, because the dates in the back are always like the most. Maybe that's where I get it from because that's what I do with my half gallons that I usually get for my cereal and stuff is I'll just go in the back and then that makes sense with milk because, like yeah, because you get like the ones in the front, it's like july 15th and it's like, okay, that's going to expire in like two days.

Speaker 2 1:04:25

But then you go in the back and it's like july 30th and it's like, oh sick, I'm gonna get that one I don't really have that problem because I we do like uh, I don't know the fake milk now that lasts like a month it's like the low, like it's not really milk it's like.

Speaker 1 1:04:41

It's kind of like soy I think it's soy milk but tastes exactly the same. Dude like I If you had two glasses you could not tell if they weren't labeled.

Speaker 4 1:04:52

I don't even really drink milk.

Speaker 2 1:04:54

No. Are you lactose intolerant?

Speaker 4 1:04:55

No, I think I was. I just don't really think of drinking it.

Speaker 2 1:05:01

It's not bad, you can get calcium from yogurt which I eat. Yogurt's good, I haven't had. Oh, yoplait yogurt is like the best.

Speaker 4 1:05:09

That's hardly yogurt, stefan. Come on, dude, that's sugar.

Speaker 2 1:05:11

The Greek yogurt is disgusting. I'm sorry, they are terrible.

Speaker 4 1:05:15

I eat plain Greek yogurt. Greek yogurt I tried one Put some cinnamon on there, dude.

Speaker 2 1:05:19

I can't. It's just adding that.

Speaker 1 1:05:34

I think it's your thing. I don't even think cinnamon isn't sugar, though.

Speaker 4 1:05:35

Yeah, it is cinnamon is like half sugar, isn't it? Cinnamon by itself is not sugar. Oh, I was thinking brown sugar, yeah, not cinnamon. A lot of times people do mix cinnamon and sugar, but you can buy just cinnamon you know those cinnamon challenges that people did.

Speaker 1 1:05:44

They used to do those cinnamon challenges.

Speaker 4 1:05:47

Yes, they were stupid. You can die from that, dude. Let's try it, you want?

Speaker 3 1:05:51

to try it. No, I have a time.

Speaker 4 1:05:54

I've never tried it. You should try it on air.

Speaker 1 1:05:59

I want to see how you fare. What do you even do? You just put it in your mouth, right, you just?

Speaker 4 1:06:04

take a spoonful of cinnamon you try to swallow it, and you try to swallow it.

Speaker 2 1:06:08

Yeah, and you can't, and it's like there was one time.

Speaker 3 1:06:10

That sounds like yeah, John did it.

Speaker 2 1:06:12

John did it once and he nearly died, because it instantly dries your whole throat and you can't, yeah, and you start breathing it in because you cough. Yeah, so then it gets.

Speaker 1 1:06:27

Yeah, it would be something to look up how many people died from the cinnamon challenge Dude, look it up right now. Okay, go to the Google time with Ethan.

Speaker 4 1:06:37

So aliens.

Speaker 2 1:06:38

Yeah, oh, we're going to we're just doing a little segue while you're might as well while you're looking that up one thing. Okay, can I say something as for aviation? I hate that there's so many plane crashes and like helicopter crashes there has been a lot lately and dad and laura are sitting there and like yeah, you should. You know it's 150 bucks for like a round trip on a plane. I said yeah, but like have you seen how many planes have crashed as of recently?

Speaker 4 1:07:07

in their defense. Have you seen how many haven't?

Speaker 2 1:07:09

I mean that too, but at the same time it's just like I'm sorry, but like, unless I have to get on a plane, what if?

Speaker 4 1:07:14

we get to a point where it's like only planes in the newspaper they start only telling uh stories of planes landing like planes successfully landed today.

Speaker 2 1:07:27

I'd be even more terrified because they're so bad but it is weird, like that one in india, yeah. And then there was the helicopter that uh just randomly crossed uh, it uh crashed into the washington river like just out of nowhere yeah, but that was a while ago no, that was well, I mean maybe a few months ago, like it was a few months ago it was the one we talked about on the last episode.

Speaker 2 1:07:47

Yeah, like yes but even then too, yeah, you got the one in the Indian, the Indian ocean. What was it? Malaysia, something Unless that would know that was a long time ago. There was another one, though, that crashed recently too, and it's just like what is happening, like why are? Why are we having problems? I'm not making a joke while saying this, but we had the terrorist attack things during 9-11, where now TSA is on everybody's butt about get through the line. We're going to pat you down from head to toe. We're going through three different scanners to make sure you're not bringing anything, and then planes are supposed to be safer, but then you have malfunctions.

Speaker 4 1:08:24

Yeah, but it's not the passenger's fault that the planes are malfunctioning no, but like even still, like well too much weight, you know to a degree too.

Speaker 2 1:08:32

I don't even know if the whole rumor I don't even know if the whole rumor of like you have to have your cell phones turned off, and here's a hot take.

Speaker 4 1:08:38

Since we're talking about planes, I think really fat people should have to buy two tickets, yeah. And when you're sitting on a plane, those compact, yeah seats and there's three of you, they're like, and like bertha comes and sits down and she's the size of two people. Dude, it's uncomfortable have you?

Speaker 1 1:08:55

why don't they have a designated fat person section?

Speaker 3 1:08:57

yeah, it's called the cargo bay.

Speaker 4 1:09:03

Oh man, have you ever been to north?

Speaker 2 1:09:06

star theater in rockford no they. Their seats are like airplane, they're compact, like it's like from, like you have one seat here to here and it's that much space for watching a movie on a plane. It is exactly the same thing, and I feel like there should be like I don't know, it sounds dumb, but just make a Fatty Express airline or something like that, where the seats are double wide.

Speaker 4 1:09:30

That's not a bad idea, I'm sorry, dude. Did you find out how many people died from cinnamon?

Speaker 1 1:09:34

No, I couldn't figure it out, I couldn't find anything that would say anything.

Speaker 2 1:09:38

They have to have something. I think too. Granted, I know I'm big, but I'm not 600-pound life big, whether I know I'm big, but I'm not like 600-pound life big Right. And when you get those people whether it's a disorder or not, because most of the time it's a life choice they eat their depression away or they just don't want to do anything and so they're like I'm just going to sit on the couch and eat like a whole family size lasagna, but does their depression really go away?

Speaker 2 1:10:02

No, my depression isn't going away, but you don't see me gaining like 300 extra pounds.

Speaker 4 1:10:06

I think the only way you really get rid of depression is like outside and exercise Exactly yeah. You can take medicine, but I don't think it doesn't help.

Speaker 1 1:10:19

It produces chemicals that actually are the happy chemical or whatever.

Speaker 3 1:10:21

The medicine too also yeah.

Speaker 2 1:10:22

Yeah, the medicine also. So I was on antidepressants for a while too, and they actually make you gain weight. So then that just adds more like yeah, you might not be as depressed.

Speaker 1 1:10:31

Yeah, they can't give you medicine that actually works. Oh right.

Speaker 2 1:10:35

That's true. They can't give you something that fully fixes the problem Right but like it's still like you're trying to get like the depression gone to a degree and, yeah, you may, may, be less depressed, but then you're seeing yourself blowed up and it's like oh cool well, I'm still depressed at this point.

Speaker 2 1:10:52

So then you keep getting refills and all this other crap. So, but eventually what happened was is my doctor had told me, like if you want to get off these, you don't, you're not recommended to stay on them unless, like you know, suicidal whatever. And um, then I just started going outside more and you know doing, obviously now doing the exercising and all that other crap.

Speaker 1 1:11:15

So and that's helped out like a ton dude.

Speaker 2 1:11:17

I've lost over 75 pounds like good job.

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Speaker 4 1:11:19

Yeah, high five air five I also don't like how in the commercials dog how in the commercials dog for depression medicine. It'll be like if you're experiencing suicidal thoughts this may increase the chances.

Speaker 2 1:11:36

Yeah, it's like I thought it was supposed to fix that I hate that. I hate it. And then they make the commercials like they're all partying and having a good time. Side effects may include death.

Speaker 4 1:11:47

It's like and you might die. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 1:11:50

Yeah, death and super death.

Speaker 4 1:11:52

Death, super death, heart problems, insomnia.

Speaker 2 1:11:56

Which I wonder too, since we're talking about medicine what do you all think if they actually have a thing for cancer or not?

Speaker 1 1:12:02

Have you heard anything about that?

Speaker 2 1:12:04

I think they do have a cure for cancer. It's just they don't want to give it out because if you think about it like it's too much money, it's too much money, but then they'd also be. There is Okay, this also is like a conspiracy theory thing too to a degree, but there's the. What is it? There's a stone plaque thing. That's like the, where the human population is supposed to go down by a certain year, or something like that. If you guys know what I'm talking about, it's the world war, uh, world order, or something like one world order kind of thing. So the population is supposed to be down to only like two million or something stupid like that, like a really low number by 2030, something, and there's only so much time for that to happen, because then that'll be people in control. But like it's the same thing with medicine too is like if you cured everybody's cancer, that means you're prospering somebody's life, but they're also talking about, like reverse aging.

Speaker 2 1:13:01

I wouldn't want that. Well, I like where we don't age anymore I mean, I don't think you can ever fight nature that much. Well, chuck Norris can, so can. What's her name? Jennifer Lopez. She can fight the aging thing.

Speaker 1 1:13:14

You think it's not going to be possible.

Speaker 2 1:13:17

No, no Do you Same thing with, like I don't know, that's a good question. The age increase too, like people trying to live longer and stuff like that it longer and stuff like that. It's like why would you want to live past like 150? Like I'm sorry, like that'd be boring, I would rather. I'd rather just like why would you want to live forever? Even people that are like cryogenically frozen? They're like hoping, like yeah, like you know, I'll wake up in like 3020 or whatever, and then there'll be technological advances and I can live forever. It's like why would you want to do that?

Speaker 4 1:13:44

can we go back to the one world order? Yeah, you said by 2030, they want to get the population down 2030.

Speaker 1 1:13:51

I think it's something that's not that far.

Speaker 2 1:13:52

I think it's something like that, where it's five years.

Speaker 4 1:13:55

Let me but you, they. You're saying they want to get the population down to only 2 million people on the world. Some like I was gonna say really low. I have to get rid of billions of people they're gonna have to nuke the world dude at that point that fast order.

Speaker 2 1:14:12

Let me see if I can find it exactly, or?

Speaker 1 1:14:15

or really, or really really bad disease, I mean like covid like covid, except it actually did does kill that many people yeah, something that they were saying what COVID was supposed to be.

Speaker 4 1:14:27

It's crazy. That's the conspiracy.

Speaker 1 1:14:29

I mean, childbirth is already going down new world. But 2030, that's only five years.

Speaker 2 1:14:36

Yeah, and I mean, I thought you meant 23, like 20,. I'm trying to see if they show the year.

Speaker 1 1:14:43

Which would be like 250 years or 275 years Conspiracy theories.

Speaker 4 1:14:51

Conspiracy.

Speaker 2 1:14:53

Listen.

Speaker 4 1:14:54

Conspiracy, it is an actual thing, there's an actual rock and everything like that.

Speaker 2 1:14:58

That shows the rules of like it's supposed to go down to this number for the population by this year. Rules of like it's supposed to go down to this number for the population by this year and then, if not, then the world is doomed for, basically, us not being taken over by the government oh, it's something stupid rock well, it's not a rock. No, it's not.

Speaker 4 1:15:13

Like they said, aliens carved it as you're like brought it down. Yeah, as you're holding a rock. No, it's life is beautiful, but here here's what show that to the camera?

Speaker 2 1:15:22

so it says it's a conspiracy theory that possessed the existence of the secret cobble of global elites planning to establish a totalitarian world government. This proposed global regimen is envisioned as eliminating national sovereignty, replacing it with authoritarian structure controlled by the hidden elite, with authoritarian structure controlled by the hidden elite. And then it says manipulation and control. Inheritances believe that the elite, manipulation, politics and financial events created the crisis such as COVID-19 and control narratives now that unrest and facilitate their plan for global domination, disarm and control. Some versions of the theory include the idea the plan involves disarming citizens to make them easier to control, which here's that also too. So guns now. In order to buy a gun, you have to get a like a pistol or anything like that, you have to get a CPL. There there's. You can't just go out and buy a pistol.

Speaker 1 1:16:18

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:16:18

So and that was during Joe Biden's term because when I found that out, joe Biden was making this thing where he said, yeah, if you're going to get a gun before this date, you better get it now, because after that you're going to need a CPL. So that's when I went out and bought my gun and I don't have a CPL. But again, I'm not going to go flashing my gun out to the public, but I don't have to take the CPL if I don't want to, but nowadays you have to. So I don't know how it is with ARs and shotguns and stuff.

Speaker 1 1:16:51

I think you can get a Wait. What if you're buying private party?

Speaker 2 1:16:54

Still got to, as far as I know, unless you got a stupid amount of money. I think you still need to have some kind of class or something like that.

Speaker 1 1:17:02

I don't know how the government regulates like private party. It's like the second buying and selling. I think that's how gangs kind of do it.

Speaker 2 1:17:09

I mean realistically I mean, yeah, you can do it illegally, sure, but like, at that point it's kind of ruining the whole second.

Speaker 1 1:17:15

Yeah, I think if you have to buy it from cabela's or something, you'd have to get a cpl yeah, but if you had a pistol, if I had a pistol and I wanted to sell it to kill, he's not.

Speaker 4 1:17:24

Maybe he's not gonna kill, but technically, you have to fill out a form and bring it to the police station. Because what? Yeah, yeah, because you're.

Speaker 2 1:17:30

That's crazy you're basically at this point if any crime is tied to you, let's say, and caleb buys the gun and something happens with it, they know that you recently gave it to him. So if they don't really need to come to you for questioning, to a degree they're gonna go towards him because if they find out that whatever bullet or whatever came out of this particular gun, yeah, you can track it back to him because, oh, ethan randomly sold it to but if it's inherited, it's fine I don't know about inheritance.

Speaker 2 1:17:56

I think that's a different thing. I think because I mean if it's something from like, because I think I think my dad inherited a hunting shotgun. There's, like certain guns from like certain years, that you don't need like a permit thing for Like if it's something like a basket rifle from like 1776, you don't need a permit. I think it's like a historical thing you need maybe. But it's.

Speaker 2 1:18:19

I'm not saying it's that old, no, but like there's certain year guns, like from a certain year to a certain year, that like you don't need any kind of special thing because it's considered historic. Yeah so, but if it's something obviously of like today's age and stuff, then you're gonna need all this paperwork and cpl stuff sorry, is the one world order in the bible.

Speaker 4 1:18:41

Yeah, I think it is like the one world government, because I know people talk about it. Yeah, I think it's in that revelation, with the revelations but, yeah, but it's with it's in that same but is the mark of the beast also the one world order like? Where do people?

Speaker 2 1:18:55

get probably part of it because, think about it, if you have the one world order and it's like this is the only way that you're allowed to buy you know goods, then that shrivels down to the people that are going to cave in and do it because how are Christians going to survive during that time?

Speaker 4 1:19:09

We?

Speaker 2 1:19:09

won't. It'll be basically like the Nazis and Jews and world war two where hopefully I die before that time. Well, at that point I think too, like when we saw what was it I think it was just called Rapture Like my dad showed us that movie, yeah but we don't know if that's biblically accurate.

Speaker 2 1:19:25

Right, but at the same time, like if people are literally going to be disappearing and they're going to be like oh my gosh, like what's happening and stuff like that, you know, then yeah, there is going to be like a global pandemic at that point where people are going to be freaking out looting, rioting and killing. And what my dad said is if you, or other people that have told me too, if you get shot or you get murdered or whatever during that time period and you don't commit suicide wise, then you go with the rapture as long as you announce that Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior and all that other stuff and forgiveness for your sins.

Speaker 1 1:20:01

Yeah, I mean I'm not really worried about that.

Speaker 4 1:20:03

Neither am I. So if the rapture happens today, do you think Jesus is going to be looking for his people on the hookah lounge?

Speaker 1 1:20:09

bro, that's the first place.

Speaker 4 1:20:12

He looks I'm just, I'm just kidding You're gonna be joining Um yeah.

Speaker 1 1:20:19

I was gonna say something, then I forgot dude because he brought up the hookah leave.

Speaker 2 1:20:23

Yeah, get out he takes off the headphones and puts on his headphones.

Speaker 4 1:20:27

No, ethan, I'm just kidding. Okay, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 1:20:30

We're kidding yeah.

Speaker 4 1:20:32

I'll remember, in like five minutes we were talking about one world order, I think it has to do with Revelation. Rapture Revelation.

Speaker 1 1:20:38

Oh no with. I think we're ramping up to have a religious fight, not even just in the us, I mean, I think the other countries have been fighting for a long time, like well, look at iran and israel right now yeah, I mean I think they've been fighting for a long time, but I think it's rampant. The us is ramping up to have that uh happen, happened, where it's well pretty much christians versus regular world people in a way too I don't know if it really necessarily clash of I don't know if it helped.

Speaker 2 1:21:10

Didn't help with like how trump just basically took care of uh, what was it? It was uh, iran's nuclear power plant thing, like he, like they basically took care of it, like they bombed it, pretty much, I guess, and that way it would stop and like iran's, like you know, ceasefire and all this other crap, like I don't know if that necessarily helped, because that would just irk me more at that point if you were iran, you mean, yeah, if I was iran.

Speaker 2 1:21:36

That would irk me more, even though, yeah, like it's it's a weird kind of gray area for me personally on it. But it it's like, okay, it's their fighting, so let them handle it, we don't need to get involved because it's not our thing. But then it's like that's still a bad thing because that's innocent people getting hurt because two people don't know how to settle a conflict. So let's break it up with whoever started it or whatever happened.

Speaker 1 1:22:04

Dude, the fault is totally on Iran.

Speaker 2 1:22:07

Yeah, so I think. Iran is paying the price right now for it. But I feel like at that point, that's just adding more fuel to the fire for Iran at that point, because they're going to be like well, there was no reason for the US, do you know?

Speaker 1 1:22:17

what Iran looks like. Yeah, it looks like crap now.

Speaker 2 1:22:20

It's crappy, is it?

Speaker 1 1:22:22

Yeah, is it? Yeah, they were talking about like buying the country and making it like a lot better so people can leave, like the US.

Speaker 2 1:22:30

We don't, we have like how much?

Speaker 1 1:22:32

money, is it Buy it and like fix it all up and make it into like a big resort country.

Speaker 2 1:22:37

We just need to fix America right now and not focus on other people. It's just like when they were giving money to Ukraine, like I'm america right now and not focus on other people. It's just like when they were giving money to ukraine like I'm sorry, why do we need to give how many billions of dollars to ukraine? And then you get people on tiktok from ukraine saying, like I just bought, you know, with the us governments, like I'm not even joking. There was a girl that literally is that war still going on?

Speaker 2 1:22:59

I think so I haven't been paying attention.

Speaker 4 1:23:00

I don't really know. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it is they have there?

Speaker 2 1:23:03

there's a girl on tiktok that like got called out and like, uh, the pen, and it followed a train down the line that because all the money that the us government was sending to them for like recovery or whatnot, um, she was spending it on like a new, new, like a new new car and like the equivalent of like a bugatti pretty much uh, over there in ukraine. And then she was like buying all these like fancy clothes and stuff like that and she's got like a fancy condo or whatever and it's like so our money can go towards that, but I can't afford an apartment as a us citizen. Why are we giving our money to these people? I'm sorry that their place got bombed by russia at that point I mean, you're talking about like three things there well, yeah, but like, like one.

Speaker 1 1:23:47

The person stole the money, so it didn't even make it to there and then why are we sending money in general? What do you mean? Stole the money?

Speaker 2 1:23:55

you just said she bought a car with it well, yeah, it's the money that the us gave to them. Asa, ukrainian citizen, and then she's oh, you can't.

Speaker 1 1:24:03

I thought it was a US citizen, no, ukrainian. I was confused, sorry.

Speaker 2 1:24:06

Ukrainian citizen. Yeah, she's sitting there and she's buying all this fancy crap.

Speaker 1 1:24:10

Well, yeah, we can't give them money and then tell them what they do with the money.

Speaker 2 1:24:13

No, but at the same time it's like I guess. Well, but at the same the shame, because again you have actual us citizens that can't even buy a house right now, like for me. I was told that I need over five thousand dollars to buy a house. Plus, like I mean, my credit limit is, or my credit uh score is like it's, it's better than what it was.

Speaker 1 1:24:34

Wait, five hundred thousand dollars, no, five thousand, oh yeah, no, I was like five hundred dude

Speaker 4 1:24:40

that's crazy. Sorry I got to turn this. Open your ears.

Speaker 2 1:24:44

But yeah, no, $5,000 as a first-time homeowner to purchase a house and I'm like, okay, cool, because I can come up with that overnight. And then at that point, you can no Dude are you a drug dealer.

Speaker 2 1:24:59

But that's the thing. I would have to work so much overtime for it. And if I'm really dedicated I'll do it. But at the same time it's like I shouldn't even have to do that, because back in the day, like I'm not saying to go back to like where you had to put $30 down as a down payment on a house, but like I think it should be zero.

Speaker 2 1:25:14

I would say yeah, as a first time homeowner. I think Sure, If you, if you sign up, you have or something like that, and then you just zero down payment. But it's not going to be a great three hundred thousand dollar house, but like you could get maybe something up to a hundred, to hundred and fifty thousand.

Speaker 4 1:25:29

yeah you say that, uh like, we're the generation that's not going to own houses no, we're definitely yeah, because we don't make enough money dude, do you think that america is just going to go down from here? Do you guys think that there's any hope for?

Speaker 2 1:25:46

The only way that it would be able to go up and we would be able to prosper is, I think, for one corporate companies need to stop being literally greedy with all their money.

Speaker 4 1:25:57

Well, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 1:25:59

But the thing is that is part of it. It's because, yeah, you own a multi Like Jeff Bezos with Amazon, right, there's no reason why he needs to have that much money and he can't pay people enough to even afford rent, you know what I mean? Like? And he's even running most of the joint with robots, and he has very minimal people. So why not pay the minimal people that are working there like maintaining the robots and like cleaning up stuff? Why not pay them more than what they're making right now, so they can afford at least a livable wage to live in a house, or an apartment, for that matter?

Speaker 4 1:26:32

Yeah, yeah, but billionaires have always existed and before, like, middle-class America could still afford a nice house.

Speaker 2 1:26:39

Yeah, but now it's becoming even more greedy at this point I mean to me at least, I mean hell. We just had it where at our store we found out our CEO just bought something like another boat or something like that. It's like why did you need to buy another boat when you have like two already? Why? Why do you need three?

Speaker 1 1:26:58

Yeah, I think it's going to end up like that.

Speaker 2 1:27:00

That's where it's stupid.

Speaker 1 1:27:01

There's going to end up like that. That's where it's stupid. There's going to be no middle class. It's only going to be the hierarchy of the richest people. Whatever Say it's 100,000, whatever it is, Then everybody else is just dirt poor.

Speaker 4 1:27:12

Yeah, so we're going to be dirt poor.

Speaker 1 1:27:14

Yeah, and I would even argue that they're going to make AI so good, oh.

Speaker 2 1:27:19

AI is terrifying.

Speaker 1 1:27:21

AI is going to be so good that literally just the government's going to give you money and then that's what you live on. And that's what you have and you're in houses, you kind of pay for your house.

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Speaker 2 1:27:32

But it's just all renting Duolingo.

Speaker 1 1:27:37

And you can't get out of that.

Speaker 2 1:27:38

What Did you hear about Duolingo with AI?

Speaker 1 1:27:40

No, what's?

Speaker 2 1:27:41

Duolingo. They're getting rid of all of their employees and they literally said ai first, so they're replacing all their actual national like people that speak whatever language you're trying to do. Lingo is an app that teaches you different languages, so my brother's using it for spanish right now, but he actually removed the app because of it, because they're literally firing every single employee and replacing them with ai.

Speaker 1 1:28:04

So well, yeah, because the ai learned our language, so we were giving them the information that they need, the ai needs, and then, once they have all the information that they need, they don't need people anymore right, but then that do it, then run the.

Speaker 2 1:28:18

What are we going to do? They're not, the government's not going to hand us like twenty thousand dollars and be like here's your monthly.

Speaker 1 1:28:23

I'm glad we're talking about this because, like literally I've I've thought about this the other day when I was ready to go to bed. Greatest ideas come before you sleep, right, um, and I was like man.

Speaker 1 1:28:34

What if they automated like a gas station? Right, so, you know in mcdonald's, you know in mcdonald's, I heard that. You know in mcdonald's, or in, uh, taco bell, they have like the self checkout. Okay, imagine that with a gas station. Now, people, there's nobody in the gas station, you don't even enter the gas station. Okay, you go up to this, this thing. You say, hey, I want a monster, I want a I don't know debbie's freaking donut. Whatever you, whatever you say, hey, I want this, this and this, guess what Robots. All the products are like on the ground or like refrigerated if it needs to be refrigerated and then the robots literally go like they're kind of like little.

Speaker 1 1:29:16

I've seen in a video like they're kind of like claws but they're like a little box thing and it goes over and it like picks up what you know, what you need, and then like it'll just drop it, right, but goes further than that if it runs out of like product, right. Say you have like 200 red bulls I don't know. Say you get down to 50, oh, it sends the order automatically. You don't need people to even get anything from a gas station anymore. Hey, guess what? It knows your age. Oh, you want alcohol. It knows what age you are because, like, it just takes a picture of you or you, you know your phone checks it out.

Speaker 2 1:29:51

They have a store like that already. Um, it's in california. It's like a I don't know what exactly it's called, but you just walk it. They have it in japan too, japan's way ahead of us and like well, yeah, that's kind of.

Speaker 2 1:30:03

I think china or japan was already, it is already doing this they have a store where you can walk in and there's no cashiers or staff or anything like that and I would say you don't even need to walk in you just you walk in and they have it where they have your bank information already in there and whatever you put in that cart, there's a sensor and it scans everything you put in and then tallies it up and you can just walk out the door.

Speaker 1 1:30:26

I'm saying you're not, you're not even walking in, like it's already grabbing everything for you. It's dropping in a drop box literally yeah, the drop box literally opens for you.

Speaker 4 1:30:37

You just take it out saying you're excited for this.

Speaker 1 1:30:40

No, I'm not excited for this because it takes a lot of jobs. And even further, like, say, it does a order, guess what? They grab that order. Same kind of robot thing it puts in a truck automatically. The automatic truck goes from there to the gas station, automatically, refills it.

Speaker 4 1:30:58

Everything is automated how far off do you think this is?

Speaker 1 1:31:01

20 years years.

Speaker 4 1:31:03

Yeah, I would say it's relatively close.

Speaker 1 1:31:06

Because, I think, they're already close in China for automated. Have you guys seen the automated cars? No, like moving of cars. Yeah, have you seen this? Okay, you have. Okay so it's these puck things that go underneath. I don't know if you call them a puck.

Speaker 2 1:31:22

I call them a call them I don't know.

Speaker 1 1:31:23

Like they're like a square thing that goes underneath and like say you go and park your car. Like say you lived here and you have a parking garage, so like you can just park your car, take the keys with you, come in here, you say, hey, my, my car's down there. These robots come, they go underneath your car without it on, they put the these things under the tires, lift it up, just enough to like move it and it parks it for you. And they're already doing this at china, in china and they have cars right now and it's freaking crazy so they're trying to develop it too.

Speaker 2 1:31:55

We're like how there's already kind of like the automated cars that like are like an uber service kind of thing, with like the 360 cameras above and whatever else they have. There's ones that elon's trying to do where it doesn't have like as big of equipment. Obviously on top, it's like all sensors all the way around the car and it's just like a rent thing where it's like your personal uber or grocery thing, where you just rent the car for like however long you're using it and it's electric, so it'll just they'll find a station to charge it at and stuff and you could just it's an app. You click like hey, I need to go to the store, let's, what's the next available car. The car will drive to your location through the GPS and it'll pick you up and you just obviously have to sit in the driver's seat at that point, cause I think they're still working it out where you have to have somebody at least behind the wheel for right now, until they like nail it down to a team where you don't need to have somebody behind the wheel and um, then you just tell it where to go and your gps there's some that there's some that you don't sit in the driver's seat yeah, you sit in the passenger seat

Speaker 2 1:32:57

it's crazy. And then, yeah, and then the funny part is I've seen videos where, like, something happens, like with an accident, and then it's like they blame. They try to blame the company, but then they ultimately try to blame the person that was sitting in the seat, because, because it's a person that they're like, well they should have been in the driver's seat. And it's like because at that point, if something fails, they can still manually put on the brakes, they can still manually turn the wheel and everything like that, or manually gas it?

Speaker 4 1:33:24

I don't think. Well, if they're going to be controlled, there's not going to be a wheel.

Speaker 1 1:33:28

No, well, it'll just be like an internal steering mechanism when yeah when are you going to get to the point where people aren't driving? Then you'd have to have it where all the cars are talking to each other I would say the trucks are talking to each other 15, 20 years at years at that point, because they're still working on like.

Speaker 1 1:33:45

I would say longer. You would have to have the whole generation. Because I like driving. Yeah Right, we like driving. I think the generation after us is so enamored by automation and technology that they're fine with not even driving, but we aren't. So I think they have to wait until we die. Pretty much I would think so, even driving, but like we aren't, so I think they have to wait until we die, pretty much, I would say.

Speaker 4 1:34:07

At least get to that point then even too. It's like what's going to happen to people once ai takes over that is.

Speaker 1 1:34:11

That's why I'm saying the middle class is going to shrink and there's literally going to have nobody, and everybody else at the top has all the money when you know, too, that there's an ai that's refusing to shut itself off right now and it's already tried to like pull some sketchy crap.

Speaker 2 1:34:24

It's I, I think it's like with like files and stuff.

Speaker 4 1:34:26

It's like it's funny that there's been so many movies in the past about this kind of black mirror have you ever seen the? Netflix series black yeah, some of them.

Speaker 1 1:34:34

Which one are you talking about?

Speaker 2 1:34:35

there's there's like an episode of black mirror on netflix.

Speaker 1 1:34:38

That like seen all of them.

Speaker 2 1:34:39

I forget what episode is, but there's like there's one with AI, where it literally takes over and it's like the humans just don't have anything to do at this point, and so it's like then it becomes like an uproar and all this other crap, and then it ends up turning against the humans, which I can see.

Speaker 2 1:34:54

I'm like, because right now again you have like AI that are refusing to shut off. There's even robots that they've built in the past that have like been, I guess, prototype AI. And they robots that they've built in the past that have like been, I guess, prototype ai, and they've talked into a different language that nobody can actually understand, like it's not like spanish or anything like that that we know are an old language. That's code. It's like code and they were talking about like the extinction of humans and stuff like that. So it's like okay, cool. So we have ai already talking about offing all the humans. And then we have it where again ai is trying to take over everything. Like you got restaurants and automobiles, you even got like just even computer games and even tiktok.

Speaker 1 1:35:35

Now I mean imagine if they just said hey, we're gonna blow up all the phones and kill everybody that has a they could do that right now if they wanted to.

Speaker 2 1:35:42

Even siri, I would as. Ai at this point.

Speaker 4 1:35:45

That would be crazy.

Speaker 2 1:35:46

Like on iPhone and whatnot, like Caleb's getting tired, he's getting tired, I've been tired. What time is it? It's only 340.

Speaker 4 1:35:54

Yeah, I know I'm just. I yawn and it's like oh, caleb's tired.

Speaker 1 1:35:58

Oh yeah, we got to go to Betty by.

Speaker 4 1:36:07

I'm just gonna buy. No, I'm going to the gym um, oh yeah, getting swell cool yeah, you're going climbing.

Speaker 2 1:36:10

Yeah, you're not going with me. Why did it sound like an?

Speaker 1 1:36:12

insult.

Speaker 4 1:36:12

Yeah, you're going to want to go with me I don't know, I was gonna go and upload this episode as soon as we get done with this okay yeah anyways, we were talking about yeah, yeah

Speaker 2 1:36:21

it's just, it's terrifying and how, and I've shown you videos on TikTok. It sounds weird, but they have a Bigfoot preaching the word of gospel what, yeah, it's called Preachfoot, preachfoot, yeah, and then they have ones that are cooking with Bigfoot and it's like he teaches you and shows you how to make actual gourmet meals and stuff and it looks real as heck. It's crazy on how like ai has just gotten and it's like a new google. Ai too that's the other part is like google's gotten way more advanced. Like I miss when ai used to be well, like you could tell it was fake and it was really bad, but now even videos dude yeah well.

Speaker 2 1:36:59

So here's an example right now.

Speaker 1 1:37:01

So videos, yeah, there's yeah videos and stuff like the videos that are going to be fake people.

Speaker 2 1:37:05

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:37:05

Like it's going to be so hard to discern who is real people and not For me it kind of already is sometimes yeah, I'm like, is this real or?

Speaker 2 1:37:11

not Right, because on the news too, you can manipulate the crap out of something Like they can make Trump look like a bad guy and they can make Biden a hero, or vice versa. They could make anybody make anything.

Speaker 4 1:37:23

That's how I think that the world ends is they're going to come up with some fake catastrophe with AI, and people are just going to go crazy.

Speaker 2 1:37:32

You see they're trying to push another variant of COVID again and some other crap. That's happened. They said the plague is coming back. There was five people that already died in. Where was it? It was somewhere in the United States.

Speaker 1 1:37:46

But Jersey.

Speaker 2 1:37:47

I think what I have a friend in new jersey so there's like five people that died of what.

Speaker 1 1:37:51

They're not even saying what kind of plague it is.

Speaker 2 1:37:53

They're not saying the black plague or whatever, they're just calling it. They died of a plague and it's like cool. Usually a plague means that like a lot of people, a lot, not just five, but a lot of people, a lot, not just five, but a lot of people have died from this and have COVID. When that was a thing, apparently the hospitals were all full and everything like that. But then you get videos of some hospitals and they have nobody in there. It's like hmm, was COVID really that bad?

Speaker 2 1:38:22

I hope plagues don't take us out as a human race at this point, that'd be pretty terrible. A zombie apocalypse is an order.

Speaker 1 1:38:28

Do you think we're gonna recognize, though, that? Do you think we're gonna recognize that?

Speaker 4 1:38:34

uh, that ai is like taking over and we're just gonna stop using it I think yes and no depends on the person, because there could be some people because there's other countries that won't stop like if we like.

Speaker 1 1:38:45

I'm pretty sure a lot of people in america want to stop ai yeah but china and russia are going to be like no well, what if they keep on researching ai and keep on researching stuff, but like, as far as like our phones and other technology stuff. We just stopped doing it because we realized it's changing us.

Speaker 4 1:39:08

You really think that's going to happen? They're going to get rid of phones and AI. I don't, no, I don't think that they're going to do that no. I think they're going to keep going.

Speaker 2 1:39:16

They have to because at this point AI they said, oh, it's done all these helpful things, it's discovered how to do x, y and z, whatever, and then they're not really pointing out all the bad stuff, like my news source, as dumb as it sounds, is like tiktok and like some other stuff, because you don't hear about it on fox news yeah, that's true, you know.

Speaker 1 1:39:35

It's like you don't hear them talking. Do you hear them talking about ai at? All no, does it ever? I don't really watch it like I watch news max, and they don't actually really talk about it either. No Technology stuff.

Speaker 2 1:39:47

Daily Mail and everything else. That's not really news, though.

Speaker 4 1:39:49

I don't know if it's it is news but it's not what you don't think AI is news.

Speaker 1 1:39:54

I think it's news, but it's not like.

Speaker 4 1:39:57

Trump is like news.

Speaker 3 1:39:59

Yeah, it's not like breaking news.

Speaker 1 1:39:59

More government stuff is more news than like ai itself is kind of off left field.

Speaker 4 1:40:05

You know left field yeah, but I mean I think I think a lot of people know that ai is bad, but they can't stop because nobody's.

Speaker 2 1:40:15

It's kind of like the nuclear bomb yeah, like they don't.

Speaker 4 1:40:18

We don't want to have nuclear weapons, but we're not going to get rid of them, because if we get rid of them and then russia's the only country with nuclear bombs.

Speaker 1 1:40:25

There's some AI that like, hey, it makes our life better. Like all this automation that I was talking about, you could not do that and it wouldn't affect China. Like same thing with our phone. Like that doesn't really affect us with China. Because China might be able to do automation faster and manufacturing faster than us but then you also have it yeah but they're still doing it like the government is still doing that behind the, behind the.

Speaker 2 1:40:51

You know, veil, you know if you do think about it too, think about how terrifying ai can be is what happens if, like the government's really trusting with this ai and like they got nuclear weapons that are just on a computer, that are one button press away or one program away from launching, and if they decide to go with this whole, blow up the earth thing I'm saying yeah, they're still defending that stuff and they have like, they're still making drones, making better, better things for the military, or like defense wise, but they're not like you know, like our phone isn't.

Speaker 1 1:41:27

I don't know like we stopped making like tiktok and facebook and all that. We just stopped doing that.

Speaker 2 1:41:34

We'd just go back revert back to 1995 how did you see how it was like when tiktok was like shut down permanently and like people were ben and jerry's the imagine if they just let a march, just shut it yeah, yeah, just shut it down.

Speaker 1 1:41:49

Just figure it out, like people have to figure it out, sorry, yeah, like we're shutting down facebook, we're shutting down well meta, you're shutting down media everything shut down.

Speaker 2 1:41:58

Yeah, I think it's ruined a lot.

Speaker 4 1:41:59

I think so yeah, I think we would survive without it I think, it'd be like at first.

Speaker 1 1:42:03

I think we'd survive, but at the first like month would be hit like not good I tell you what you know dating would probably be, a lot easier word, but yeah I think the first month would be that.

Speaker 4 1:42:13

But then when people start going back to talking to, each other and forming real relationships, and not well seeing.

Speaker 2 1:42:20

Text and call is still there, but yeah, at the same time, like you're not like on bumble or tinder or anything like that, like just swiping through pictures like you're gonna have to get that out to maybe google.

Speaker 4 1:42:32

Hey, speaking of dating apps, do you think dating apps are ruining dating? Yeah that's something we didn't talk about on the last episode with andy, but now you're here yeah, we can get some classic.

Speaker 1 1:42:41

Oh wait, you did or you didn't did not.

Speaker 4 1:42:43

We were going to, but then did you listen to that episode at all?

Speaker 1 1:42:46

I did not I am I just listened to our last flannel, which was in february so dude you are, so I am I am 200. I looked the other day I'm 200 podcasts behind this guy yep, I should be.

Speaker 4 1:43:01

This podcast should be your number one. I can't believe you.

Speaker 1 1:43:04

I know get out I I listen to seven podcasts, so I know I can't keep up.

Faith, Cultural Pressures & Final Thoughts

Speaker 4 1:43:11

Do you listen to all of joe rogan's?

Speaker 1 1:43:15

no, there's certain ones I don't like, sometimes the fighting ones, I don't listen to, because I think they're just dumb.

Speaker 4 1:43:20

Besides the fighting ones, do you listen to all the other ones?

Speaker 1 1:43:23

um yeah, except for sometimes. Who's that guy? Is it duncan trussell? Yeah, I think I just don't like the guys that when he dresses up and stuff yeah, that's duncan.

Speaker 4 1:43:32

Yeah, yeah, I don't like that guy either I don't know why I don't even listen to it anymore.

Speaker 1 1:43:37

Nice uh, what were we talking about?

Speaker 4 1:43:39

oh, yeah, yeah, uh, dating, yeah, so dating apps uh, do you guys think that online dating apps have made your dating experience better, worse, or stay the same?

Speaker 1 1:43:49

Worse. They're bad for men, they're good for women.

Speaker 2 1:43:52

I mean you can kind of argue with Are you going to back that claim up? Yeah, because I think it was the way you looked at it.

Speaker 1 1:44:02

You got to back that up so for men, I think it just downgrades you, because like you don't get any, like you don't get any dates as a guy yeah, I mean, I have I mean one to two percent of people that you hit up are probably gonna girls that you at least. I'm talking guys to girls and girls guys, as far as that's concerned, but so I I think that the percent you, the amount you have to put out to, even like, get on a date, let alone actually get to a relationship, yeah um, where girls I feel like dude they could, they could get on there and I think within 10 they could probably get one date yeah, yeah is that a fair assessment?

Speaker 4 1:44:53

I'll say as well for me, like I hear that these guys can't get dates, but I've always gotten dates on the online dating apps and the way that I do it is, I don't look at you you're beautiful. No, I'm not. I am not like, I am not in the.

Speaker 2 1:45:08

I mean look at you look at me okay bro look at me I could lift my shirt into the truffle shuffle right now and he actually has?

Speaker 1 1:45:15

well, not quite yet.

Speaker 4 1:45:16

But um, anyways, you are talking to a gal yeah, you're talking kind of, so you're almost there I'll say, though, before, like the way the what works and nobody listens. As I say, all you have to do is the first message hey, we should go out oh, I agree, but guys don't do that, yeah, so it's kind of it's kind of their fault too. They just like talk and be like oh my gosh, that's so funny yeah, I've done that a lot, your profile, it's so funny.

Speaker 1 1:45:39

I can, I can agree, I like your profile it doesn't have to do with China. I've done that on dating apps, where you just talk back and forth for like a day, two days and then you're like oh, yep and then that's over. Yeah, they get bored.

Speaker 4 1:45:53

Whereas if you just get straight to the point and set the date, usually you'll be able to go on it.

Speaker 1 1:45:57

Yeah.

Speaker 4 1:45:57

But I will say, like, the amount of matches I get are low.

Speaker 2 1:46:07

And the matches I get are low, and the matches that I do get are generally low quality. I have a question not gonna call them ugly, because that's mean. What is this he missed? I just noticed that there's a chord dangly.

Speaker 4 1:46:12

I don't know that is to my pedal board, so it doesn't even matter, okay cool.

Speaker 2 1:46:16

I was like I just felt a chord that I was playing with because I thought it was this for a second and I was like oh, this is unplugged yep, unplugged, but we can all hear each other and this is still going.

Speaker 1 1:46:26

This is still going so that's, that's how I back up that, that yeah, and I've heard that on. I mean I just lost watch a lot of relationship reels, so I mean that's kind of just from that I agree because even though I've gone on dates, like I said I, I don't get a lot of matches.

Speaker 4 1:46:47

Gone on dates, like I said I, I don't get a lot of matches, it's maybe like a couple a day, whereas women are, they don't even they, they can't even pick who to go on a date with because they have so many matches right, yeah, guys, hitting them up.

Speaker 2 1:46:55

Ultimately, at the end of the day, it is the female that makes the decision of whether it's worth it or not to go out with that person at the end of the day.

Speaker 4 1:47:03

well, there's day To be honest if girls could get married.

Speaker 2 1:47:06

I feel like it's more rare for a guy.

Speaker 1 1:47:09

I think girls could probably get married a lot easier if they chose middle-of-the-line guys.

Speaker 4 1:47:16

Do you agree, like us.

Speaker 1 1:47:21

Like Caleb, we're below Caleb.

Speaker 2 1:47:27

Stop selling yourself so short. You've got to have that confidence boost, bro. Yeah.

Speaker 4 1:47:32

You have zero confidence sitting on the other side of this table.

Speaker 1 1:47:36

I'm saying like six to eight range.

Speaker 4 1:47:39

I don't know, I might fall in that you don't think you're at least a six? Yeah?

Speaker 1 1:47:43

maybe, maybe I don't know.

Speaker 4 1:47:44

I don't think you're at least a six. Yeah, maybe I don't know, I don't know. I know Stefan thinks he's at least a seven right.

Speaker 2 1:47:50

I would say at least a seven. There you go.

Speaker 1 1:47:52

Actually, right now, since I've got Wait, you'd say you're a seven.

Speaker 2 1:47:54

I would say I'm a seven.

Speaker 1 1:47:56

Or you'd say I'm a seven.

Speaker 2 1:47:57

I mean I would say you're like a negative seven, but like no, I would say from like, just like from a guy's perspective of like how I know you and stuff, from the interactions that we have, I would say like you're a solid like seven or eight, if I'm honest with you.

Speaker 4 1:48:14

Oh yeah, I put myself in the same category.

Speaker 2 1:48:16

Yeah, Like I'm not. I've written. Nobody's a perfect 10 out of 10 or anything like that, but like dude no 10 is a.

Speaker 4 1:48:27

10 is like rosy, that's like zach afron before he got all that surgery right chris hemsworth chris hemsworth, solid 10 yep, uh, yeah, it'd be like jack shepherd yeah, terry cruz, the guys that you like, there's like influencers who just have like that jawline, like that would be a 10.

Speaker 1 1:48:42

But anyways, I think girls like really go for that top 10. They die way too much.

Speaker 4 1:48:48

They see, the guys on instagram and those are like instagram is only showing us, like, what the top one percent of influencers who are like the best looking have the best quality, yeah and so, yeah, they do go for those ones and, like, those guys have a bunch of options too.

Speaker 1 1:49:05

So, like, all these girls are going for them to be honest, sometimes I don't even, I don't even like the ones that are like really beautiful, like the top, like nine tens, just because I just I don't know, I just don't think that I would go out with them.

Speaker 3 1:49:20

So I like go for the like six to eight. It's intimidating. It's not intimidating for me, bit I would say it is.

Speaker 2 1:49:28

I think a little bit, bro, if I had a girl that was like a 10 out of 10 looking at me and everything like that and I'm just like, why do I look like chris?

Speaker 4 1:49:35

I'm not putting myself down intentionally, but like I just like I'm a chris farley compared to like this uh, maryland monroe, you know if if a quote-unquote 10 out of 10 girl was looking at me and wanted to go on a date, I would go out and I wouldn't be more like.

Speaker 1 1:49:52

I just assume that they've been out with a lot of guys, so I wouldn't like them I mean as in like having sex yeah yeah, I just assume that they've been with a lot of guys and they're yeah, wow.

Speaker 4 1:50:06

I mean, is that shallow? That's very direct. That's a pretty judgmental statement there, Ethan.

Speaker 1 1:50:12

Yeah. But, is it Like oh hi, beautiful.

Speaker 4 1:50:15

But is it? You must have slept with 50 guys, sorry.

Speaker 1 1:50:18

Is it possible that it's true? Yeah.

Speaker 4 1:50:20

It's possible that it's true.

Speaker 1 1:50:29

But it true.

Speaker 4 1:50:29

Yeah, it's possible that it's true, but it's also possible that you could get, is it pretty high a possibility that? It's true there's I would say it's a pretty high possibility. It's true that whales have slept with a lot of guys too.

Speaker 3 1:50:36

Yeah, yeah, because there's that uh, there's like a thing we're talking very worldly yeah, it is talking very worldly, but it's also, it is it is worldly

Speaker 1 1:50:45

yeah, but it also is true yeah, I mean yeah, you don't really know, unless you go on a date I guess yeah and you got to find that out sometimes that that that can take some time to figure out.

Speaker 4 1:51:00

That too yeah, because when do you ask that?

Speaker 1 1:51:02

yeah, do you ask for sing?

Speaker 4 1:51:03

so many guys have you. But the problem too. The problem too is, even though it's like worldly, there has been like girls in church who've also slept with a lot of guys and vice versa.

Speaker 3 1:51:13

Different breed yes, we talked about that on the last episode, so we don't need to get too into it, but they're different.

Speaker 4 1:51:20

We could also go down like what you think of that um and vice versa. There's also been a lot of guys at church, too, who have also slept with a lot of girls, so it's like I guess you could say it's worldly thinking, but at the same time it's like it's happening in the majority of churches too. They're just not really like. They're not wearing their body count on their sleeve.

Speaker 1 1:51:40

Right.

Speaker 2 1:51:50

Like they do, like the, the whatever podcast, whatever it's called, right where they're like almost bragging about it, but women in church are keeping it on the down low. They have to have that moral of I'm a good christian woman and I'm saving myself for marriage kind of thing, or for the right one at that, at the very least yeah, but they're keeping it on the down low yeah, and then they find out later yeah, but yeah, you've

Speaker 1 1:52:06

kind of been lying to them, which is also a sin you are right.

Speaker 2 1:52:09

But like are you gonna? Because you can.

Speaker 2 1:52:12

You can argue the same thing, with like a guy and a girl perspective on even like sex at that point that we kind of talked about. Just touch base on that is like you could have a girl that sleeps with like 50 guys but like she's probably the most loyal girl out there and the guys are players, and same thing with a guy. You can meet a guy that's like slept with 50 women but he could be like the most loyal guy too out there. But then you get a girl that's virgin and you're like I don't want to touch that because she's virgin, she's unexperienced, but a girl will also do the same thing to a guy.

Speaker 1 1:52:38

Oh, he hasn't gotten any, so I'm not gonna go with that I think the assessment is wrong, but I I'm not trying to be like well, I'll say this, mean I think I think it's kylie.

Speaker 2 1:52:49

My first ex did not want to originally date me because she found out that I was virgin yeah, but that, yes, but that's the guy.

Speaker 4 1:52:57

Wouldn't you call that a worldly relationship?

Speaker 2 1:53:00

maybe nowadays, now that I think about it more, you're going to tell me that it was a Christian church-filled relationship.

Speaker 1 1:53:07

No.

Speaker 2 1:53:07

I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 1:53:08

Wait, yes, I agree with you. Okay, I agree with half your statement. Yeah, that girl to guy. It is way more valuable that you actually had sex with like at least five women, Right, I don't know why that is.

Speaker 4 1:53:21

Yeah, you're not arguing for what should be. You're arguing for what is right, huh? You're not arguing for what should be.

Speaker 1 1:53:33

You're arguing for what is so like. Women shouldn't think that way, but they do. Yeah, I'm saying yeah, they do too.

Speaker 2 1:53:36

But well, no with guys, no because guys is more valuable for them to be a virgin way more a guy to be virgin no, a girl to be a virgin well, I mean yeah, but like, even if like again, that's where my statement comes in is like, if you've even slept with, like, if you're a girl and you slept with two guys at that point or whatever, because you went into a relationship, you thought it was like the same kind of thing, it was a great one. And then you meet another guy who, yeah, maybe he slept with a couple, and then he finds out that she's only slept with two people. He's going to be like, okay, yeah, she's experienced, but I'm not 100% sure. Or he's going to be like, no, she's already used up at that point. But the virgin thing too is some guys are very picky and they're just like you don't know what you're doing. I dated a virgin.

Speaker 1 1:54:21

Most guys don't care if they have zero experience.

Speaker 2 1:54:24

I know that because they're not thinking with the right head at that point, they're thinking with another head too. It's not just like one head versus the other, it's it's both. They're thinking with that. I have that.

Speaker 4 1:54:34

Like as cringes it sounds. I have yet to meet a guy that did not want a virgin woman.

Speaker 2 1:54:39

Yeah.

Speaker 4 1:54:47

So what he's saying is like women don't judge men the same way that men judge women. Yeah, so men, men will judge women based on how many people they've slept with. Yeah, and look at it as a downside whereas women.

Speaker 1 1:54:54

Look at how many men or how many women the guy has slept with, but look at as an upside I got yeah because primal brain thinking with women are like okay, he slept with a lot of women so he must be a player, he must be like something, he must have something that I want, yes, right now, I'm not saying that's the way that it should be, I'm just saying right what is so I'm not arguing that that should be correct.

Speaker 1 1:55:19

I'm just saying that is correct because that's how yeah, and then if it's reversed, the guy is like a virgin and the girl has slept with like, let's just say, even five. He looks at her kind of like well yeah, she's a hoe like you're. You're kind of a throwaway trash bag, I don't know.

Speaker 4 1:55:37

Like that's kind of gross yeah like I mean yeah, I, I'm not saying I'm saying that You're arguing for what it is.

Speaker 1 1:55:46

You're not arguing for what should be. I mean, unfortunately, that's just how it goes Now, if you get over 200, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 1:55:52

Yeah, but even too. There are some guys I don't know if this really goes in for it too, but like there are some guys I don't know how they are, but like I've been with a girl that's had a kid like, so what do you think about that wise, like if you've already had a kid, kind of thing, like because that also has a factor, I feel like to a degree I don't know.

Speaker 4 1:56:12

I feel like the church is always trying to push, like, oh, you gotta love her anyway. As a single mom, it's like no, I don't know same thing with like how I would run, to be honest if a girl had a kid.

Speaker 2 1:56:23

I just don't, I don't want to be put.

Speaker 1 1:56:24

If a girl had a kid. I just don't. I don't want to be put in that position Because think about it from the kid's perspective.

Speaker 2 1:56:30

Stepdaddy Ethan Exactly.

Speaker 1 1:56:33

Stepdad. Yeah, I mean, then the kid has two dads. It's awkward. I don't want to get into that. I don't know.

Speaker 4 1:56:42

It's so hard. I would want to know in depth, like the divorce story, like why did you get a divorce, how long has it been? And even after that it's like I still don't really want to take on someone else's kid yeah, it's so much harder yeah, it's just. It's just harder because that kid's got to get accustomed to you and it can happen over years, but it's just not an easy.

Speaker 1 1:57:08

The former dad could be a jerk.

Speaker 2 1:57:10

Could be a psycho, but then that would be your time though, to step in and be like hey, I'm a cool dad.

Speaker 1 1:57:16

Yeah, what if he?

Speaker 2 1:57:16

wants to kill you. I'll tell you this much, I will say from experience I almost did date a girl. Her name was Elizabeth and she was in uh, where was it? What state was she in? I don't know it was. It was like probably a four hour, five hour difference or whatever. And she had two kids. One was like my nephew's age and then my niece's age like toddler whatever at the time. And so I was like you know, I honestly I don't have kids of my own, but I have a niece and nephew. So I mean, like, as long as they're cool and they'd be all right with that, like eventually mean them seeing each other and this works out, then cool. And then she, as soon as we were about to meet, and I was gonna go meet halfway with her, um she's a kid with you.

Speaker 2 1:57:57

No, she told me that her ex-husband, that she was in the process of divorcing at that time, which she failed to mention.

Speaker 1 1:58:05

Um was very. That's another thing. That was very. That's incorrect.

Speaker 2 1:58:09

And don't tell you fast enough wait till you're fully divorced and then do it. But that that was the thing is like she told me that, like he's very protective of her still, even though he cheated on her and is getting married to another girl. He doesn't want anybody touching his ex-wife, and it's like that's not how the real world works he's just messy right and so it's like, and then at that point I told her I said, yeah, I, I'm gonna have to pass on that.

Speaker 2 1:58:30

Like I appreciate you for telling me eventually, but at the same time, if you would have told me at the beginning, like I still would have probably been friends with you something like that, maybe if it was like two years after a divorce yeah, maybe the guy was like pretty far out of the way, and then yeah, but the child is maybe six.

Speaker 4 1:58:49

People get divorced and then they're like used to that married life, so they're trying to fill that void right away yeah, it's rebounded true and I think that's why the bible is so strict on divorce, is because, like, look at how messy they always are yeah even like before, during and after the divorce. It's like there's a reason why he says to stay together. Yeah, I think. Obviously there are circumstances where it's just what if?

Speaker 1 1:59:14

instead of a divorce. We didn't have divorce anymore we just killed him. Yes, and one of the person had to die. Like, imagine if it was like that.

Speaker 2 1:59:25

Whoever makes the lowest income.

Speaker 4 1:59:29

Whoever has more speeding tickets.

Speaker 1 1:59:32

You go to court for a death sentence.

Speaker 2 1:59:35

That's crazy.

Speaker 1 1:59:36

You go to court and you say which one is the worst you have the most information about the other person.

Speaker 4 1:59:41

I bet women would still get the divorce. Hold on, you think? Yeah, I think they'd be like I don't know.

Speaker 1 1:59:46

There's some jerk women out there that you can get a lot of information, if you try. Yeah, but here's the thing I think it's all not brought to the court Because guys want to protect them and they have that protective instinct and they just don't want to record all of that.

Speaker 2 2:00:00

But those jerk women also get alimony, they get custody of the kids and they get like a bunch of other benefits that the guys don't.

Speaker 1 2:00:07

It is yeah, because I think the guys aren't bringing the information to the court right.

Speaker 2 2:00:11

But the guy can have all the proof he wants and the court's still going to side with the woman because she's a woman divorce courts usually side with that bad yeah, it's really that bad yeah.

Speaker 4 2:00:20

Why do you think most? Why do you think most divorces are caused by the women? Why do you think because they know they're going to get the most out of why?

Speaker 1 2:00:26

do you think the marriage rate is going down because?

Speaker 4 2:00:28

of that, because of that, because people don't want to get divorced yeah, it's like that's crazy there's less divorces in america now because there's less marriages happening.

Speaker 2 2:00:36

There would be a guy there, there are guys out there that, like they know that their, their wife is cheating on them it is what's happening.

Speaker 1 2:00:43

I know it's a true statistic.

Speaker 2 2:00:44

There's guys that know that their wife is cheating on them and whatnot, and they've been married for maybe 20, 30 years and they're like I'm not going to get a divorce, so I'm just going to let her do it, even though I know, and I'm just going to pretend like everything's fine. I couldn't do that, though.

Speaker 1 2:00:58

No, I wouldn't be what if it wasn't a court thing where they just like well, they fought and one died.

Speaker 4 2:01:06

Like where you get to go in the boxing ring and spar with each other. Yeah, I don't know, that'd be fun.

Speaker 1 2:01:14

No but that's you just get to kill your spouse if they're freaking crazy.

Speaker 2 2:01:17

You know, in like traditional other places like Africa, for example, like if your husband or wife, I think it's if the husband dies, the wife is supposed to be. I don't know if they do it anymore, but it was something that I learned um a while ago, but basically it's a tradition and tribes you marry, you marry the brother, no you oh you.

Speaker 1 2:01:37

That's actually as the woman.

Speaker 2 2:01:38

If your husband dies or something happens, wise, you're supposed like they float his body on fire in a casket. And you're supposed you either choose, you get uh, was it exiled from the tribe that you're in, if you don't choose to burn alive with your husband in the casket, regardless of how old or young you are why did you bring that up? That's crazy well, because of the whole thing where it's just like, you know how it seems like it was saying you want that to happen here.

Speaker 2 2:02:06

It made more sense of the context way earlier before we went into like how?

Speaker 4 2:02:09

the women get more like benefits after a divorce Sounds like they don't really get the benefits in that.

Speaker 2 2:02:14

No not in that, but like there's different parts of the world, it's because of dedication towards the other, the other person there, essentially it would yeah person there essentially it would yeah, there was something we were talking about earlier where it made way more sense before now that's okay.

Speaker 2 2:02:26

I do that all the time I talk about stuff like way bad but like that's how messed up that area is and it's like I don't feel like that's fair to the women, just like it's not fair to the men in this case. For why? Why does the women automatically get the right to have the kids, or alimony, or everything?

Speaker 2 2:02:41

dude, I would be so angry I would too, like if I was a good husband and like father and whatnot. And then I found out, like if I got divorced and my wife was getting like half the house and she was getting like half my income and I was gonna have to pay child support on top of that like, and. But I was the one that watched the kids all day after I got out of work and she just went home and partied and did whatever and it was proven like the court's still going to find it in her favor because she's I think they're making it harder, though, to get 100 custody hopefully, I think it's more like a 50, 50 like three and four, three days and four days.

Speaker 1 2:03:17

Obviously they can't split it. Well, right, exactly middle.

Speaker 2 2:03:20

But with my brother being divorced. He's obviously taking care of his kids full-time and still worked full-time, and the wife has not or the ex-wife she just hasn't really done. I mean, she does still take her kids every now and again, but she doesn't do anything full-time with them yeah and I don't think she wanted to, if I'm honest with you. So I don't know 100 well, it's said yeah, but that's just what I go off with what I see visually.

Speaker 2 2:03:48

So I know that she loves her kids and whatnot, but at the same time it's like you're not wanting to take care of them full-time or help contribute to the family at that point, to that extent of full-time. So my brother said he could go for child support if he wanted to, but he's not going to. Yeah, so I'm like at that point I feel like maybe he should, I for child support if he wanted to, but he's not going to.

Speaker 1 2:04:05

Yeah.

Speaker 2 2:04:05

So I'm like at that point I feel like Maybe he should.

Speaker 1 2:04:08

I don't feel like there's he should.

Speaker 4 2:04:09

Yeah, he should.

Speaker 1 2:04:10

I think in his case currently, right now, he should, because he could be getting more income coming in the house and not, you know, I don't get how they made this rule of like if you're the full-time worker, that all of a sudden, since you're the breadwinner, the other person yeah you have to pass, yeah you, you have to pay for, but then also they get the kids. It's like that's crazy yeah it's dumb, be like wait. I support this.

Speaker 2 2:04:32

So I then I get no benefit, zero benefit, right zero well, because that's what happened with my dad when my parents got divorced too is like my dad had to pay child support up until we were 18 years old, and it's like he had to work like two, three jobs just to be able to do that, and it's just like, yeah, he I mean, we only saw him like two days a week, and that was on saturday and sunday, and that was every other saturday and sunday too yeah so twice a month we got to see our dad pretty much if you're just counting the two days as one whole thing I think it's.

Speaker 1 2:04:59

It's also sad, like when women want the kids but then they just go out and party so it's like you ruined actually like three lives. You ruined the husbands, and then you ruined also the kids because they're not getting taken care of and hers technically, yeah, and you're ruining and yourself yeah like that's so, and everyone around you has to hear about your ex-husband 24 7 he's such a jerk like people that say that I'm just like you should really look in a mirror. Yeah, he's such a um, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 2:05:33

But why do you think women are always filing for divorce? Because they say they're never happy 70 of women in a relationship have a backup plan and 50% of them who are married have a backup plan Like a guy they know.

Speaker 1 2:05:49

Cause they definitely aren't loyal. I guess that's what it sounds like, I feel. I mean, that sounds like a loyalty accountability on the guy's part.

Speaker 2 2:05:56

Yes.

Speaker 4 2:05:57

Let's go down that route, cause I think, like a lot of women, even women, cause like guys always complain, like women only want the rich guys, but then they're cheating on the rich guys like some hot dude who might not have that much money right so I think, like a lot of times, guys, when they're like obsessed with something like football, like they have their man cave or whatever, and they they put that first, or they're always watching tv, like they come to a point where, like the guy gets too complacent in life and I think the women kind of start to fall out of love with them. Well, yeah, is that fair if you're just sitting.

Speaker 2 2:06:32

Here's the thing I would say it's fair at at one point. If, if you've had multiple talks with the husband about like hey, you're watching too much tv, you're not spending time with me or just me and the kids, depending on what their situation is with their family and he still refuses to do it and he's just on the tv again, then yeah, I would say at that point fair game is fair game because he's not putting in the effort to like try to help fix not only himself but the family.

Speaker 2 2:06:58

At that point, yeah I mean he chose that commitment with you. Know you may kiss the bride till death, do us part kind of thing. You're not contributing to the marriage or anything like that. So if you're not going to try when it's been talked to you on multiple occasions then yeah then game is game at that point. But if you don't talk about it and you're just cheating or doing whatever at that point, then no, then that's not fair game at that point, because then later on, after you're like well, I found out that you're.

Speaker 2 2:07:31

Cheating is ever fair game, it's not, but, but maybe leaving like breaking up, or yeah, cheating is never fair game, I mean I would say cheating in the event that it's like a domestic violence issue at that point, and then that way you can just kind of get out the door if you found somebody better.

Speaker 1 2:07:41

Wrong doesn't equal another wrong, though I like.

Speaker 2 2:07:44

I know, but it's like there's certain great you get out of the door first, and then you go and have a relationship with somebody else I think I don't know why we do.

Speaker 1 2:07:52

I don't know. I don't even know how that's like my mindset.

Speaker 2 2:07:54

I don't know why, I don't know. I know we're talking about marriage, but my mindset I think it just went to like if you're dating at that then break up with them.

Speaker 4 2:08:01

It's even easier yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 2:08:02

You could just literally like end it right yeah, and then go out with somebody else especially, oh yeah, people that have two. They're dating two people at the same time. How do you do that? I?

Speaker 2 2:08:11

hate that I'm like I don't get how people date multiple people at once and then come up with like oh, I actually like this guy, like the bachelor, you know, like there's seven women.

Speaker 3 2:08:20

I know it's. I know it's fake.

Speaker 2 2:08:22

But it's like you know you have like 12 women that you're seeing all at once and it's like that is too confusing for me, like because you get a different vibe off each woman. And then it's like, even with the bachelorette you got like 12 guys and you're trying to get a vibe off them and it's like that's just weird. I'm sorry, that's player attitude right there.

Speaker 1 2:08:40

A hundred percent, like for me yeah, why do you think they never make it exactly um, but to answer your question. Finally, to answer your question, I I agree with what stefan said. It's like it's all back to communication, because you can have that on either side either the guy side, like literally doing nothing for the relationship. Or you can have the woman. That's like I'm just sitting here amazon and ordering stuff doing nothing you know?

Speaker 4 2:09:08

yeah, I'm just talking from the point of view that, like, more times the woman is cheating, more times the woman is filing for divorce, and I think it's because the men are doing stupid stuff like watching tv and they're not spending quality time with her. And then the time that they are spending they're like watching TV and they're not spending quality time with her, and then the time that they are spending they're like on their phones. Both parties could be on their phones.

Speaker 1 2:09:29

Yeah, but that's also women thinking that they're communicating with their man. But they're communicating either wrongly or they're not communicating.

Speaker 4 2:09:37

What do you mean?

Speaker 1 2:09:38

Either they're communicating not how a guy would like to them, in that way, which I think is a lot of the problem, or they're not, or they're just not communicating. Oh, he should read my mind. What does that sound like? Yeah, that I hate. That sounds like You're not communicating at all to him. You should know I need you.

Speaker 4 2:10:00

You should kind of figure out how women work. Because, women do work differently than men do emotionally. They're not going to come out right and tell you exactly what the problem is. You kind of have to talk to them.

Speaker 2 2:10:11

But why is it a game every time?

Speaker 4 2:10:13

Because they're run by emotions. And when you start to understand that, you're like oh okay, if I want to play a game, I'm gonna go play mario odyssey on my switch.

Speaker 2 2:10:26

I'm not gonna like play a game, but if you want, if you want a woman to be a woman, you got to expect her to work emotionally different.

Speaker 1 2:10:29

Yeah, like I, I agree guys need to, like, like, understand women, but women also have to understand guys, because I feel like there's not a balance there well, if you like, work on trying to understand them.

Speaker 4 2:10:40

Like if you pay attention to things, like when a woman is mad at you for not taking out the garbage, usually she's not actually mad about you not taking out the garbage. It could be that you were off, run into work and you forgot to say I love you and she doesn't know how to like say that outright because she's a woman. They just, yeah, operate differently and you're kind of weird yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 2:11:00

Well, relationships aren't easy I know, but like guys are so much more simple-minded like we're just going to tell you how it is, and it's like that's what we want yeah, but I think women have to be more led by their emotions, because it really lets them be empathetic, especially when dealing with children. Yeah, and that's where that comes from.

Speaker 2 2:11:18

I agree, the empathy that I felt from all the women that I've been with has not been great Okay.

Speaker 4 2:11:23

I didn't say women, all women.

Speaker 2 2:11:24

Not all women.

Speaker 4 2:11:26

I didn't say that every woman.

Speaker 1 2:11:27

Every woman that you date doesn't have that no.

Speaker 2 2:11:32

Just kidding, I'm just saying too, it's like I get where you're coming from with it, but it's like the whole empathy thing, like again again. I know not all women are non-empathetic, but like the encounters that I personally had through my years of dating, they just don't care and it's like, okay, if so. Like again with my ex-fiance when we were about to get married, communication was a huge thing that we talked about and I said I want you to communicate. If you're mad at me, I want you to tell me why you're mad at me directly. I don't want you to sit here and beat around the bush or like, be like and then just like.

Speaker 4 2:12:03

Also, you have to be honest, were you the best version of a masculine man that you were when I tried to?

Speaker 2 2:12:09

be for sure, and I know and here's the thing is she did actually follow that whole communication thing. She was honest about if, if I did something that like upset her, like it. There was one time where I told her I'd call her after I got out of work so we could hang out, and I ended up passing out on the couch or whatever, and then she called me because she didn't hear from me and then I called her back and it was like eight o'clock at night and I was like I'm sorry, I literally passed out and I should have called you right away, even if I would have crashed on your couch. She goes well. I sorry, like I. I literally passed out and I should have called you right away, even if I would have crashed on your couch. You know she goes well.

Speaker 2 2:12:44

I was really looking forward to seeing you tonight and you kind of disappointed me and I was like I messed up, like I'm sorry. Is there anything I can do to make it up for you at that point? Communication is just huge in any kind of thing friendships, relationships, everything well, sounds like she communicated with you, doesn't?

Speaker 4 2:12:54

she did so. It doesn't like. Where's the lack of empathy?

Speaker 2 2:12:57

No, the empathy is. I mean, I'm giving her the empathy and I'm like, is there anything I can do? What can I do to help you know that kind of thing. And then even with her, like she's like I get it, like you worked like a 12 hour shift, kind of thing you know, Cause I did.

Speaker 4 2:13:09

I worked from like 3am until like it sounds like at that in that instance, yeah she was, but it was again with how we had to talk about communication.

Speaker 2 2:13:19

I'd rather you tell me instead of just like if you didn't call me and then didn't respond to my you know phone call that I tried to call back to you and then you waited a week until we next hung out and then been like well, you remember last week, like some women will do that crap too, they'll hold yours from like 40 years ago and it's just like well, yeah, for some reason it wasn't you that did it, but 40 years ago like somebody got hit and so that's your fault yeah, I mean, if you make yourself like a mountain of a man and I don't mean like big and burly, I mean somebody who's just not swayed that easily right then women and stuff like that don't really bother.

Speaker 4 2:13:54

you just kind of like rolls off your shoulder and you're like, yeah, whatever, you kind of play around with it a little bit and you just have fun with it. That's what I think the solution is. Yeah, you still have like a backbone and you stand up for yourself in situations.

Speaker 3 2:14:08

Yeah, I agree, I was waiting for it.

Speaker 1 2:14:14

I think also like why divorce happened. What we're?

Speaker 2 2:14:23

laughing at your response. Oh yeah, it was like the pause and the short response yeah, it was yeah I was kind of thinking about something else.

Speaker 3 2:14:30

That's why yeah, that's fine, I'm sorry. Well, don't listen to me.

Speaker 1 2:14:34

No, no, on the same, on the same note. I think what happens with divorce rate, why it's so high, is because I think love kind of falls off, like I think a lot of divorces happen at the two to five year mark because it love kind of falls off. You kind of have that, like you know that fresh love, yeah, this is great.

Speaker 3 2:14:55

And then it kind of just yeah, it's like the honeymoon phase runs out, yeah, and then real life hits and I, it's like the honeymoon phase runs out, yeah, and then real life hits and I think a lot of people can't handle it.

Speaker 1 2:15:05

And you know what? Scientists have found out? That, like hey, people that actually have like religion and like structure to their background actually stay together more often than people that don't, which is kind of crazy.

Speaker 4 2:15:18

Yeah, but it still happens. I would say frequently within the church yeah, I wouldn't say it's as much, I don't think it does.

Speaker 1 2:15:25

I wonder if you did a stat on that, how much different it would be. I think it's like probably what? 50%? I would say 80% of the divorces are outside the church and 20% in the church. I'll just say for me, like that's, that's what.

Speaker 4 2:15:43

I would think that the numbers okay, then, and that, if that's true, then why are people like you and I, who attend church regularly, having such a hard time even finding somebody to date? You're staring at me.

Speaker 2 2:15:54

Yeah, I don't know, that's because I'm thinking about the question well, and then for me too it's like I've dated, dated two Christian girls that go to church, and it's like they both are, like we didn't stay together, clearly, because they all decided to go their own separate route and went totally against what the whole point of like at least being together is, you know.

Speaker 4 2:16:14

Cause I would say like dating women in the church has been awful for me.

Speaker 2 2:16:21

Yeah, you would say, like dating women in the church has been awful for me. Yeah, you would. You'd be better off finding somebody on tinder than going to like a church.

Speaker 1 2:16:26

Well, yeah, you know what I mean, though it's not like literally finding somebody better on tinder, but it's like you literally can find somebody better anywhere else I think there's a lot of factors that factor into why, like one of them being I'm just a weird guy yeah, but weird is better sometimes yeah, weird is better like and I like being alone and I don't really care yeah, so for me, like I don't know me personally, is this like I, I mean, I don't go out of my way to even talk to girls yeah, neither do I so like yeah how am I supposed to even judge anybody, except for maybe myself?

Speaker 1 2:17:03

yeah in that way. Um, I also. I mean, there's so many variables there because, like, depending on the woman, like maybe she's going around doing stupid stuff and not even doing following what god's plan is for her either.

Speaker 4 2:17:20

Yeah, that's where I was kind of going.

Speaker 1 2:17:21

And then once she goes into her plan, and then she gets married.

Speaker 2 2:17:24

Oh, that's crazy dude, They'll wait until they're like 30 and then they'll be like I'm ready to settle down.

Speaker 1 2:17:29

Or why is society's pressure is still there too, like you just said, 30 years old, that society's pressure is still there, even though we're in a church. Years old, that society pressure is still there.

Speaker 4 2:17:40

even though we're in a church, it's still like, hey, go and make money and don't be under this pressure of, uh, the hierarchy of men yeah I mean yeah, I think that the church, the the majority of churches actually, I should say like the bigger churches, the ones that get all all the people yeah, we know who you're talking about.

Speaker 3 2:17:56

Yeah well there's more, there's. There's more than just that. One is what I was getting at.

Speaker 4 2:18:01

Yeah, but that one Our very yeah, but that one, that one is, I would say, quite influenced by the world in a lot of aspects. Like you said, the societal pressure of career chasing, you know, motherhood is not being pushed. Marriage isn't really being pushed in these, they're not really.

Speaker 1 2:18:25

Where's the teaching about how to get married as a young adult in the generation that we live?

Speaker 2 2:18:32

in.

Speaker 1 2:18:32

Nowhere, nowhere Exactly. It's not in the church.

Speaker 4 2:18:35

That's what I'm saying. It's not in the church, it's not in the church, there's nobody teaching it.

Speaker 1 2:18:40

The generations before us didn't have this thing yeah they didn't have, like some of the, how many things have changed since, like right the 90s? Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 2:18:52

Nobody has a guidebook for that no, you just kind of have to wing it and hope for the best in that point.

Speaker 1 2:18:57

The older generation doesn't have a guidebook because they're like I, I don't know. I just dated somebody in my hometown. I mean, both of my parents were from Sparta.

Speaker 4 2:19:06

We were high school sweethearts, I mean we met at church you know, yeah, yeah, I think that the phones are definitely a problem, but I also, I think, that like being satisfied truly in. Jesus hasn't really been fully taught at a lot of churches, at least not the way that it should be. Yeah, because if, if you're satisfied, like like you or I would be, like I'm not constantly on my phone looking at different women that I could possibly be with, it's like I want a real relationship.

Speaker 4 2:19:38

I know I said the other day that sometimes I download the dating apps, but that doesn't mean I'm not going on dates trying to find somebody yeah, which dating apps you can still lead you to a person.

Speaker 1 2:19:48

That isn't correct, so and and even when I?

Speaker 4 2:19:51

yeah, but they can also lead you to someone who is christian yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 2:19:57

Oh, we lead you to christian somebody that's in the church. I misheard.

Speaker 4 2:20:00

I thought, yeah, no, you're good um, but yeah, I think the paradox of choice is definitely a problem, because that women don't have to settle for someone in their church or someone in just their hometown, but maybe they should.

Speaker 1 2:20:15

Saturation of the market. Yeah, because you're, because there's.

Speaker 4 2:20:17

Oh, if you think about it, and I had to train my brain this way too, because I was in social. They should. Saturation of the market yeah, cause you're, cause there's. Oh, if you think about it. And I had to train my brain this way too, because I was in social media and everything like there. The reality is is there always, is going to be a better option right. That's just the reality. But you also have to know to be satisfied with where you're at, and who you're with, I think.

Speaker 1 2:20:37

Yeah.

Speaker 4 2:20:42

And that's not being taught, at least not when I was going to that church, that church they also push a lot of women to be leaders there and in a lot of those bigger churches. It's like let's promote women more to be leaders and let's do less men and you're really like putting everybody out of what they're calling are because men want to be ambitious and have that and deep down, I do think that women want to be mothers. It just has to be with the right person yeah, yeah I'm not saying that they can't chase a career.

Speaker 4 2:21:12

I think that they can. It's not like against god for them to work, but I think if we want to be happy like men, so that'd be done the right way yeah even in the world.

Speaker 1 2:21:25

Even in the world, it's like anti-man in general.

Speaker 4 2:21:29

Yeah, in a way yeah, it's always been that way. And that's what I'm saying is, I think, like churches are slowly kind of becoming anti-men in a in a different way. It's just slower, like how many jokes do we have to hear about the man being dumb in a marriage, but you're never going to hear a preacher, like a woman like complaining about why isn't the laundry folded and all this other crap. Yeah, like the pastor.

Speaker 1 2:21:52

Well, I wouldn't say that, but you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 2:21:56

The pastor is never going to, or just saying the woman is a blonde or she did something yeah, that's just not gonna happen, because that's very hurt about it offensive.

Speaker 1 2:22:05

Oh that's, that's a woman.

Speaker 4 2:22:07

You can't say that about them right, but they'll make jokes about men constantly that's because they know they can take it yeah, but just be brave and say something about a woman like who cares, I would yeah, bro, I tell my sister.

Speaker 1 2:22:19

I think it is more offensive if you say a joke towards women I tell my sister to get back in the kitchen.

Speaker 2 2:22:25

All the time I look at her I said get back in the kitchen to make me a sandwich but it's my sister.

Speaker 1 2:22:32

You know what I mean but don't you think it is like more offensive for a joke towards a woman than a guy?

Speaker 2 2:22:39

no, no or not, it's not really.

Speaker 4 2:22:43

It's equal because, again, it's the whole thing of like in my I think if you're the guy who is constantly only making jokes about women yeah, you're dumb then, yeah, you have like some insecurity, but at an occasional kitchen joke or about the wife being dumb, like it happens. But if you're the guy that only is doing that, then I think that's a problem.

Speaker 1 2:23:02

But if you were like, oh yeah, she dropped the fricking apples in the driveway again.

Speaker 4 2:23:06

Yeah, what an idiot.

Speaker 1 2:23:07

Yeah, what an idiot I feel like people, like more people would be like wow, this guy's just a jerk, compared to saying ah yeah, the guy fricking dropped the apples in the in the parking lot again or driveway again?

Speaker 4 2:23:21

Yeah, but I, what an idiot I can see. I think people would laugh at that because they're like yeah, okay so is it like you're saying that the people think it's more offensive?

Speaker 1 2:23:30

Yes, the people think it's more offensive if you were to say that joke.

Speaker 4 2:23:33

But you don't really care.

Speaker 1 2:23:36

No.

Speaker 4 2:23:36

I don't.

Speaker 1 2:23:37

I don't personally care.

Speaker 4 2:23:38

Okay then, yes, no, I don't personally I don't personally care okay

Speaker 1 2:23:39

yeah, but if I I'm saying if I was a comedian and I was in front of a crowd and I'd made those two different jokes the ones about the apple that I just said- yeah I think people would get up and leave if it was, if I said it was a woman, yeah, okay, and now for a guy, no.

Speaker 4 2:23:54

They think it's funny okay, now that I know that you're saying from like an audience perspective. Yes, I think that people generally think the women one is more offensive, but Matt Reif also had that joke about women and he just owns it.

Speaker 1 2:24:07

Yeah, I mean yeah, but a lot of women do hate him.

Speaker 4 2:24:10

So yeah, but who cares?

Speaker 1 2:24:13

I mean this is you're going to have, no matter where you go.

Speaker 4 2:24:19

Yeah, I mean if you could like what David Goggins says. If you can walk on water, they're gonna think it's because you can't swim. Yeah, like they're gonna have haters are always gonna say well I mean, I just know I get it. That's actually kind of good though haters are always gonna find something about you yeah, there's just, it just is what it is now you can walk outside with the red flannel.

Speaker 2 2:24:37

Somebody's's going to get like why is it not green? Yeah, why isn't it green?

Speaker 4 2:24:41

Yeah, so I think that it was blue. Yeah, we're going to move on.

Speaker 1 2:24:49

What was the original like? What were you originally talking about?

Speaker 4 2:24:53

Women Like women versus guys like in the end, yeah, like I think we were kind of on society, societal pressure on women, even within the church.

Speaker 2 2:25:02

Yeah, maybe it started off on like the dating apps and how they ruin relationships, and then it just kind of went to like this point where it's like, yeah, can you really make fun of a woman without somebody getting offended? And the answer is no, because they'll hold a grudge for like the next 50 years about that. Yeah see, there's a joke.

Speaker 4 2:25:18

There's a joke about a woman and I think it's funny.

Speaker 2 2:25:21

And there will be women that listen to this that will also agree on that because they know it's true.

Speaker 1 2:25:26

And then there's going to be women who get mad. They'll think of other people. They won't think of themselves.

Speaker 4 2:25:30

Yeah, even though generally, if they're thinking of somebody else, it's probably about them.

Speaker 1 2:25:35

That's actually usually what I do for a joke. Huh, I think about somebody else, you just don't. You don't think about yourself, you think about like somebody somebody else.

Speaker 2 2:25:47

Yeah, that happening, but in a way like you also gotta have fun with yourself every now and again too like I never have fun with myself, dude I.

Speaker 1 2:25:54

I think it's boring.

Speaker 2 2:25:55

I do jokes all the time about me because the thing is is like okay, if I'm gonna make fun of somebody else and like I got to be able to like, if I can dish it, I can take it at that point.

Speaker 4 2:26:03

Yeah, but there's too many people who can dish it but can't take it.

Speaker 2 2:26:06

Yeah, and I hate those people I'm like, don't even joke with me.

Speaker 4 2:26:08

Oh, I'm one of them, like I'll make fun of you for days, but as soon as you make a joke about me, I hate you.

Speaker 1 2:26:15

I'm actually not joking. I probably am one of those, really Actually, I just don't dish it, get out, I just don't dish it, I don't dish it.

Speaker 2 2:26:23

And I don't receive it. Yeah, or I'm not good at receiving it.

Speaker 4 2:26:26

If you don't dish it, then you don't have to take it Right. At that point you have a right.

Speaker 2 2:26:30

Then that guy's just a jerk, yeah, if somebody says something like, and then you're like okay, well, I didn't make fun of you for your crap, so don't be making fun of me and mine.

Speaker 4 2:26:38

Yeah, you're able to do that. Yeah, but if you say, hey, caleb, your shirt's stupid and I'm like, well, yours makes you look like a flower.

Speaker 1 2:26:53

And you're like don't say that.

Speaker 2 2:26:54

Don't say that, then you're wrong. Yeah, I agree. Do you think men, like a lot of the masculinity has died a bit? There is still some of it out there, but I think most of them, oh, you mean guys?

Speaker 1 2:27:04

are getting softer.

Speaker 2 2:27:05

Yeah, they're getting softer because I mean, there is one person I can think of in particular who, like, doesn't wear the pants in a relationship, oh yeah. I know that guy and he yeah, the woman's in control and whatnot. Yeah, the woman's in control and whatnot. And I can feel like it's a more dominant thing at that point where the woman's going to be making the decisions on everything and anything in that house or finances or whatever, and the man's not going to stick up for it, even if he is the breadwinner.

Speaker 1 2:27:29

That's because, literally, women wanted that, the women wanted that.

Speaker 4 2:27:32

Right. The women wanted what.

Speaker 2 2:27:34

To be the breadwinners.

Speaker 4 2:27:35

Oh yeah, go back to, but look how happy they are.

Speaker 1 2:27:41

They're not happy. I know I mean go back to Adam and Eve.

Speaker 3 2:27:45

It's the oldest story in the Bible. Which can we?

Speaker 4 2:27:49

all agree was Eve's fault for biting into the apple. Yeah, I blame Eve.

Speaker 1 2:27:54

Hold on, I'm making a point.

Speaker 4 2:27:55

Yeah.

Speaker 1 2:27:56

Except I forgot what the point was.

Speaker 4 2:27:58

Oh my. God Well you guys interrupted. He interrupted.

Speaker 3 2:28:02

He interrupted. I had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 2:28:04

Well, eve, you know, had the apple and then gives it to Adam right, yeah. Yeah, and pretty much it's like the same thing. They were the first ones that wanted charge, right, yeah, yep, and they still want that. Even in a relationship, they want to take charge.

Speaker 4 2:28:23

Yeah, it's a tale as old as time and God is like nah, it's like yeah, because Adam basically, Adam simped is what you could say. Yeah.

Speaker 2 2:28:30

Adam simped yeah.

Speaker 4 2:28:32

It's because and I think that, like in that story, eve represents like freedom from God and then Adam represents the sin and fall of man, because women have always wanted freedom like they like, liberation from like god yeah and then liberation from god. What does that lead to? It leads to sin yeah because men don't have to allow feminists and feminism to to be there.

Speaker 4 2:28:57

We don't have to allow it, but we do the majority of us allow it like women will say something like oh yeah, we agree because we're scared that if we disagree with them they're not going to like us right, or they're just going to like, call us like a fascist or something like stupid, and they're going to shun men on everything.

Speaker 2 2:29:11

All men are the same. At that point.

Speaker 4 2:29:12

That's probably just a man's thought, you know if they call us a fascist, it just means how dumb, they are.

Speaker 1 2:29:18

Yeah exactly. Guys actually just yeah, they want that.

Speaker 4 2:29:24

But the reality is, if you actually stand up for yourself and disagree with them, that actually makes them more sexually attractive to you.

Speaker 1 2:29:34

Versus just trying to agree with them all the time. I mean, as long as it's not on a hard issue, I mean you know what I mean. Like if it's not, I was about to say something.

Speaker 4 2:29:44

I'm gonna wait.

Speaker 1 2:29:47

See it out of the corner of my eye stop stop, like as long as it's not on like a huge issue, like hey, I'm moving or something I don't know what do you mean?

Speaker 4 2:29:57

moving like.

Speaker 1 2:29:58

You can argue like hey, this, I don't know, this rock is stupid, or something like that. I don't know. What do you mean? Moving like like. You can argue like hey this, I don't know this, this rock is stupid, or something like that, I don't know the examples we come up with.

Speaker 2 2:30:06

Yeah, yeah, I'm saying like okay let's

Speaker 4 2:30:09

use the rock if she comes in here and says, like I really think this rock is a work of art, and I'm just like you're like it's stupid yeah right, that's. That's a small thing, you disagree on yeah, but if it's like something bigger than no like you probably shouldn't, yeah yeah for instance like that well then, you probably just shouldn't be with her right if you disagree with her, I'm saying it won't.

Speaker 1 2:30:31

They won't be attracted to you. If you're disagreeing with them, in that bigger I disagree with you, because I've actually been on really with women who what had political, yeah, political disagreements with me, and they still were like into me, but political that's still like small class dude that's not. You just said abortion was a big thing no, I'm not saying like abortion, like she was scared is has to go get abortion, like she has to go get an abortion and you're disagreeing with her on that and I mean here's oh, that's a whole.

Speaker 2 2:31:05

I feel like yeah, the ballpark that is.

Speaker 2 2:31:07

Yeah, I'm not saying yeah yeah, like hard really yeah, never mind difficult situations like that, there are certain things they will just not agree with you yeah, there are certain things with abortion too, with that factor I mentioned it a couple of times where it's like I feel at one point it's a, it's a gray line, because I can get why a woman would want an abortion and the only reason would be like rape at that point.

Speaker 2 2:31:32

Because I wouldn't if I was a woman and I had that happen to me. I wouldn't want the kid of the rapist that did that to me. But if you're like some girl that like just you know what happens when a man and a woman get together, regardless of age, at that point like if you're 18, past that age of consent, whatever and you're like, well, I just I'm not ready to be a mom at that point. Like you knew what was going to happen when you decided to do the horizontal monster mash with that guy at that college party, all right, like you knew what was going to happen. So you need to accept what your mistake was at that point, and so does the guy. I'm not saying that the woman needs to just be the only one to accept it. The guy is the one who also knows that it's his scene that produces that child.

Speaker 1 2:32:13

Yeah, so he needs to man up and then be an example that is so true that I feel like men are not stepping up in those situations and that's why women are saying I should just have an abortion, because I know this guy isn't going to do before we help helping

Speaker 4 2:32:28

me at all you know, yeah, okay, before we segue into this, I will say that even in the situations of rape, abortion still doesn't take away the trauma of the situation no it doesn't and away the trauma of the situation no it doesn't, and they will still have that emotional tie to that child.

Speaker 2 2:32:45

It still will I just when you look at a kid that if you were raped and you had that kid and it's like and the kid's like eight years old now and it has the face of the rapist at that point like I'm not going to want to look at that all day, like I understand he's a kid and he's innocent and all this 50% looking that way.

Speaker 4 2:33:00

Well, what I'm just saying is like there's been a lot of cases where they do keep the baby and they're really happy that they did, and a child is really happy that they were able to live.

Speaker 2 2:33:11

Yeah, and that's also good too. It's just for me personally. I wouldn't want to. If I was in that case, if I was raped as a woman and I had to look at the offspring of the rapist that did that and, yeah, I'm still going to be traumatized regardless. But I'm like this video is not getting pushed on YouTube. No, it is not.

Speaker 4 2:33:33

Did we run out?

Speaker 1 2:33:34

of recording power.

Speaker 4 2:33:35

No, I'm just saying all the words we're using are supposed to be censored. I'm not censoring them, though're using. Yeah, I was supposed to be censored.

Speaker 2 2:33:40

I just I'm not censoring him, though I wouldn't want it to be at that point for me to just look at the kid and again, I know the kid is innocent at that point, but like I wouldn't be able to handle it because it would just be a raise.

Speaker 1 2:33:50

That ptsd reminder that kid is a blank slate, though you understand, though.

Speaker 2 2:33:55

Like as you get older, you grow more into whoever the dominant genes are like. For me, I'm gonna look more like my dad when I'm probably in my 50s, but it's like if my dad did something stupid and then I was thinking, you're thinking like the behavior would be no different no, I'm talking like just physical traits, just in general. Like so if my dad, let's say, did something stupid to my mom, and then I grow up and I'm 50, she, she's like 80, and then she has PTSD.

Speaker 1 2:34:22

How do you know what they're going to look like?

Speaker 2 2:34:24

Because that's just how it is with more dominant genes and stuff like that. Like my brother has more of my mom's genes than my dad's?

Speaker 1 2:34:29

No, but I'm saying, if you got raped, like, how would you see?

Speaker 2 2:34:32

that Well, the male genes are more, I feel, dominant.

Speaker 4 2:34:40

What if you're like man? I got raped by the best looking freaking guy and it's still right. You know what I?

Speaker 1 2:34:43

mean, that is a terrible argument. I'm not even arguing, I'm just saying how do you know, like what it's even gonna look like? I mean at all, because usually when somebody gets raped, they get drugged and they have no idea even who raped them right?

Speaker 2 2:34:55

yeah, that's true, but at the same time, though, you don't know until the kid's born, so there is a chance that that kid will look like the rapist, and then, at that point, it's like.

Speaker 4 2:35:03

I'm sorry, but you never saw the rapist. Yeah, but you wouldn't know what he looks like because you didn't see him.

Speaker 2 2:35:07

There are people that still do get raped without being drugged.

Speaker 1 2:35:11

Yeah, there's crimes of rape, yeah.

Speaker 2 2:35:13

I wouldn't say few, I would say there's an equal amount of being drugged and not drugged, really, yeah, oh. Yeah, and then there's again like there's sex trafficking, there's even prostitution and all that other crap too. That happens, and even though prostitution is not technically, you know, whatever, however the world sees it, it's honest work to some people, but other times it's no, it's not, it's sex trafficking which is bad.

Speaker 1 2:35:38

Yeah, but you it's not.

Speaker 2 2:35:38

it's sex trafficking which is bad I just yeah.

Speaker 1 2:35:39

But you know what I still say, that I mean, I think I've said this before is that one wrong doesn't equal another wrong.

Speaker 2 2:35:45

No, yeah, I think the dumbest thing too is just as a side note piece is a fun fact is like the only way that you can get away with like sex trafficking or like anything like that is if you have a camera in front of you, because then it's considered a porn and I'm like that's so dumb and it's illegal. Then at that point because you're filming.

Speaker 1 2:36:03

I listened to some podcast about this and they started cracking down really hard on this stuff yeah, I think it's regardless like uh porn. No porn hub. Porn hub, like it used to be like a lot, a lot of rape down there yeah, because they didn't have to. They didn't have to ask for yeah, yeah, like at yeah, and you didn't have to ask for consent and they only flagged it after like 15. Like down. Vote like like post. Like down reports reports 15 reports, and then, yeah, they start cracking down on that a lot.

Speaker 2 2:36:43

Yeah, because again, you can literally put a camera in front of it and it's oh, that might just be a fantasy, somebody has, or some crap like that, you know.

Speaker 1 2:36:47

Right, but they started knocking that down really fast.

Speaker 4 2:36:51

Well, that's good.

Speaker 3 2:36:52

So it's good.

Speaker 1 2:36:52

Yes, we live in a better world. To a degree, to a degree, to a degree it was a girl that I think she came on Joe Rogan a couple months ago. No, theo Vons, it was Theo Vons, that's what it was.

Speaker 4 2:37:06

I'll have to check it out.

Speaker 1 2:37:07

Anyways.

Speaker 4 2:37:10

Now what? Well, I think that we conclude.

Speaker 2 2:37:13

Yeah, I think we can conclude now.

Speaker 4 2:37:15

Two hours and 40 minutes.

Speaker 1 2:37:17

That's a good job guys.

Speaker 4 2:37:18

That's pretty long, so do we want to end it.

Speaker 1 2:37:20

Yeah, do we have to take. Do you think?

Speaker 4 2:37:22

All right, everybody All right, haven't heard this in a minute, I know. Thanks for tuning in everybody. We hope you enjoyed If you haven't. If you haven't done it already, be sure to subscribe.

Speaker 3 2:37:36

Be sure to subscribe and if you're listening, see you next time this has been another installment of the red flannel boys and one grey it's still the same.

Speaker 4 2:37:49

It's still the same people. You like how I just ended it.

Speaker 1 2:37:53

I like to drink ozone a tea sometimes bye, everybody love you have a blessed week.