Unhinged Christian
Welcome to Unhinged Christian Podcast, where we dive deep into the stories and perspectives that challenge conventional religious thought. Join me, Caleb Parker, your host and fellow seeker, as we embark on a journey to explore spirituality, faith, and humanity from a refreshingly open-minded perspective.
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Unhinged Christian
036: From TikTok Trends to Government Secrets
An intriguing mix of humor and serious topics dives deep into airplane crashes, media influences, and the reality of gun control and justice. We explore how personal anecdotes shape our understanding of larger societal issues, ultimately challenging our listeners to reflect on their values and beliefs.
- Opening conversation about winter activities and personal insights
- Discussion on recent airplane crashes and their implications
- Exploration of TikTok's role as a news source and its impact
- Political landscape: humor meets serious debate
- Conversations surrounding gun control laws and personal freedoms
- Discussion on the morality of the death penalty and justice
- Final thoughts connecting humor with introspection on societal issues
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Speaker 2:Yay, crack a cold one with the boys, dr.
Speaker 1:Pepper, you have yours. Yes, all right. Well, it's, the holidays are over. It's been a while.
Speaker 2:Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1:Yep, merry Christmas, happy New Year. You guys have not heard my voice since last year, lol.
Speaker 3:We haven't done it in that long.
Speaker 1:It has been yeah dude 2024, man, when was I think the last episode came out? December 13th, was it really Something?
Speaker 2:like that Two months ago. Dang, that's a while.
Speaker 1:Well, like a month and a half ago, well, yeah, almost two months. Yeah, holidays are over. Life is slowing. Yeah, life is slowing down. A little bit, sure is, and so now we can catch up on the pod.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how was your guys' day?
Speaker 1:Good Went ice fishing Freezing Fun.
Speaker 2:Just got out of work an hour ago, so yeah, it's been fun. I'm glad it's Saturday because my weekends are Sunday and Mondays are my two days off, so I have like a Tuesday through Saturday.
Speaker 1:So it's like your Friday today.
Speaker 3:Yeah, are my two days off, so I have like a tuesday through saturday.
Speaker 2:So it's like your friday today. Yeah, ethan, your your day.
Speaker 3:I was pretty good I hung out with my dad all day. What was that? Don't know? What'd you guys? Probably a technical glitch. Uh, cut wood. And then I bought him a fan to filter out cigar smoke out of our pole barn, and so we were working on that.
Speaker 1:Oh, do you have to like? Put it in the window.
Speaker 3:No, no, we're making a hole through to the cold side and then up out. It's going to be cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure that'll help. It will Significantly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, went to Taco Bell too.
Speaker 2:Sounds delicious actually. Dude, I have not been to taco bell in forever. Don't get their chicken nuggets.
Speaker 3:They have chicken nuggets.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have yeah, it's a new item. They have chicken nuggets and it's like the one that's on uh chicago drive. They literally have like it's like they deep fried the chicken for so long. It's like crunch. So all you're getting is like really crunchy chicken rocks, pretty much like yeah it. Like. I'm like, oh, I can't even eat one. It hurt that bad. Like crunch down on it. So I was like all right, cool, so skip that. Then I went to another taco bell same thing happened. They like overcooked it so it was like what's the point of even like saying oh, check out our new product, it's really filled with juicy chicken, and then it's like crunch. That's all I have to say.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so anyway, yeah, ethan, we all got. You guys got stuff to talk about. Well, we already know you're going to do TikTok Yep, but I'm still curious as to know, because you were the one that really oh, dude, I just miss you guys, so that's why you know, uh but uh there there was two planes that crashed.
Speaker 3:And then what was it?
Speaker 2:a 48 hour period yeah, it was something like 48 american planes. One was like a, a Black Hawk and a passenger jet plane.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like a 60-person passenger plane.
Speaker 2:And there were no survivors, hit the helicopter?
Speaker 3:There was none, I thought they pulled four people out.
Speaker 2:Like they were alive. What I heard recently like Trump announced that no one survived. There are no survivors.
Speaker 3:So they pulled four bodies out.
Speaker 1:Pretty much Out of the water. Sorry, it happened in new york you guys keep talking, I'm gonna get the charger for my camera.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're good, okay. So it happened in new york went into the water. It was like blown in half. Yeah, I thought there was four survivors that they pulled out.
Speaker 2:Maybe it was four bodies yeah, I was gonna was going to say because I feel like, at least for me, because, again, I scroll through TikTok. I'm one of those people where I get my news source. That's how you found out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2:I found out through TikTok because, again, it's like my media source for news and politics and all that other stuff and politics and all that other stuff. So I I was, uh, I saw an announcement that trump was doing on um, I forget what news network, but everywhere it was showing. Basically, like he said there, there are no survivors wow but the thing is too, is that that helicopter is was a military helicopter, yeah, and it's equipped with, like night vision and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3:Heat-seeking missiles, right? No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:So how does a helicopter that has all this modern-day technology just not see a passenger plane? Because it was dark out, but there were lights.
Speaker 3:On the plane, obviously On the plane, so you would have seen it. It came at a weird angle, though. I think it was like that Right, not head-on, not head-on, head-on. Yeah, it was like kind of tilted a little bit like.
Speaker 2:But yeah, like it was really weird and I'm like there's. I feel like there's something more to it, yeah like who was on it.
Speaker 1:Once we get the names of the people who were on it, we'll know oh, they have the names oh yeah, for sure they do they.
Speaker 2:They have the names now officially of everybody that obviously died.
Speaker 3:But the helicopter, I guess, was flying 400 or 200 feet over what it was supposed to. They're supposed to only be at 200 feet. They were at 400 feet okay so it's kind of the helicopter's fault yeah, I would.
Speaker 2:I would blame the helicopter 100%. It was a totally avoidable.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not kind of it was. Well, you know what I?
Speaker 2:mean, I just say kind of because that's just my lingo for stuff, but yeah, it was the helicopter's fault 100%, especially again equipped with night vision and all that other crap, and it's military. So you would think you know, obviously aircraft pilots have to be like 100% on point with their stuff. Yeah, because if aircraft pilots have to be like a hundred percent like on point with their stuff yeah, because if they miss something, then game over.
Speaker 3:At that point yeah, other people die exactly and same thing with the military they did.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, they did and with the military copter too, it's same thing is like they have people on board and if they mess up something, then something can happen, and I feel like, to that degree, we're not getting all the information about what exactly happened. Granted, this did happen recently, so they're still investigating what caused it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think it's a cover-up. It's a huge cover-up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I mean, I think it could. I wouldn't put it past him, Because again it's like who's on the plane?
Speaker 2:Right, If you also think about it too. The Malaysia flight, that one just disappeared out of nowhere for whatever reason.
Speaker 1:That was years ago, right, yeah, it was years ago, but it's like nobody's found it. Nobody knows what happened there has been some plane crashes worldwide Around Christmas time. There was some that happened, I think one in South Korea where it crashed into something and caught flames and I think everybody died.
Speaker 2:There was another one that just happened recently too. I don't know if it was in Arkansas or something like that.
Speaker 3:It was in Philadelphia. That's what it was. The second one.
Speaker 2:Philadelphia. I was seeing that one and it was like there were plane parts and everything like that, fire engines and everything and I was like holy crap.
Speaker 3:I saw a pretty good video of that and it looked like it just like came straight down. It was a. It was a medic like a fighter jet thing or something it was like a medic plane, yeah, like a medic plane, yeah because there was another one.
Speaker 2:I saw too where it was a fighter jet and it was doing like a medic plane. Yeah, because there was another one. I saw too where it was a fighter jet and it was doing like a test flight. And then all of a sudden it just went like it was like poof, but the guy survived. I don't know how he survived, but he survived, and the whole plane engulfed in flames.
Speaker 1:Oh, he ejected right that one.
Speaker 2:I think so yeah.
Speaker 3:Wait after the, you're saying it was free, or what.
Speaker 2:The first one I found out about was the fighter jet that was. It was doing a test run or test flight and it just like when it was landing or something like that, it just kind of like like a leaf falling.
Speaker 3:Like the wind, caught it bad Something.
Speaker 2:And then it just went, and then you see the video and it just engulfed in flames. And then I heard about this one with the helicopter and the passenger plane. And then there was the other one that crashed, the one in philadelphia yeah, and it came down like a missile.
Speaker 3:I saw a ring yeah video of it and it was. It was bad. It came down so quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like oh, geez, I'm like holy crap, like what the heck is happening with all these like airplanes and stuff. It almost feels like people are like oh, an airplane's so much safer. Hmm, I'm not really buying that right now considering the amount of crashes they have.
Speaker 1:But I will say that when the crashes happen, it's more scary because it's like this thing is falling out of the sky and it's like 60 people die at once.
Speaker 3:Right, and it can kill people on the ground.
Speaker 1:Yeah too, yeah versus like yeah, car accident, I mean it's still a tragedy, but it's one or two people dying exactly yeah, no big deal yeah, I'm just kidding, dude, there's been plenty of pileups.
Speaker 3:So, like in michigan, like 11 car pileups yeah, there was a car pile, there was one with like two or three semis that like slid off the road.
Speaker 2:One slid off and tipped on the road and the other two were blocking the whole highway because they were like skidding and went sideways and then there was like a nine car pile up jack jack knife like yeah, it was crazy, let's pile up like a bunch of accidents, or you mean like a traffic jam, like no, yeah, like a bunch of cars into something
Speaker 2:yeah, like. So if, like, let's say, a semi tire or a semi truck, you know, tire pops or something like that and it squeals and it tips or whatever and then it lands on its side, because obviously once you lose a tire you're not gonna be able to really control it, so then everybody else behind the semi is like breaking for dear life and they can't stop.
Speaker 3:They can't stop.
Speaker 2:So then it just turns into a car pile up, so that pile up, pile up, pile up and that's why it's like in the snow.
Speaker 1:I don't understand why people are tailgating like there's a semi and I'm on the highway. I'm not near it. No, it's, it's gonna be well within well, and that's the thing too distance.
Speaker 2:Every year people, at least here in michigan, forget how to drive and I don't know how you forget. Everybody knows that's been in michigan for years driving knows on how michigan's like winters get. I've been driving now since 2012 yeah, yeah, but this year specifically like it's cold, it's cold it. But I mean, like it still wasn't that bad driving, like I had no problem and I have a front-wheel drive car. Well, that's why it's a lot easier.
Speaker 1:It's just hard Well if you have a rear-wheel drive car or van. Usually there are trucks or vans. It's hard to drive that. See, I've never wheel drive vehicle. I've had a four by four which is my jeep, and then I've had the two hondas. So but I will say that one of the problems is people either going way too fast or too slow.
Speaker 3:Or too slow, because when you're going too slow it's like people want to pass you, but they get in another lane, they just lose control.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because the lanes are thinner because the snow is piling up on the side of the road and then you're going like I think 20 miles an hour is way too slow. Yeah, like I don't. Obviously, if you're going slower it's fine. Like if it's 55 and you're going like 40 or 45, okay, that's fine. But when you're going 20, it's like you shouldn't have left the house no, you should just pull over and let everybody pass you at that point.
Speaker 2:There was a news clip I saw a while ago. I think it was like in a YouTube compilation of like funny news moments or something. I just ran, I was bored and watched it and there was a girl and it was like the news and police stations have advised everybody from the winter hazard to stay inside because it's cold, it's icy and nobody's like they're closing down highways and stuff and so stay off the roads unless you absolutely have to. And then they interview a girl and she's like well, I just wanted to get donuts, so that's why I'm out right now. Literally I was like you are stupid, Like that's how people are.
Speaker 3:They're like she gets there and they aren't even open. That's how it is, well on that.
Speaker 1:what was it? It wasn't like not this past Tuesday, but the Tuesday of last week, so I don't know what the date would have been like January 12th or 14th maybe 14th?
Speaker 2:I think I don't remember.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was really cold.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was really cold. I drove like an hour south to go snowboarding.
Speaker 2:What was it like? I'm one of those people. Was it like negative? Or was it like zero, or was it like it?
Speaker 1:was, it was four degrees, and then, when the sun went down, it was zero.
Speaker 3:oh, yeah, I was out amazon delivering. That's crazy. It was really cold.
Speaker 2:They called us back because it was so cold see, okay, at least they did that, because that's the one thing I do hate about the corporate. Like america, at least with some things, like I get it, like you have certain products that need to get out, but when the weather is that bad, stop. Let your people be at home for the day.
Speaker 1:At the same time, there's certain things that just can't shut down.
Speaker 2:For example, retail stores as dumb as I think it is, an auto parts store, or even a grocery store, for that matter. Okay, like you guys knew on the weather station that the weather was going to be bad on this day, so why are you waiting till the day of to go get stuff, stuff and I, I feel like you're saying that's worth retail. I feel like. I feel like you're saying that's worked retail for over 10 years.
Speaker 1:I feel like you're saying the auto parts, because you work there, but people's cars break down the day of sometimes.
Speaker 2:I know they do and it does suck. But there have been people who are like okay, I'll tell you this as an example, back when I worked at my old store no joke it was. I think in the negatives is how cold it was Plus the wind chill made it, I think, negative 15, I think it was. I think in the negatives is how cold it was plus the wind chill made it, I think negative 15, I think it was. It was really that cold out and you couldn't see anything outside, like they were advising people and businesses to close their doors so their employees could go home, yeah, and my store was like, no, we're not letting you do that, even if it is negative out. We had one or two people come into that store separately to get an air freshener. That is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3:Do you really need this air freshener Right?
Speaker 2:Like an air freshener is not going to save you from negative 15 degrees like outside. Like either, come in for an actual auto party.
Speaker 1:Because what if your car is really stinky and you can't stand?
Speaker 2:to be in there.
Speaker 1:Well then they better say, uh-oh, Get out of there. And then you put the car air freshener in there and then it's like, okay, now I can sit in this warm car because it smells good.
Speaker 2:That's so stupid.
Speaker 1:I think that's like a one in a million emergency, but it could happen.
Speaker 2:That is not an emergency. You're bored at home and you're impulse buying at that point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember that because. Jets closed early I think that was like a couple years ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I'm sorry, Like okay, you're at home bored and you're going to make a delivery guy risk his life for a pizza and then tip him five bucks. It's like $5 is not worth risking the life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want at least 10 when it's when it's that bad out. And and then they also are like annoyed that you're late. It's like, first of all, when it's that bad out, you're not the only one with the idea to have your pizza delivered, right, everybody and their brother is getting it. And then it's on a weeknight, so I'm the only one working, so I'm the only one delivering and so it's like they just pile up.
Speaker 2:And then it's on a weeknight, so I'm the only one working, so I'm the only one delivering, and so it's like they just pile up and then I think at that point, like for severe weather conditions, if it's like the business's choice to stay open, and like for a delivery driver, for example, I think they really should like increase the tip.
Speaker 2:Like this is the minimum that you're tipping, because they're like the delivery charge right or the delivery charged, like that's what they should do during severe weather, because it's like it's not worth it if I'm going to deliver. Let's say they just want like a hot and ready pizza right from little caesars yeah and then they they sit there, they're 20 minutes away and either a they don't tip you or b they give you a two dollar tip and it's like yeah yeah, because that happens yeah, I would probably give you negative money yeah, exactly, it wouldn't be worth like that take his money, that ain't gonna do anything
Speaker 1:for gas even too.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying is like it's, is it worth the risk at that point? No, it's not. I would rather be at home or call in at that point. If that's what it's going to be like, I'm not going to sit there.
Speaker 3:You're like, this took more than 25 minutes.
Speaker 2:It's free, right? Yeah, there's people like that too. It's like, oh, you know fast and furious delivery and stuff like that. I couldn't think of the other word I was thinking of for speedy, but yeah, there's people out there they're like oh, if it's not here in 30 minutes, then it must be free. And then they crack that joke, yeah, and it's never funny. No, it never is. It's just like the thing that when you scan an item and it doesn't scan, it's like oh, must be free same with people who are like you.
Speaker 1:Got any more in that car. I feel like you delivered it if you ordered it. No like, if you like, the neighbors are asking you oh so you deliver it and their neighbors are like you got any more in the back of the car.
Speaker 2:I'm always like, yeah, let me check, and then I just drive away yeah, or they walk in your story like beautiful day, isn't it and it's like clearly not, pal. I don't know what you're trying to do. Lighten the mood, mood? No, it's not working. Shut up.
Speaker 1:It's usually not very funny when they do that. No, Just old jokes. So plane crashes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, literally went from that to that. Good Lord, do you have anything more to add on it?
Speaker 3:No no.
Speaker 2:That was it.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I don't even really know much about them because I have been staying off social media for the most part, so I just saw like glimpses of planes and it was mostly like Democrats blame Trump and Trump blames Democrats for it, and it's like oh okay.
Speaker 3:I can't do this. It can't be nobody's fault.
Speaker 2:That's media for you.
Speaker 3:It can't be an accident.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean for you it can't be an accident.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean exactly, it can't be yeah like and that's the other thing too is like why do they have to get politics in the thing for it? You know what I mean? Like you could have it where all mcdonald's shut down and they're gonna be like it's the democrats, and then the democrats are gonna be like it's the republicans, and it's just like, oh, oh, okay, cool, maybe it was just a business idea to shut down completely. I'm just saying that's how media gets nowadays. It's all political.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, that's what makes money, but Trump won so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true, that is true.
Speaker 3:And I'm going to be glad to be rich again to that extent because I know, when a certain old man was running the office, I wasn't rich and no, neither was the rest of america at that point. You know what did happen. Gas dropped a week after, literally, trump was in. I was like I feel like it would have been the other way.
Speaker 2:It's like what 288 right now yeah, it's so cheap yeah, and it was like almost four. It actually went over four dollars when b Biden was in office. Yeah, like that's. The other thing too, is I'm just like that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Stephan, you think that because Trump is in office, you're going to be rich now.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, here's the thing I know when Trump was in office in 2020 like before COVID and crap, like I had money to be able to afford rent.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I had money to be able to afford rent. Yeah, I had money to be able to afford my car insurance. Now I'm literally working overtime to barely make it or at least not I shouldn't say barely make it, because I could still make it by but I basically have to budget everything way more not go out to eat, not even.
Speaker 3:I mean, I have money for a little bit of that.
Speaker 2:But the groceries, yeah, the groceries are already expensive, as heck Dude.
Speaker 1:how are we going to Texas after this? I?
Speaker 3:don't know. We're going to Texas.
Speaker 2:It's going to be a long flight.
Speaker 1:Long flight. Worth it, though. Yeah, I'm not getting on a flight.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're getting on Joe Rogan already.
Speaker 2:I think the last flight I got on was when we went to conferences back at my store.
Speaker 1:Oh, and that actually was in Texas, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was in Austin. We went to for the convention and yeah, it was all paid for and everything like that. It's actually really nice down there. 7-eleven is like the speedway of here. There are 7-Elevens around every corner.
Speaker 1:There was a lot in Florida too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I bet you it's warmer down there. Yeah Well, right now.
Speaker 1:Well, it was funny In Michigan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's warmer down there In Michigan when we went, and when my boss at my current job is at, when she went down there, it was like people were wearing T-shirts and then people here, obviously, obviously, are all bundled up in their coats and scarves and little beanie hats and I'm like dang, that's like a huge change right there. It was still like cold.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's almost like Texas is closer to the equator, or something Crazy, dude I didn't even know that. Last point I went on was actually this Christmas for Disney World.
Speaker 2:And how was the magical kingdom?
Speaker 3:I would never go back never, uh, that's that's one thing I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't know how good vacations really are for people like I think it depends on, like, what kind you go on yeah, I, I mean, I think too there is such a thing as like overdoing it too yeah, because I think if you're camping or outdoors I would be fine.
Speaker 1:But just sitting in a hotel and being surrounded by tons of people and just like disney stuff, like I came back, yeah I came back just like way depressed and like it took me a while to get back into my routine of working out and post sleep scheduling and everything post disney depression post disney depression yeah, but like eating healthy, getting back into like cooking my own food and because I was like kind of going out to eat a little bit more when I got back and I wasn't going to the gym, I was just sitting around, it was weird.
Speaker 3:I've never had it like that bad yeah, disney, it just messes up your whole schedule I already don't care for disney anymore at this.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, neither do I it's just. There are some disney adults, though, that are still lingering out there.
Speaker 1:It's ridiculous yeah, there's a lot more than some.
Speaker 2:There's plenty yeah, and from what he told me too, it's like it's just not even worth it, like going there and like what, what they charge you like 600 bucks a person seven thousand dollars, yeah, it's seven thousand no, I think it's actually each park is about two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1:And how many parks are there?
Speaker 2:four so like.
Speaker 1:So there's magic kingdom well, if you go to each one, I only went to Magic Kingdom and That'd be $800.
Speaker 2:Well, I was like almost a grand. I don't know if it's like, is it $200 flat or is there taxes?
Speaker 1:Well, it's like some of them are $150,. Some of them are a little more expensive.
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought all of them were like $200 flat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're a little bit different, but they're roughly $200. There like a little bit different, but they're roughly 200 bucks. Okay, there's a mickey tax, yeah, which is additional 200.
Speaker 2:Um, but it was funny because my niece, who was like five, met fancy nancy, which I've never, I don't know who's fancy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know either, but she got done. She's like. I know that wasn't really her self-aware child it was like the buddy of the elf when he's like you're not Santa. Oh yeah, you smell like beef and cheese.
Speaker 2:You don't smell like the real.
Speaker 1:Santa. Yeah, it reminded me of that.
Speaker 2:You know what's funny, speaking of Will Ferrell and the elf. So you know that creepy, like what is it? The Home Depot, like elf statue that you know, like how people during Halloweenlloween they'll have those like animatronic things that like if you go near it it's like a sensor and it goes off. Oh I hate those.
Speaker 2:Those are so annoying they have one of buddy the elf and it's like the worst thing to ever look at and it's creepy. It doesn't even look like will ferrell. It looks like the bootleg version of elf and they brought it out to will ferrell to show him on an interview show and he was like get that thing away. I didn't sign approval for that. I don't know who gave him the licensing for that.
Speaker 3:But yeah, he was like yeah, can you do copyright for that?
Speaker 2:Technically Can he. If he wanted to, he could, but I don't?
Speaker 3:He wouldn't make so much money doing that. Oh, absolutely. If it was copyright Well doing that?
Speaker 2:oh, it was copyright. Well, the thing is, I don't even think a whole lot of people are buying it until it became like a trend because of how like disgusting it is do?
Speaker 3:those censored animatronics scare you when you walk by them I just hate when they go off like a ton of times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they usually scare me on the first time, but then like, yeah, you're like this is annoying yeah, yeah, spirit of halloween did not have a whole lot of stuff this year or last year, I should say with uh, because usually when you walk into a spirit of halloween did not have a whole lot of stuff this year or last year. I should say with uh, because usually when you walk into a spirit of halloween, they have those animatronics that like jump out if you like, put your foot down here on the pad, and I'll tell you what. Don't ever do that. What the jump? Put your foot down on the pad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was the funniest thing, though, because my niece and nephew were in there looking for their halloween costumes and them being like eight and six, it is so funny to see a kid get scared like that. So I would sit there and they're walking by and I would like quickly go right in front of them and put my foot down on the pad. And there was this one that like lunged out like that and they just fell on the ground and they were screaming. It was hilarious, and my brother's like don't do that to them. And then he does it like two seconds later with another animatronic to the same kid to both of them and they both got scared.
Speaker 2:It was like a clown, like the clowns from outer space or whatever.
Speaker 1:That old 1980s movie killer clowns from killer. Yeah, killer clowns from outer space.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they had like one of the clowns with a hammer that had blood on it or something like that.
Speaker 1:I feel like those movies were way scarier than what we have now.
Speaker 2:Well, back then, yeah, because back then the technology was limited, and so it's like, oh my gosh, this is crazy, but they would put people in cotton candy.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, Like the cotton candy cocoons candy, oh yeah, like the candy cocoons. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, I don't think I've seen what you guys are talking. Oh, it's killer clowns, it's weird.
Speaker 1:It's one of those weird horror movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah and it's oh, what was the other one? What santa sleigh? There was that one where santa claus is like a killer and he's like he makes a good premise, he makes christmas puns too. It's great. He's like creeping through somebody's house trying to kill him and he's like not a creature was stirring and it's just like I think it's about to come down your chimney.
Speaker 1:I think it's more funny than it is scary. It's amazing because it's santa claus and he does use, like the christmas one liner he could definitely kill a lot of people if he really and then jack black made this dumb one recently on netflix or something where it's like it's called satan or something it's called dear satan. Is that what it is? Because the kid spells santa wrong yeah.
Speaker 2:And then like he's like I'm santa claus and it's like jack black. And then he's like, wait, do this. And then he turns into santa and he goes see, the horns are gone and I'm in a holly, jolly red suit, and then the kid believes like he's Santa this whole time. But he really. He's like some what son of Satan or something.
Speaker 1:I think he's supposed to be Satan. Oh, he is supposed to be. Well, it's called Dear Satan.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's true. Yeah, so then he's like really Satan and stuff. My brother and his girl watched it recently, so I know it's like. I mean there's only like a couple funny parts in it.
Speaker 1:Otherwise it's like why did Jack Black do this? I can't believe as a Christian. You even looked at that movie.
Speaker 2:To be fair, though, it looks a lot better than the Minecraft movie that he's coming out with.
Speaker 3:What are you wishing to Satan, though?
Speaker 2:What do you mean? What am I wishing to say? Satan, though, what do you mean? What am I wishing to?
Speaker 3:say I'm not wishing anything heck.
Speaker 2:No, no, he there. You should just have you seen the minecraft trailer with jack black in it. No, it is the dumbest it looks. I'm not a movie person at all, oh you're not no, it's the dumbest thing ever. He sits there and and he comes out like what's his name?
Speaker 3:The guy who plays Aquaman? Oh, jason Momoa yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he comes out and he goes who are you? And then Jack Black no joke, like Steve from Minecraft light blue shirt, purple pants, and he's just like I am Steve. That's pretty good, and he looks just like how he is, like it's a real live action with cgi yeah, they didn't.
Speaker 1:They should have made it. They should have made them like minecraft looking, yeah, and like the lego movie they didn't have. Like chris pratt walking around in a lego village.
Speaker 2:It was like a lego person voiced by yeah, with, like, with, like hands, like this, like just posed all the time.
Speaker 3:Wasn't that 100% CGI though?
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, there was no live action. I'm just saying like they should have done that with Minecraft.
Speaker 3:but instead, the actors are like they look like the actual actors. Yeah, that would be cool. You think so yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, because I mean, even if you think about it too, look at how some other, like they, did the mario, I don't all cgi, I think it's lame brought it up, I did because of jack black, we were talking about that dear satan or whatever.
Speaker 2:But, um, yeah, like with um, the mario brothers movie, you know chris pratt walking around as mario and stuff. That was all cgi and everything like that. Nothing was like live action, obviously being a kid's movie, granted. Then too you have the sonic the hedgehog movie. That's like a combination of both, but it's mostly. The characters are cgi, obviously. And then you have the human portrayation of, like, the humans of the human world, kind of thing yeah, I've seen both of those, yeah you should see the third one the third one
Speaker 3:I haven't seen any of them, have you not any of?
Speaker 2:them. The first one is just obviously the setup of how sonic came into our world. Second one has tails knuckles in it, and then well, don't tell me well, I mean, it's not like I'm majorly spoiling it.
Speaker 3:The the first movie came out in 2020.
Speaker 2:On this, if nobody has seen sonic the hedgehog it's only 2025.
Speaker 3:Okay, I know, I haven't seen a movie since, like you know, sonic 2019, so that's not true.
Speaker 1:Sonic three years. We saw that we saw that one not this past halloween yeah 2023 halloween. Dude, you gotta come to this movie. It was like oh, yeah, the weirdest movie ever. It wasn't really scary, it was just so creepy yeah, I listened to a podcast on it.
Speaker 3:I was like I really want to buy and watch it, did you?
Speaker 1:listen to them when they were on joe rogan's podcast. And then you went and saw. Yeah, I did the opposite. I went and saw and then I was like I want to know the guys who made this. And then I was like, whoa, this makes a lot of, I feel like it makes sense that I invited you over, right?
Speaker 3:No?
Speaker 1:It was the weirdest movie. What was that?
Speaker 3:movie called again Talk to Me. Oh yeah, don't watch it. If you're a Christian, just don't do it.
Speaker 2:Wait, really Is it bad.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's uh. Yeah, it's pretty bad it's pretty messed up.
Speaker 1:It's not even like scary that scary, it's just messed up. Yeah, like, just like demonic. I would consider like one of those. Would you consider like a demonic movie? I mean they're literally possessed by a demon when they touch the hand.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like yeah, for real. Like is it like live footage or is it like all?
Speaker 1:no, it's it's a movie. It's made by australian directors. It's all movie, it's all acting. But it's a movie, it's made by Australian directors, it's all movie, it's all acting, but it's just like really creepy. Now you're intrigued and you want to go see it.
Speaker 2:I mean I am kind of intrigued because I mean I think Don't see it, did we watch? I think the first horror movie that we watched was Paranormal Activity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those movies are dumb. They're not scary at all.
Speaker 2:The first one scared the crap out of me because that one seemed more real, because it was like they had cameras around their house and stuff yeah, and it was like the the main focus was the bedroom, because that's where most of the activity happened and obviously that's where most of the activity happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it looked like oh wow, I'm telling, I'm telling my mom.
Speaker 2:No she already knows. But yeah, no, the movie is. It looks like legit, like paranormal activity Kind of like when people first saw the Blair Witch Project and they thought it was like real. At first I thought I'm like how the heck did they? How has nobody seen this? And then they got really lame and hollywoodie with, uh, paranormal activity two and three and four, I think. I think there's at least three or four yeah, there's some movies.
Speaker 3:You just you can't make another one.
Speaker 2:You don't need to just stop. Yeah, yeah, like the lion king like toy story toy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're on five now, yeah, I thought it ended on three because they had that fire scene where they're all going on the fire, and then they had the clouds from Andy's room in the background.
Speaker 2:And then now the fourth one Buzz and Woody break up. And then in the fifth one, now they somehow get back together. And now it's a bunch of AI, Buzz Lightyear action figures that go rogue. No, like they split, yeah the woke version of toy story.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't be surprised is he still being voiced by tim allen?
Speaker 2:yeah, all of them are still like the original voices and everything, obviously, except for mr potato head, because the voice actor for him passed away. Um, before the end of toy story, which means he died.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, but they can get another person that sounds exactly like him well, now that you have AI, you can mimic anybody's voice.
Speaker 2:at this point, True. What they did for Toy Story 4 is they took clips from the deleted scenes, the video games and other movies and stuff, and they merged it with AI to create a smoother transition for the words, so that way Mr Potato Head could still be in the movie.
Speaker 3:for the fourth one, but doesn't he have to consent to that, or does he? Get royalties does he get royalties?
Speaker 2:I'm sure, the family, his family, I mean his family get royalties yeah, the family I'm sure gets like something for it, because there's no way that they're just going to steal his voice without the family's permission at that point. Yeah, because it's like to say like um, I think they did something for steve oh yeah happy feet because steve irwin was a seagull. And uh, happy feet. I found out recently. I was like I didn't even know that. What if that?
Speaker 2:was all he said yeah, he's like crikey mate, that's a sperm whale there or whatever, and he's like it's one of the biggest mammals in the ocean and uh, and he's talking like the happy. I forget a mumble, that's what his name was and uh, yeah. And then at the end it says like, uh, in memory of steve irwin. And they did the same thing with like what was it? The? Um, the night at the museum when robert williams passed away?
Speaker 3:yeah, because, like they had to, because, yeah, they weren't quite done with that movie, right?
Speaker 2:No, they were done with it. It was just that he passed away, I think, before it hit theaters, so they paid like an homage to him. I don't know if you got to see the actual screening for it or not Before he passed away. Like what was that 2014? He passed away.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm still broken up about it, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:I've already forgotten about him from not being hang.
Speaker 3:Who is it?
Speaker 1:it's crazy but my question is if they're using ai to mimic the mr potato head's voice, do they need consent from the family if it's not technically his voice?
Speaker 2:well, if they're gathering, like what they did in toy story, uh for like clips from again, like the video games, the other movies, the shows, like the spin-off shows or whatever, like when they take clips from that so it would just actual audio plus ai. It's still using clips from those, so it's not like just straight up using ai. So if they do it in toy story 5, that might be different, but I don't think they're going to. I think, if anything, they're probably gonna like find some excuse to be like hey like mr potato head.
Speaker 2:Uh was given away because the little girl didn't like him anymore, or something like that, so and then they'll have. I think actually the girl too, for mrs potato had uh passed away too. So I don't think the potato heads are.
Speaker 3:Why is everybody dying? I mean, this is getting old.
Speaker 2:James earl jones died too the original voice for mufasa so see, I know him as darth vader I knew him as mufasa and then darth vader and then he also, I didn't know like he did something else too I'm trying to remember. I think he did like some disney, uh, he also, I didn't know like he did. Something else too I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1:I think he did like some disney uh he also, I think, on audible you can have him read the bible really yeah, I didn't know that wait as darth vader yeah, the darth vader voice. He's not.
Speaker 3:He's not darth vader reading the bible yeah, he's not doing the breathing thing, but it's his voice, but he has that iconic voice.
Speaker 1:It's a good voice.
Speaker 2:It's like Morgan Freeman too. Morgan Freeman just has that iconic voice.
Speaker 3:I think he did sign his royalties over who? Morgan Freeman.
Speaker 2:Morgan Freeman yeah, I'm pretty sure he did.
Speaker 3:I know he's still alive, but you have to sign over before you die.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like so I would feel like at that point, yeah, if they got clips or something like that of you to a degree like, yeah, they'll be able to, um, do something. I mean the guy that also right now voices well, he voiced mario, charles matinee, I think is how you pronounce his last name uh, nintendo got rid of his, uh, his, um, what do you call it? Um character? Well, not the character mario, but they got rid of him doing the voices for mario. Whoa, yeah, literally like, and he had, yeah, and he still has like recordings everywhere. But now it's like two different people voicing mario and luigi. So, because he used to do like all the voices, he did mario, luigi, wario, waluigi, he did uh, I'm trying to think of who else he did on there too, but like, he did like a lot of the voices. And now nintendo is like having to hire all these new people. And mario, he, I mean, he still sounds like mario, but he's like a way younger version of mario same with I'm so out of the loop.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's crazy yeah, you're really in the loop I am in the loop. I wish I was in the loop like you.
Speaker 2:Well, this was like I found out about mario, like this was like maybe a year or two ago, because charles matinee came on. Uh I, it was a television, I think it was a news source. I just googled whatever like for nintendo or whatever. And then charles matinee is now that he's the ambassador, so now he's, he's able to get paid, like he I think he signed over his royalties, kind of like what you're saying but Nintendo is still taking care of him. He's still going to conventions and hosting them and representing Nintendo and they're still doing interviews with him and everything else and they're still including him in Nintendo Switch's promos and all this other stuff. So it's like, right, cool, I mean I'm no longer like the voice of mario, but I am still the voice of mario, but I. But then it's like I don't lose my job and like my family and me are still taken care of at that point, right, whereas that's good for him again after toy story 5.
Speaker 2:I don't know how they're going to do it with the mr and mrs potato head thing, if they're going to still honor that royalty to the family or if that's just all disney now, because disney's a monopoly at this point they're trying to buy everything.
Speaker 3:No, they can't just steal that from other people.
Speaker 2:They have been that money amount they have been put like on a thing from, I think, the government like, at least here in america as far as I know, with like that's true if you have a contract with them and it's like they're paying you anyways. I don't know, but after you're dead though well, I mean, I feel like anybody who is at least a close relative, so like if morgan freeman passes away like his I'm close relative what's the?
Speaker 1:what's the?
Speaker 2:government doing with disney? Well, no, so like, disney was trying to buy like everything, and the us was like no, because that's considered a monopoly, and so they're. They're basically limited, like I think they could only have bought at the time when this was announced this again with years ago, when this announcement came out on the news that they were only allowed to buy like one more thing, and otherwise they had to get rid of other assets in order to basically buy more, I guess. So they had to lose one to gain one, and right now, disney's partnered with fortnight. So we're getting like disney villains, we're getting cars, crossovers and all this other crap, and it's just like, so disney fortnight terrible, terrible game.
Speaker 3:I've never played it fortnight's great.
Speaker 2:He's the one who introduced me to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's not even good did you play before there were seasons? Because that's when I played. It was still in the beta, like they didn't have seasons at all somebody was trying to convince me that there was no c or there was always seasons, I was like no, there's a time before see.
Speaker 2:No, there was a time where yeah, it was like before the whole seasons and everything like that. I joined it like the end of season four yeah, and then I did.
Speaker 1:You got so late to the game dude I mean, do you think the seasons ruined the game?
Speaker 2:I think. Here's the thing. I think fortnite, in a way, yeah, was a good and bad thing, because now most gaming companies like call of duty now and overwatch and, uh, a couple other- games.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they stole the idea.
Speaker 2:They've done the battle pass system with micro transactions fortnite was like the first one to, like, I believe, do that thing. And then every company was tailing because, for uh, overwatch had loot boxes. I heard that yeah, uh, overwatch had loot boxes which you would pay like five, eight dollars, and it was like you get a box, it spawns in, you hold the X button and it's like random.
Speaker 3:Battlefield had that back in the day yeah, I know you know, I remember playing Battlefield 1 and they had, like, you know where you can buy better boxes, and that's how they made some money yeah, yeah, but it was just like skins and stuff, right?
Speaker 1:no yeah it was skins for the gun.
Speaker 3:It was random too. Yeah, it was random.
Speaker 2:So, and then with, but you still bought them yeah, and with fortnight you get an item shop and then you get like your battle pass, which has whatever. Now they make you um, in order to like. Beforehand, I think with fortnite they had like the free version and then they had the like. If you bought the battle pass, you got. Wow, I don't know why I started there.
Speaker 2:They bought the free version and then there was if you bought the battle pass yeah so if you didn't want to buy the battle pass, you could get a couple free things out of each yeah, it was like 35. Yeah, you got for free and now it's like you either play the game for free and you don't get the battle pass, or anything like that oh really, yeah, they made it worse, yeah than it was you. You pretty much have to buy the battle pass now if you want anything, so yeah but I mean it's pay to win, you know the one thing that is nice, though, is that it's like $10 a month and you get so now, because how big Fortnite's gotten?
Speaker 2:you have the battle, the regular Battle Royale, so you have that battle pass. You have a bonus page pass. You have an extras pass, you have the music pass. You have Lego Fortnite pass, you have the music pass. That's just way too many, dude. How many?
Speaker 3:times too many I just, are they all like 10 bucks?
Speaker 2:no, no no, the whole, that all six passes, are ten dollars.
Speaker 3:So you get like a bunch of crap see, I, I thought it was all. Yeah, I know ten dollars. No, I was like I remember they did do that once. Yeah, they did do that for once.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they did do that before. So like when Fortnite introduced like the whole the music, the Lego, the OG or whatever pass, and then Battle Royale, all those did individually cost ten dollars.
Speaker 3:And I realize you got screwed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, no, because the eleven dollars normally when you're in Fortnite crew only gets you the regular battle pass. So after that that, if you chose to buy the other passes, then that's additional money. But then it's like also, then too, you go to the item shop, you get your skins, emotes, whatever you want. Right now they were like well, people aren't buying these music passes, they're not buying lego fortnight, that's because they went over the deep end on it yeah.
Speaker 2:And so they're like, well, now if pay $10, you're getting all the battle passes in one bundle for $10. And it's like, okay, that's better.
Speaker 3:Now people will be able to buy that. This is what I did. Okay, shut up, thanks. I bought, I think, season two. Okay, and you get V-Bucks through the whole thing, so I'd save all of them, I'm going to get a glass of water. And then those V-Bucks, because they're called V-Bucks whatever it's the currency.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would buy the next Battle Pass and I would just keep on doing that. Yeah, Instead of buying anything with the V-Bucks, I would just be like, no, I'm just going to buy it once and I got I don't know three or four seasons worth and Call of Duty does that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, call of Duty does that now too, but I think they don't give you enough what they call COD points. So you basically I think it's like 100 points short, it's so late. Yeah, it's do, call of.
Speaker 1:Duty. We get screwed over. They started doing that on Fortnite too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you don't get as many V-Bucks to get the Battle Pass anymore.
Speaker 1:You'd be like 100 shorts so you could buy, like the next Battle Pass after that, but you'd always be like 100 shorts, you couldn't buy every single one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, where it used to. You'd actually have extra like almost like 300 or 400 extra if you did everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they probably realized that people were like, oh no, they're just using the in-game currency for it. So now we got at the same time. Some so many people spent so much money on that game.
Speaker 3:I spent a thousand dollars on it I'm not even gonna lie.
Speaker 2:I probably have spent at least a thousand dollars on fortnite since like playing wow, since playing like what when did me? And you start because it was pre-COVID. Like what when?
Speaker 1:did Fortnite come out? I don't remember 2017. So I feel like it had to have been maybe because you started.
Speaker 2:obviously you're an OG and you're an OG.
Speaker 3:I'm an OG Dude if I went on it with my old like skins that would be so funny.
Speaker 2:Dude, it's weird. I mean they've updated the graphics and everything. And now it's weird. I mean they've updated the graphics and everything, and now you can swim and there's vehicles that you can drive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all this then there's a recent update. You turn into godzilla and storm and crush buildings and stuff.
Speaker 2:It's crazy. Wow, that sounds fun. We went from playing crashes and government conspiracy to fortnight dude, I think fortnight is, I think fortnight is the reason why the plane crashes, probably.
Speaker 1:yeah, I, yeah, I think they're behind it.
Speaker 3:I mean they have a battle bus.
Speaker 1:so yeah, yeah what.
Speaker 2:You just look at some of the footage of like some random stuff that the government is like not the plane crashes, but you just see something flying overhead the White House and it's like a battle bus and you hear. You just see somebody drop from it with the balloon yeah, with a balloon trying to glide in, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1:No, obviously gosh. How about the tiktok band though? Oh yeah you were a really big fan of the tiktok band, I know yeah, I was so like you wanted it no, no, no here's the thing. This is I want to know both of your guys's opinions.
Speaker 2:I'll explain yeah, I'll explain my perspective of it. So obviously you guys know me I'm. I get all my stuff from tiktok news, whatever, just funny crap. And how I looked at it at first, uh was it's a fun app. But then later on, when stuff was happening in the world, it was like you wouldn't even find this out on fox news you wouldn't look, you couldn't go to cnn news and find like oh, biden just pardoned 8 000 people for whatever reason or whatever.
Speaker 2:He pardoned his son for online porn or whatever, and just as an example or whatever.
Speaker 1:Just that's not what it was, though was it?
Speaker 2:no, it wasn't like that. I don't know. He did something or saying it was good news well, yeah, it was actually like true news is what it was, like I would say that you could find stuff out, but it was never really in depth and some of it was uh blown, blown out of proportion, so you'd have to like you'd find something out on it, but you'd want to like actually research more into it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it's like how many people do that?
Speaker 2:Not a lot, no, not a lot. But later on, though, I started doing that because I was like, ok, this is weird, why is all this happening? But again, you're not going to find that on Fox or CNN or ABC News, because they are only allowed to show and share so much. They are only allowed to show and share so much. Like, yeah, they could talk about, oh, biden recently go into court for a scandal, but they're not going to go into, like, why is there a scandal? But then, on tiktok, then it's like oh, it's actually biden's son and it's because of this, this, this, this and this, and it's that and the third right.
Speaker 2:So they were more in depth and so I was like, okay, this is weird, but I'm like intrigued now to learn more about it. And then when they announced that because here's the other thing too, so people are like blaming trump on all of this tiktok crap, right, originally, yeah, he did want it banned, but it was at that point because of how new the app was. It was getting leaked information out. It was a national security. It was proven that it was a national security thing to get TikTok banned, so that's why he was against it. And then obviously, throughout the years, you know, I'm sure it's obviously cleaned up its act now at this point with, like cybersecurity and whatever you know, because every day technology's updating, and so then when biden took over, everything was fine. But then now there's this ban and well, it was a ban well, yeah, it was a ban.
Speaker 2:It lasted less than 24 hours. It was actually, I think it was like 13 or 14 hours. It like just went down completely so why did it go down?
Speaker 2:so it went well. It was just because of the whole thing. They were like it's a national security, it's leaking information to china, china's the bad guy, or whatever, but really it's like no, it's just because the truth is getting leaked out right now. At this point, like I I'm not even joking like I saved over probably 60 videos that night when tiktok was getting banned, because everything about the government was being released on tiktok and that's how scary that is is like, yeah, people can do that.
Speaker 2:Like they're just like, okay, we're just going to do anything and everything that we want. If it's going to be banned and gone from the us permanently, we're just going to leak everything that I've been hiding for years, or whatever and they were like oh, that's not that bad.
Speaker 2:Well, they were, they were they actually don't know that much. They were leaking stuff about Biden. They were leaking stuff about the past, like president presidencies, like with Nixon and JFK and everything like that. It was insane. And then they were showing stuff that Biden was doing inside office of what he was approving and like same thing with Harris and everything like that. That I'm like holy crap, what is happening?
Speaker 2:right now and then after 14 hours, because biden said because it was the day before and that's the funny part is, it was the day before trump's inauguration. Yeah, that tiktok went down and then, as soon as trump came into office, it right back it came right because of trump I?
Speaker 2:I think so, because he even said in a news conference um, that again was on tiktok, he goes. I got to use it and I see how much it's worth because, again, how he ran america back when he was first in president, he ran it like a business. Right it was. We had a lot, we had a, we had a lot going on with us. Gas prices were going down, like groceries were down, people could afford renting and housing, and then, as soon as Biden took over, everything skyrocketed. And it was the funniest thing too. It's a meme now, but they were talking about like how, now that Trump's in office, they're like well, trump's in office, and it's been a day, why are my eggs still four dollars a carton? Like, well, trump's in office and it's been a day, why are my eggs still $4 a carton?
Speaker 1:no-transcript.
Speaker 2:And they also found out too, that the Biden administration was killing chicken farms and stuff like that like the chickens and chicken farms and then that created a shortage for the eggs, and that would be the reason why eggs would skyrocket in price.
Speaker 3:We've got to solve this mystery. It's not a solving mystery.
Speaker 2:It's already been solved. It's been proven through reports and everything like that.
Speaker 3:They leaked a bunch of crap. Dude, we all have to get chickens now.
Speaker 2:I mean you can't I mean chickens repopulate like rabbits, like they just literally just spawn out of nowhere.
Speaker 3:I think we should just start one in your bedroom over there, like a chicken coop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a chicken coop. Yeah, that would be so bad. It smells so bad.
Speaker 2:I'm sure it would be really good for the chickens to not ever be outside, never see daylight all this crap's been proven, though, and, aside from being on tiktok, proven like, it's been proven through like sources and stuff that people have linked through their instagrams from tiktok or whatever they're doing like they've leaked this stuff and it's been proven and it's like right there, like I could look at it right now if I wanted to. And right now Trump again. He's already released the MLK files, and Martin Luther King was pretty much like P Diddy. It was disgusting.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, he was a terrible person. Yeah, he was a terrible person Actually, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:He was going to orgies and all he was a reverend. Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2:That's what they all say. Yeah, I know it's. It's kind of a joke that I'm saying yeah, but no, like mlk he was, he was a literal pervert.
Speaker 3:He was going to orgies and all this other crap and yeah, like, but he had a great speech, so, oh yeah, let it pass.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah yeah and I did not know, that about him?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, they leaked all that information, and apparently, too, it wasn't even the guy that or no? I'm thinking of the JFK file. They proved that JFK was not assassinated I think it wasn't by Lee Oswald.
Speaker 1:So he's still alive.
Speaker 2:You're saying no, not JFK. No, Lee Oswald was murdered by another guy. Yeah, and so JFK is not alive. He's very much dead. But it was proven that there's cover-up to that when they link the files Surprising. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure again, I don't I haven't read them yet, but I'm pretty sure what everybody's saying again on tiktok is that it was obviously a government cover-up.
Speaker 3:They purposely the uh dude, that was the guy that was crazy.
Speaker 1:I mean, I wouldn't ever happen it was the guy that just happened this summer that's what it was.
Speaker 2:It was the guy that was running uh against jfk had him assassinated because he was like a running uh presidential campaigner or whatever because he didn't like him.
Speaker 3:Because he didn't like him, wow yeah that's why anytime anybody's like dude.
Speaker 1:I can't believe what happens in russia with vladimir putin. His opponents just mysteriously disappear.
Speaker 3:It's like that happens here that right happens in a lot in new mexico too yeah, it has like 40 people that were running for president oh yeah, new mexico, you mean mexico? Max. Yeah, sorry, not even to mexico.
Speaker 1:I was like the state like what's going on there?
Speaker 2:even in korea with kim jong-un. I'm sure like he's got people like already. If somebody wants to go against, well yeah that one is.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying people say that about other countries.
Speaker 2:It's like it happens here too yeah quite frequently, we're just cooler and then they also released what happened to with the drones. There was something in jersey where um it was, uh, fema is what it was, so the drones that were flying around in jersey and stuff that was fema trump's trying to shut down what is fema? Fema is like um I don't, I again I don't know, federal, something medical.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're like like there's a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right yeah I know that it's just I don't know exactly what they do.
Speaker 2:But I know it's not good and trump knows they're not good either. He's trying to shut him down right now, completely so well he, he's cutting a lot and he's doing a lot in like the what he's been president now for three weeks well, probably like because he got inaugurated on the 20th yeah, well, didn't he have like elon, isn't he did? But then elon messed up. Oh what he did the whole, he's already out. He did the whole nazi salute.
Speaker 1:He did it on live television, oh yeah, I don't think it was actually with a nazi salute did it was. It looked a little sketch it did look a little sketch, I'll agree, but if people knew, I'm not gonna do it because I know like as soon as I do it on camera. But, actually I don't have to show it, so this is the correct one when it's straightforward. And then this is what Elon did.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he did Dude, he was waving at somebody out in the crowd. You know what's up, guys.
Speaker 2:The one thing I will say about that too is that when Elon did that whole salute thing, is that they forget that they also posted pictures too, of Democratic people doing the same exact thing. So how can you point at Elon for doing the Nazi salute when there's plenty of other people that have done it, but nobody points it out?
Speaker 1:People keep asking that question. There's no doubt there's double standards. I stopped asking a long time ago.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, there is double standards, there's triple standards. I stopped asking a long time. Oh yeah, no, there is double there's triple standards um.
Speaker 1:What I want to know is if because I also I haven't been paying any news I have no idea about the jfk files? Yes, thank you, but I take a bow, I. So I don't know anything about the jfk files, but my question would be why would they keep those files anywhere? You think they would just try their best to completely delete them?
Speaker 2:yeah, like set them on fire, like how you see in cartoons, like we gotta burn the evidence and yeah, or something.
Speaker 1:It seems weird that it's like there was this big conspiracy to kill him, if it's true, by his opponent, and then they're just like okay, we did it. Now let's just like stash these files so someone can find them later it's also not in the technology age that that happened.
Speaker 3:Well, so like it'd be easier to burn is what I mean. Like to get rid of yeah, oh yeah, way easier.
Speaker 2:Because I mean, yeah, they had computers, because you know whatnot, but at the same time they weren't as advanced as, like, the right there.
Speaker 1:Did they have computers then?
Speaker 2:They were very old, like green.
Speaker 3:I thought it was in 91 that we got computers.
Speaker 2:No, I mean no, I'm talking like no, we've had computers for a minute.
Speaker 3:Maybe like a bit, oh, not like a computer.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking, yeah, it's not like this, but they'd have a huge thing on the wall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like a DSL or whatever they call it. It was a big mother computer thing.
Speaker 3:Actually, isn't that how they won World War II Was doing that.
Speaker 2:Computers. No, I don't think they had stuff like that.
Speaker 3:I thought they had the Morse code. They had to figure out the Morse code.
Speaker 2:They had radio and stuff. They had radios, are you?
Speaker 1:talking about the Imitation Game movie stuff they had radios. I was talking about like the imitation game movie, yeah, yeah, where they have to figure it out like yeah, I don't know if that was a computer they had like things, but it's like considered the first computer oh yeah, I'm figuring stuff out, but anyways yeah, I think computers were definitely around, maybe around the 60s I think computers are from the devil, just kidding
Speaker 2:now they? They had a lot of technological it not like again compared to like how we do of technological advances, but they had enough to where they could like. What you said is they could just burn it, no problem and get rid of it completely, but I'm sure in some cases they would still have backups of like oh yeah, we're burning it and making sure there's no evidence. But it's like how coca-cola there's only two people in the entire world that know the actual recipe and hold the recipe for coca-cola and they have to uh, they can't meet together, nobody knows their names and they um have to fly in separate private jets with, like, really like, tight security so glad we do that for the coke recipe I mean when my dad no right crazy so when my dad worked at meyer, he would have to get into a lockbox and there's three people that had to be present when they did that, because I think he knew like two of the numbers of the code.
Speaker 3:Somebody else had two numbers and then the third guy had a key to actually open the door. Yeah, so it's like yeah that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1:The coca-cola thing yeah, but killing a president versus a coca-cola recipe is a little different. I'm just so like I don't know why they would keep the evidence maybe because they thought at some point like.
Speaker 2:The people need to know like part of the whole, like first amendment, you know because jfk knew the, the recipe for coca-cola, and I'm just kidding it was the other one.
Speaker 1:He was the third guy that knew yeah, yeah, but they wouldn't want us to know the actual truth.
Speaker 2:No, but they always they even too on the news. They've already announced like what? Three or four times that aliens exist. And there's one under the water named Carl and he gets our humor and he loves us, but he doesn't want to make his appearance known Like I'm not even joking on that one.
Speaker 3:It was actually like on a new segment, like yeah, I still think that aliens are demons.
Speaker 1:They are there. It's a hundred percent demon. I don't think I'm confused. What we're talking about? Well, like just lost. I just got lost. Aliens, do you know? Do you know what aliens have?
Speaker 3:you heard of you don't know what aliens are no, don't know okay so yeah, yeah, but what about aliens, so well like on the news?
Speaker 1:he's saying that the news is coming out and saying the truth and I'm saying why would the american government ever want us to know the truth about jfk? You think they try their best forever to cover that up like the government likes to hide a bunch of crap.
Speaker 3:Well yeah, the news is supposed to be like an independent thing, that like an independent business that investigates the government, like it keeps the government in check. That's what it's supposed to be, but it doesn't do that anymore.
Speaker 1:But if you have something big, they're both. Yeah, they're both.
Speaker 3:They're both together now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Which isn't good.
Speaker 2:No, because they could be hiding a lot Like. I still believe that there's a conspiracy theory about the Titan submarine Because if you already knew it, now we're going in the towel.
Speaker 3:Where are?
Speaker 1:we going.
Speaker 2:This is all conspiracy stuff. That's like finding out, because Trump again, he's literally not. He's done more in his short term right now a presidency compared to Biden in his four years. He's releasing everything about the government. But let's go back to RFKk jfk jfk, not rfk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're rfk's in the. We don't need it.
Speaker 2:We do not need to go down the tight end no, no, no, I'm just, that's the only thing I'm bringing up is like the fact that they knew it exploded the day that it happened and then they made on this massive search about, oh we, they might have 96 hours of oxygen left and all this other stuff, but yet they knew it exploded underwater. So, oh, you're saying like the news. Just right, the news was like there's something covering it up, like at this point, same thing with the, the helicopter that happened to where it crashed in, the you know passenger plane. There's a cover-up. Something was either carried on that plane that wasn't supposed to, or something was on that helicopter that wasn't supposed to, or there was a certain person on there that wasn't supposed to be here or something entirely different happened and they're just using the story right to distract everybody from something else that's going on right and that's, that's how the government works and like what you're saying is like the two networks are like tied in now.
Speaker 2:So you have the government, the news network and they're covering up stuff together because the government obviously doesn't want everything like that's happened since rfk there's been a lot of stuff, since you mean jfk, jfk.
Speaker 3:Sorry I keep saying the wrong name.
Speaker 2:dude, he's thinking of Robert F Kennedy. Yeah, the guy that's.
Speaker 3:Yeah, seizure boy, he can't talk.
Speaker 2:I don't know how I feel about him either, if you listen to his voice for more than 10 minutes.
Speaker 3:you kind of get used to it, yeah, but it really sounds like he's seizuring.
Speaker 2:It's like Bernie Sanders, almost where he's sitting there with his gloves and stuff like that. Bernie sanders, like almost where he's just like he's sitting there with his gloves and stuff like that. He's like an old man farting around and then you get, even though he's a really smart guy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, he's a smart guy.
Speaker 1:I think he's a lot more well spoken than rfk, oh yeah well, anybody's more well spoken than him.
Speaker 2:And even biden biden was like american can be defined in one simple word have you ever seen that? Clip. Yeah, yeah, it's like crazy. I'm like how did you guys vote for him to be president at this point? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3:I mean well, the first, when he first got it, yeah, it wasn't that bad in 2020 but I feel like a lot of 2020 man I mean, that's classic not in 2020, but, like it was clearly evident, like things were going downhill from there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you also don't know how bad it's going to get.
Speaker 2:No, but I know right now, with Trump being in office for less than a month, like things have gotten already better. Well, I'm to a degree.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to all the way but I'm not going to sit here and celebrate too soon. I'm going to wait a little bit. I'm still finding out, because everyone's like, oh, look at all this great stuff that's happening. It's like it can't be too good to be true. Something is, something's up. Yeah, something's up, something's gonna happen.
Speaker 2:That's what I feel the only thing that I find right now a little bit sketch um, now that you mentioned that is again going back to the helicopter and stuff like that is like trump's not even saying, like, what exactly happened yet that's because he doesn't know. Well, I mean, as president, you're supposed to know literally everything. You're supposed to know if, like, mars is going to crash into earth by tomorrow.
Speaker 3:But they have to investigate it for him to get. Yeah, they still have to investigate it it happened two days ago, I mean was it two days ago.
Speaker 2:I feel like maybe a little bit longer. Maybe it's three now okay if it was that soon. I thought it was like maybe a week or so ago.
Speaker 3:I'm like there ain't no way. It was like three days ago and I was watching the news. I was like, oh shoot, maybe four if you count, because it was at nine o'clock at night, true?
Speaker 2:so okay that I just heard about it, like I think, yesterday and today, but yeah, I'm like I'm still hoping that like stuff will be revealed, because at this point, if he's already releasing the mlk and the jfk files and like the, the drones and what they were actually doing and stuff like this guy's on a roll already he's exposing the government for what they really were. So I'm okay with.
Speaker 3:I'm okay with that because wait, the government does bad things. I crazy surprising like that's the thing about jf.
Speaker 2:They're not good they invented the dmv. You know how long it takes for me to get my driver's license.
Speaker 1:You know way too long. Yeah, we all know the dmv it's ridiculous, don't you mean rfk?
Speaker 2:yeah, don't you mean RFK. Thanks guys, thanks.
Speaker 3:But JFK it's like oh, you guys told us exactly what we thought all along.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So I mean it's not like too much news. That is something also that seems a little too good to be true.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 2:It's a government cover-up and it was really the government that assassinated JFK Do you think it's too good to be true?
Speaker 3:Why? I think it's too good to be true that we're finding out about it. Oh yeah, but it's been so long.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, but I just think it's dumb. I just can't get over the fact that they would keep the files. I would think that they would get rid of them If I kill somebody. I'm not just going to leave their phone around so people can see the text messages of us trying to meet up.
Speaker 3:This is a terrible example, but I'm just saying, I see what you're saying, I would take the phone and just get rid of it.
Speaker 1:Put it in a fire, have it blow up or something. Get rid of all the evidence.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But this is like, let's just keep.
Speaker 3:Maybe they tried that but there's just too many people that knew yeah, it could be that and it's like are you what?
Speaker 2:you're just gonna go on a mass genocide, like hitler did with the jews, and just like kill everybody?
Speaker 3:no, actually a lot of the people that were present and at jfk's assassination.
Speaker 1:Assassination, like assassinate, assassination, uh, like ended up dead within like 20 years or so 25 years, and then even to like, I think they, I don't know 25 years it's definitely 25 years, that's not that's not that, yeah, but if you were 19, I suppose, but it's just like 25 years, it'd be one thing if it was like within six months, all these people died.
Speaker 3:Actually I don't know what the timeline was.
Speaker 2:I forgot what the timeline was, but very quickly, yeah, because if you are just killing people within that six months of some kind of national tragedy, that's a little bit sketch right there. You know what I?
Speaker 3:mean, maybe it was like 10 years.
Speaker 2:I could see if it was like 10 years, I could see If it was in, like in a time period Like, let's say, there's like 60 people and you did something like that for like 10 years and you knew something about the government that the government didn't want you to know about. Like, yeah, okay, cool. So like there's a couple random deaths you know this year.
Speaker 3:Okay, so a lot of them were strange deaths, yeah. So, that gives pause.
Speaker 2:Well, even too, like you guys know, about the guy with the water car. Yeah, how he died. Yeah, there was a guy that invented a car that ran purely on water and it could get from New York to California and, I think, back on one tank of water. So imagine if we had cars like that. You wouldn't need gas, you could just use water. And then it turns into, you know, it goes through the evaporation process.
Speaker 3:And then the water just disappears. So then we run out of water. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That would be crazy.
Speaker 2:No, it goes into the sky and then it just rains down, so it's continuously cycling through. We're making more clouds wow, I wonder if that would cause more rain. I mean, probably rain more, but like at the same time though it's like you're still using your car for, but at the same time.
Speaker 3:You'd never see the sun if it rained all the time yeah, but you want to live in seattle everywhere it would be natural, though, because it wouldn't be fumes which already black out the sun.
Speaker 2:And we already have like a hole in the ozone layer too.
Speaker 1:So like uh you're talking about.
Speaker 3:Like uh if it was gas cars greenhouse effect. Yeah Well just smog in there from gas cars.
Speaker 2:But this guy, he, I guess there was warming.
Speaker 2:I forget what company it was, but then it was also tied in with the government, where they were, um, trying to get this guy to sell them the idea for the car to keep or something like that, or keep his mouth shut. They were going to pay him billions of dollars and he's like no, I want to show people this. So he went on the news with it and then someone from the government found him. They sat him down with coffee or something like that at a diner, threatened him.
Speaker 1:They didn't think here, I brought this special sweetener for your coffee.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, literally like it was something stupid like that, and they put it in his drink and then all of a sudden, like he started, he went outside and he started choking. He's like they poisoned me and that was his last word, so it's like hmm, okay, so something that'll benefit the country and then also benefit the earth from using natural resources.
Speaker 3:But it doesn't benefit the oil company.
Speaker 2:Exactly. That's what it boils down to.
Speaker 3:You can't make money off of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because everything can't be free.
Speaker 3:So then it makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yep. So there's a lot of stuff that people have probably done too, other than the water car, that have like been more beneficial for the people compared to like even some places are like talking about like you know, like health care you know, and other places like they have, where, like I think china right now has it where you pay like 60 bucks like for their currency. It equals out to 60 us for the ambulance and the hospital trip and your prescription, not like separately, but together $60.
Speaker 3:That's pretty good.
Speaker 2:Right For me to get my fat butt in an ambulance. It's $5,000 here in America, or more.
Speaker 3:Sir, you need to talk better about yourself. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2:Like it's $5,000 plus to get in an ambulance. Then that's not even including because you have to pay for all the equipment that they use to save your life or whatever.
Speaker 3:And subsidized uh, release of what, yeah, you're paying for.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what you ask them and then on top of that too, then your prescription, if you have that. But there's a lot of people arguing that like, okay, if you're gonna make us pay these ridiculous prices and let's just say it's a life and death situation and you end up dying, then the family or whoever else, the hospital takes one for the team yeah but then again, if they did that, there wouldn't be any money for that, yeah.
Speaker 3:So what if it's a death and death? What do?
Speaker 2:you mean a death and death like somebody just comes in dead.
Speaker 3:They're gonna die anyways, they're just gonna let them I mean, there have been probably cases like that yeah like they're just gonna at that point, yeah, it's like okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, sorry the guy died, but I'm not gonna like send the 10 twin like 10, 20 000 bill over to his like cousin and be like hey you have to pay this.
Speaker 3:You go to federal. They still send the bill.
Speaker 2:They still want their money yeah, they do, and that's the who does it go to like a family member? It literally yeah, whoever like a surviving family member that's like close probably is they all go to your mom's house your mom opens up her mail. Why do I have a bill for 35 000 for kneecap surgery or something like that? It's like 35.
Speaker 3:That's it. It's pretty cheap, this man goes 35 000, that's a lot, that's like kneecap surgery.
Speaker 2:I don't know but then you go even too, even if you have a cold or something like that, or you feel like you're dying and they're like, oh, it's just a cold, they'll slap a band-aid on you and then charge you like two thousand dollars just to tell you that, like my doctor's appointment for me going in for food poisoning because I didn't know if it was like from chicken or whatever else that I had. I didn't know if it was actually food poisoning or not. I felt like it was the payment for me to go into the doctor's office because I was literally dying and had a fever and all this other crap. Like $150.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And yeah, $150 doesn't sound like a lot, but at the same time it's like for me to have a 20-minute conversation was $150. That's ridiculous. Yeah, it's sad. And again there's other countries, like again China, that, like you, pay $60.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's highway larceny, but it obviously didn't work. The food poisoning.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just kidding. Highway larceny, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, I've always heard highway robbery.
Speaker 3:Robbery larceny. It's probably the same thing, I just never heard somebody use the other term. Yeah, the whole medical place is move to china yeah, just move dude here's the thing.
Speaker 2:This is what people say. They come, they're like well, if you hate it so much in america and everything's wrong about it, then why don't you just move? The thing is is that there's people out there like me that we should change the systems here.
Speaker 3:I would america.
Speaker 2:If I had to, I would fight for this country, and that's why I like talk about, because, like amen, what a saint over here because I think, like this country, is worth fighting for at that point. I lived and breathed here and I was born and, obviously, raised here. So I believe that this land is. We need to make it what it used to be in the 1700s 1700s, we threw tea into the ocean to freaking. Uh I I don't know why I'm stumbling on this. Boston, boston, yeah.
Speaker 3:Boston Tea Party. Boston Tea Party, that's what it's called.
Speaker 2:For a 2% tax Only two. Yeah 2%, yeah, so, and now we have everything skyrocketing. So why isn't anybody doing anything about it, right? So why? Not make America what it used to be, where everything's fair and not obviously free. Free, but you know what I mean the land of the free, where we can have our own freedoms, because they're trying to, and that's the whole thing because you go to jail.
Speaker 3:That's why now, but I mean, yeah, you go to jail, answer if you have freedom of speech, you go to jail.
Speaker 2:If you want second amendment rights, you go to jail. The thing is is that that's where I thought with the tiktok ban, I'm like, okay, they're banning it, that's taking away a form of freedom of speech. And that's where, also, too, I feel like with the whole covet thing, where they mandated everyone to stay inside, they're testing stuff, because that's exactly how martial law works. You know, if trump were to declare martial law, or even biden, when he was in office, declare martial law, we would have to be under mandation. If they told us to stay inside, like they did in 2020, guess what would happen? We would have to stay inside. There would be curfews, just like there were during COVID.
Speaker 1:I blame it on low testosterone, that's true.
Speaker 2:There's not enough aggression in men to do anything. No, it's a rarity and a half that you will find anybody that would be willing to like just go out there if they wanted to actually defend this country at this point. Grant, we have troops. I know I met on laziness.
Speaker 1:there's that too, because laziness yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying like oh, low testosterone is just like laziness. I mean, in our echo chambers we see like guys going hard and doing david goggins, but that's your algorithm yeah but you also have to remember that there is 70 of america is overweight, with 52 being morbidly obese right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I wouldn't say that's necessarily a guy problem.
Speaker 1:I think that's just in general a person problem in general, yeah, but I'm just saying like, in that group of people there is plenty of guys, and guys are what, sorry to say it lead the weak. They lead the world when they're strong, yeah, and so I think that I honestly think it's like a spiritual thing so the devil knows that weak men destroy societies yeah and so when you see strong men like's, why?
Speaker 1:that's why people don't like JD Vance and Trump, because when somebody presses on them something, they don't back down from their opinion, and the majority of people don't like strong men like that, who don't like conform to their way, speak their mind or anything. Yeah, they just speak their mind and then when the media or whoever is interviewing them wants to, wants them to back down from that opinion, they don't do it. No.
Speaker 2:And so people hate that.
Speaker 3:Or they try to twist their words. Yeah, that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they've already tried to do that with JD Vance a lot too. Jd Vance, I think, is great and if he does run for president I will be voting for him. But that's the thing is like, if you look at like news outlets and how when they interview him, he does not back down and he's the same way as Trump. He calls them idiots. If they try to do a loophole and try to like make him switch up the wording to make it look like he's saying something bad, he literally instantly realizes what they're doing. Same way with Trump and he goes I'm not going to answer that stupid question. Like you're an idiot.
Speaker 2:And then Trump with the news media, it's hilarious. Like there's a news reporter girl that like stood up and she was like trying to say, oh well, you're trying to blame the Biden administration. He goes yes, it was. And for you asking a dumb question, sit down. Like he does not care. And that's the one thing is again, it's like what you're saying. People don't like when they have to be. Like it's like time to buck up, buddy, you're not a kid anymore. Yeah, you're right time to grow up. You're making excuses now at this point as to why you can't. It's like people making excuses for everything. I will say, though, with the tiktok ban, ben and jerry's ice cream came forward and they actually started a march from tikt, and there were thousands of people.
Speaker 3:What do you mean? A march, what do you mean?
Speaker 2:There was like a whole like not a riot, but like a march that was going to the White House in DC.
Speaker 3:Saying we have to have TikTok.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like because businesses were literally like most of their revenue and stuff like that also does come from TikTok, because of how popular it was.
Speaker 3:I was going to say how does Ben Jerry's have to do?
Speaker 2:that. Well, there's big-time companies that agree with what Trump has to say and offer for the company. So Ben Jerry's is on that side of the fence where they're like, yeah, no, we agree with Trump because you're taking away a form of freedom of speech at that point, if you get rid of TikTok and it's again that's where it all comes into play is, I feel, like, with the government it's coming into? There's the 2020 COVID mandate. You have to stay inside curfew all this other crap.
Speaker 2:You have to have special papers to be an essential worker right.
Speaker 3:And then you have the TikTok ban, which had freedom of speech.
Speaker 2:People were allowed to post stuff about the government. People were allowed to post stuff about the government. People were allowed to post stuff about, you know, trans rights or whatever else they have going on.
Speaker 3:But then you have it yeah, I will fight for your right to say whatever the heck you want right and so.
Speaker 2:But they were again with the tiktok ban. They were taking that away and I think at that moment people were like, regardless if you're buddhist or if you're trans, if you're gay, whatever, like we're coming together and we're not gonna let this crap happen.
Speaker 3:You just use a different media outlet. They did, they were they went all straight to red note and red notes a chinese 100 owned app and it hey, let's just subsidize this chinese or this other app for another well, the government is like well, china's so bad and they're leaking all of our information.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool, since you're going to take away our stuff, that was like made here, we're just going to go to China then, because you're not clearly doing anything about it Go to China.
Speaker 1:I feel like that's not the best idea.
Speaker 2:No, to go to China, and the app was called Bread no and you had to agree to Chinese law that you weren't allowed to post about certain things or whatever. Talk bad about.
Speaker 3:They're like oh, my freedoms are taken away, but a lot of people from.
Speaker 2:TikTok, though, fled to Redno, and the government realized like oh, we made a mistake banning TikTok.
Speaker 3:So they were, because at that point, yeah, you're going to be leaking almost everything and anything about anybody at that point going to a straight 100 chinese app.
Speaker 2:If that's what they're, so why didn't they just put better defenses against it? Because that's my question.
Speaker 3:They don't want to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this takes way too much time, way too much right, but now it's like they have to, because now tiktok is like the biggest platform ever in the world well, the conspiracy was that they wanted to get rid of tiktok, not only because of china, china's chinese influence, but because it was helping conservative talking points yeah because, trump, because trump did gain, I think, like five million followers.
Speaker 1:I don't know how much, how long it took, but it was quick, and then biden had way less than that, and so they could see that hip yeah probably pretty much, and so they could see that the younger generation was moving to the right, and it was tiktok was helping with that, because facebook was pulling their thing oh, yeah, also too.
Speaker 2:Like that was the other thing with facebook and instagram anything owned by meta, with mark zberg that guy. So it was funny because moments before I'm not even joking moments before TikTok was banned, facebook made a TikTok account and so did Instagram Anything Meta made a TikTok account. So now there's a whole thing about is TikTok really owned by Meta or not, and the funny part here's the funniest thing about is TikTok really owned by Meta or not?
Speaker 2:And the funny part here's the funniest part about it right, so I experimented the funny part so they said if you right now because now I'm getting the actual news sources that I got once before from TikTok from blocking Facebook and Instagram on TikTok their accounts completely, from blocking Facebook and Instagram on TikTok their accounts completely, if you and people have shown this, if you don't block their accounts or anything like that, you're not going to get the full media source that you may have followed, like about exposing the government or anything else that you may have gotten before. The algorithm is like way worse compared to blocking them. So when I didn't block them, when I first found this out, I was like, oh okay, so I'm not seeing anything about. Like I was seeing a lot of stuff about how, like Trump is bad and he should, you know, die and everything else like that.
Speaker 2:And then there was like very minimal news outlets about the California fires. Like there was hardly anything. Like there'd be maybe one tiktok through like every thousand ish scrolls, whatever you want to say for the mathematics, but when you block that account, then you're seeing everything again. So is tiktok really owned by meta at this point or is it owned by another you know person? Because there was a lot of people trying to buy tiktok. Mr beast was trying to buy it. Uh, I don't know the government was trying to do something with it.
Speaker 3:Mark zuckerberg was trying to elon musk was trying to too and you know, you know, I don't, I don't know, I don't care, because I don't have tiktok there was at all, so like there's a lot you said you were gonna ask me about tiktok. No idea, dude, I just don't have. It so I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't really have it either. I would only use it to post clips of the podcast, and then I would delete the app because I just hate being on it. I just it's easy to get stuck in the.
Speaker 2:It is the doom scrolling as it as it is like don't, it is very addictive, don't get me wrong, but I look at it is I mean.
Speaker 3:So is facebook and instagram, I mean reels are pretty much the same.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the same thing. There's no difference.
Speaker 2:No, it's just. Again, it's a form of. To me, after finding a bunch of stuff out and actually really digging into the research of everything that was coming out, it's a form of freedom of speech. Yeah, and if you take that away from the people, what do you have left?
Speaker 3:you know they were already trying to take away the second amendment, communism. Yeah, exactly, you literally have a communist. Obviously, if you can control a population, I mean that's kind of what government is trying to do yeah, has been trying to do not even I'm not even saying democrats compared to republicans. I think republicans are doing that too right, trying to Trying to get more power.
Speaker 2:And Biden too. Here's one thing. So I own a gun and the thing is is when Biden was in office and this was happening in February, I think of 2021 of when this was happening is he was making a law. By February. If you own a gun or you're trying to buy a gun like a sidearm, like pistol, whatever, by that date, you would have to pay for the, obviously, the gun, but you wouldn't be able to get your gun to take a cpl class. Now they're trying to do it to where, if I don't.
Speaker 3:I don't think that's necessarily a bad idea, because some people just don't know how to use a gun correctly, not, but it's like also too.
Speaker 2:It's like okay, you, anybody could like right now if I wanted, even though it'd be like a federal offense. At this point I have open carry. Do you think I'm gonna straddle my pistol like out in the open?
Speaker 3:no, that's illegal, but there's people that's called flashing right.
Speaker 1:Anyways, there's people if you have it in a holster, yeah.
Speaker 3:If you have it a holster, well yeah yeah, but I mean like if you go to reach or, if you like, pull it out of the holster, that's called flashing.
Speaker 2:Even if you don't point it at somebody, that's still like okay like there's a, there's somebody I won't say their name because they got in trouble for this crap but there was a guy that started an altercation at a liquor store that was near the area where I lived at and I knew somebody got shot. I knew the guy. No, I knew the guy. Somebody got shot. I knew the guy. No, I knew the guy. And he came into the drugstore. Another guy started an altercation with him.
Speaker 2:The guy that started the altercation flashed his gun, lifted his shirt, and then the guy that I know did the same thing. He had like one of those straps where you could hold the pistol on your chest or whatever, and he flashes and he goes. If you want to go, bro, we'll go. I got mine right now and ultimately, like, I mean, I still talk to him and whatnot, but it was still pretty bad seeing that crap on CCTV camera. And that's the whole thing is. People illegally carry guns too, and I get where there's pros and there's cons to that, but it's like you're trying to like make more rules for carrying a gun. And the other thing is, too, is school shootings. There was just another one recently where, like, I think, six kids died and they're like, and then again the killer killed himself because he didn't want to have the repercussions or anything of his actions.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I heard about this yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's like you're trying to minimize firearms being legal at this point and trying to make all these loopholes in order to get oh well, you can buy one, but you have to be over 21. Oh well, even if you're over 21, now you have to have a cpl. Oh, and then you're also not allowed to do this. You only can buy certain pistols, you can only buy this. But now they're doing it to where Trump right now is trying to make it like ban this law or get rid of it, where Biden was trying to make it, to, where, if you were under 21, you or it was like you had to be well over 21, like you had to be like in your 30s or 40s, to buy a gun.
Speaker 2:That's crazy yeah, and so it was like no, we're not doing that at all and so he's getting all that taken care of. But they're making it like to an extent again, this is with the biden administration. They were making it harder and harder and harder to have freedom of speech unless you abided to. You know that side of the fence, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean otherwise, you're homophobic, you're transphobic, you're whatever I mean, just look at bigger cities like chicago and detroit, where there is a gun ban. How many guns are?
Speaker 2:there, and how many chicago, how many? Well, in new york too, apparently.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it doesn't matter where it is right, like I'm just saying that as an example and put it in the whole country, and then that's what you're going to get.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:There's still going to be criminals with guns.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so like you're just taking them out of the ground and nobody's going to listen. No, I don't understand it. They, they.
Speaker 3:they're never going to listen to you saying that, or anybody but that's right and I mean, you know, if you close your ears off?
Speaker 1:yeah, I'm not saying you, I'm just saying those people, I know, I'm just saying it's like, it's a great point, but like they just start like whatever and then they just, they just don't care.
Speaker 3:It's just weird, because it's the same thing with freedom of speech, though yeah, that you're bringing up is like they're attacking that too yeah, attacking freedom of speech.
Speaker 2:The is like they're attacking that too, yeah, attacking freedom of speech, the Second Amendment. They're going to keep going after stuff in the Constitution, and even right now too, like I know this I don't know what kind of touchy subject this might be, but you know like how, right now, they're sending ICE agents to find illegals. Ice, what is ISIS?
Speaker 1:Y'all are so out of touch, ice agents. Ice, yeah, ice, yeah, isis. Y'all are so out of touch, ice agents. I-c-e.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I-C-E.
Speaker 3:I am out of touch.
Speaker 2:You're right, okay, go ahead, and I mean that with respect.
Speaker 1:I avoid the news and I still hear about this, so I don't know.
Speaker 2:You must be living under a rock, and I mean it with respect. I'm not being like, whether it's Mexico, that's great, right, that's what I'm saying. But the news outlets are saying oh, all Mexicans are going back to Mexico.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, ago, yeah, oh yeah, and they're tearing families apart and it's like okay, but you're okay, like you can look at a kid and be like, okay, your dad murdered like 30 people at one of our schools and somehow got away with it and it's like, so he can you. Would you rather have a criminal be here? That's illegal. First of all, like I don't want any criminals in here, obviously, but when you have an illegal migrant who comes in here, I better, better leave. And they don't again. They don't do taxes, they don't do anything like that. They just come here, they kill and they just live here for free, while I'm sitting here paying $2,000 out of every paycheck where I could be getting an extra $2,000 more so I could pay more taxes Dang how much money you make if you're paying $2,000?.
Speaker 2:In a hypothetical situation yeah, but you taxes how much money you make. If you're paying two thousand in a hypothetical situation, yeah, but you know what I mean and so, yeah, that's. The whole thing is the news is making trump to be this racist bad guy because he's deporting mexicans. It's like no, he's deporting anybody.
Speaker 1:That's illegal and a criminal to go back to their countries they're they're going after, like the ones that are committing crimes and I think they do want to work with the ones that are illegal, that are committing crimes, and I think they do want to work with the ones that are illegal, that are normal, like they're just trying to make a living like a grandma and her like her grandchildren like they.
Speaker 1:They're obviously not going to be like yo get out of here like they want to work they should I I think that I don't have a problem with them working with like people like that, because maybe they were trying to escape something. Obviously they still did break the law. The law.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, their governments and stuff like that are like what they're saying is like Mexico is corrupted right now with their leader and stuff like that. Same thing with China, same thing with Korea. That's why all these people are coming here illegally, because they want to escape their government.
Speaker 3:I think we shouldn't let anybody in, we should just close it off completely.
Speaker 1:That's what he's trying to do have a great wall of America.
Speaker 2:He's pretty much trying to close it down, so nobody can get in or out at that point for illegals and stuff which I'm okay with.
Speaker 3:We're going to make it out of gold.
Speaker 1:And the other thing is. The other thing too is like the wall. People generally who are on, who don't like America, are on the left. And so now people on the left are talking about how, like we were born we, we won the lottery by being born here and they should be able to come here. It's like. Well, five months ago, this was the worst place on earth to live right.
Speaker 2:And now you're like praising it, and now you're praising.
Speaker 1:It's like so what is it right like? If it's so terrible, why do you want people to come here?
Speaker 2:right. And there are people too that, like they complain about how bad it is and like miley cyrus, ellen degeneres whoever else, like all these celebrities. Tom hanks even too. He's like well, I'm getting out of here because trump's president it's like okay, cool, bye, don't come back well, I'm pretty sure a lot of them were on diddy's list, so oh yeah, there's that too, the diddy list. Yeah, trump's are. I think trump's trying to get that leaked out, not Not?
Speaker 3:the Diddy List.
Speaker 2:Yeah no, they're exposing everybody and so they're just like get out of here quick, because then at that point I won't have the repercussions of anything.
Speaker 3:I heard Parker was on the list.
Speaker 1:Yep, I was at a Diddy party. That's scary.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding, ain't no party like a Diddy party, I think stuff in minor went too. I was hosting it, you know. You think it was ditty.
Speaker 1:We're going to move on.
Speaker 3:Now we're shut down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're going to move on, we're shut down. But like that's how it is, though, is with these, you know, everybody's like fleeing and they're saying they hate it, and then like they're saying, oh, now it's great and it's like you, just because you win the lotto, everything's all fine and hunky dory now, no, that's not the case.
Speaker 1:No, it's not that they won the lottery.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying like back to your thing, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I do think too, with, like, the immigrants that are coming in, like what he was saying is like, obviously they're working with the people that are here that are trying to just get a normal life going. I'm all OK by that life going, I'm all okay by that. And jd vance brought up something actually really nice is. He said that like we do want to work with these people because and he wants to get the american dream back in order to because the american dream was like you know, you have a nice home, you have a wife and kids, you know nice car, whatever it is. You know, whatever you define as the american dream is what you define as the american dream. Yeah, and you know, immigrants did help build this country. I'm not I'm not one of those people that are like, oh, get every immigrant out of here. You know, because technically we're immigrants I'm not I
Speaker 2:just think they should come back like come in, correctly they should come in correctly and then for the people that are here legally, that are normal, the government should work with them on a process to get them Define normal.
Speaker 3:That's what I was getting to is they're trying to make a normal life.
Speaker 2:They're trying to get a nice family thing going. Maybe their home in Mexico, or wherever they came from, wasn't the best and they're just trying to make an honest living.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you're coming here and you want to work and contribute to society.
Speaker 2:Right then, go for it, bro. I'm all for it.
Speaker 3:Then they should probably leave.
Speaker 2:Good Lord.
Speaker 3:Rough crowd.
Speaker 2:They should be allowed to come in and I'm cool with that. But yeah, if you're shooting up schools or you're dealing drugs or selling illegal, firearms, then there's a difference.
Speaker 1:Well, here's one of the arguments. There's white kids shooting up schools.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and those kids should be just banned or death penalty.
Speaker 3:I think we should get rid of white people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1:I want to know what's going on with the whole school shooting.
Speaker 2:America's just full of. It is what it is.
Speaker 1:It is America's got the most school shootings like yeah, we also have the most access to guns, but why is it? Because so? Why is it happening more now? Because before you would bring your shotguns and rifles to school and go hunting afterward after school it would be in your car, so it's like that's a good point. People are claiming it's not a mental health thing. It's like then what is it?
Speaker 2:I think it's. It's a combination of mental health and it's a combination of other things too, so like because there are kids that'll just go in their parents like room, they'll open up the closet and oh, somebody forgot to lock the gun safe, and so they're thinking, oh, I seen call of duty. And then they blame video games. That's the other thing too. The government is trying to ban, like certain video games with guns and crap in here, because of the fact, like, oh, it's an inspiration for you know school shootings.
Speaker 2:Cause, if you remember the modern warfare to mission.
Speaker 1:I can remember that.
Speaker 3:I don't think it's solid enough to say it's just video games, though no, but that's what they're trying to do.
Speaker 2:Is they're trying to blame it, like, like the modern warfare to warfare 2 no russian where you shoot up an entire airport. I know, yeah, I've played it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember I remember I just I held the trigger down I dude, I hated that like it told you you could skip it or not, and then it's like oh, okay, cool, I guess I'll skip it, or I'm like, I'm intrigued, I'll play it, but it's like this is like disturbing I just it was pretty disturbing, yeah, when I think about it, and I was disturbing that like I played the episode and, I think, black ops 6.
Speaker 2:Right now, the newest call of duty is uh, I did that. I haven't played the campaign in a minute, but I think they did do something with, like, where you can go through um, a, like a cut scene or a you know a mission where you have to shoot up something. They actually at first I think they went through the data files and they were going to do a 9-11 sequence where you get to play as one of the hijackers.
Speaker 1:No way that's so wrong dude.
Speaker 3:The whole game is based off government conspiracy is Black Ops 6.
Speaker 2:But the Cold War?
Speaker 3:and everything.
Speaker 1:Before we move on to video games, I want to say you have to be deranged, yeah, to go shoot up a school as a kid. So I'm just wondering, like, what is getting these kids heads?
Speaker 2:but they also the other thing is do something like that.
Speaker 2:Well, that's where I'm like relating it to, because if you get a game like okay, think about it, six-year-old timmy is playing grand theft auto. This is where I'm getting with the video game tie-in. He's thinking oh, they shoot a gun and you know, grant early grand theft auto, there's like no blood because it was like really low rendered graphics. So all you do is see a guy fall over and he's, he's sleeping or whatever. He's not moving. So a little kid could just go in his dad's closet or mom's closet, grab the gun, bring it to school and think the same thing's gonna happen. It's gonna be a fun little thing.
Speaker 2:Well, it's generally not like some six-year-old kid, no but as like you know, what I'm saying is like, but it's not it doesn't pertain to actual real life no, I know there's six years old no, I know that, but like that's just as an example is.
Speaker 2:What I'm saying is like there's people out there that like there have been kids that have been that young, that have done that. You just don't. It's not as common as like a teenager, like junior, senior year you know what I mean. That brings like an ak-47 and it just starts blasting everything I would love to see that study.
Speaker 3:To be honest, it's me too that case.
Speaker 1:In general, and also are you saying that you do agree that video games?
Speaker 3:no, I'm not saying that no, are you saying it's one of the things?
Speaker 2:I'm just saying that's what the government is trying to pin it on, right?
Speaker 1:I'm saying, like what is it? Because you have to be deranged as a teenager to go and do something like that, Right, you have to be really messed up.
Speaker 3:I think it's medication. I think it's a lot of things it could be medication. I think it's also bad, like parenting in general. Yeah, because if you're not teaching your kids, you have nothing to lose. You want to commit suicide. So then you're like, well, I might as well take other people that I freaking hate.
Speaker 1:I can say that I went through like I went through bullying in high school. I went through like why and I commit suicide. Never once did I ever think of like right same here. I mean that, and if like that thought did cross my mind because like people are crazy, sometimes they think you can think crazy things I never was like put it to action, right like you?
Speaker 3:yeah, but you're you. I mean, I think it also depends on the brain chemistry of like, how that affects them.
Speaker 1:Medication I didn't think about medication it might be have something to do with medication.
Speaker 2:Cause? I don't think.
Speaker 1:I mean, how many times do you see a prescription medicine on TV commercials for depression? And then it also says, if you have suicidal thoughts with this medicine that's supposed to help that, consult your doctor.
Speaker 2:It's like what? Well, antidepressants also make you more depressed sometimes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying Like what?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, like, if you feel depressed on this antidepressant, consult your doctor. Like what on earth you were supposed to like make it so I didn't feel that way.
Speaker 2:And it says too, like in the fine print, it says it may make your suicidal thoughts more like alive. At that point, dude it live at that point.
Speaker 3:It all comes back to money.
Speaker 1:With the medication, it's like they're all trying to make money so they don't really care.
Speaker 3:No, they don't give a rats yeah, you know anyways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they just don't care um wow you said the right one this time, I know right I've already slipped twice um, but yeah, I just think it's weird. Yeah, so I would say it is. I think it's mental health and medication, because independent.
Speaker 3:I think it can depend a lot on the person.
Speaker 1:If you have a psychotic break.
Speaker 3:I mean you don't have a second. When was the last time you had a psychotic break, caleb?
Speaker 1:I don't think I ever have Never.
Speaker 3:No, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm saying, but but what my point is that it's people are blaming it on there's more access to guns now than ever before, which I don't believe. Oh yeah, no, that's total bullcrap. Yeah, I think that's like where you're getting that information right, especially because, like, if you get caught with a shotgun in your truck and you, even if you said, hey, I'm just taking a hunting, you're not, it's not gonna fly these days. No, but you could do that, like back in the 70s, you could say hey, yeah I'm going, you could also try to drive back.
Speaker 3:I don't know it could fly. I mean you might get well here, get arrested and then they'll.
Speaker 2:They'll be like oh yeah, it is well, here here's an example as a gun owner. So right.
Speaker 2:But I'm saying back in the 70s they just pass it by like oh, whatever like nowadays, like for my pistol, since I don't have a cpl, um, I have to. So this is how it is for pistols at least. Again, I don't have a shotgun, so I just I don't know how that works, but you basically have to have the gun and you have to have a safe with a code on it, and then you have to have, um, or you know, with a code or whatever, like a lock or something and it has to be behind you somewhere not accessible to, where you could just like reach down to the table and grab it or whatever, in your car or wherever, and you have your own house no, okay isn't.
Speaker 2:I'm just talking like in the car, so like in your car, like you have your safe or whatever.
Speaker 2:You got your lock box with the gun behind you, you have to have the magazine. You can have the magazine, I believe, loaded, but you have to have the magazine. You can have the magazine, I believe, loaded, but you have to have the magazine out of the gun. You can't have anything in the chamber and it has to obviously be like unaccessible. So, and obviously if a cop comes up and he pulls over for speeding, he's like do you have any weapons or anything? And you have to say obviously at that point, yes, I do, it's, you know, behind me in a safe. And if you get caught with the magazine in the gun, even if it's not cocked or anything like that, or if you have one in the chamber or anything like that, and it's ready to go, like if you have that there, you're done. They can arrest you right there at that point because that is suspicious activity. But if somehow you have the magazine out and separate from the gun without anything in the chamber, you're fine.
Speaker 3:That's totally crazy to me, dude. I would always have mine cocked.
Speaker 2:I get it because cops though, they do have a dangerous. There's corrupt cops and there's good cops, and cops have their lives on the line 24-7, so, yeah, I don't blame them for wanting that rule, because if I had a gun that was locked and loaded, even if it was in a safe and it looked locked at that point, let's just say the cop— what's the point of even having a gun if you just don't have it ready?
Speaker 3:But that's the thing.
Speaker 2:You could be just taking your pistol out because you're going to go shooting at a range or something like that. You know what I mean. Just don't get pulled over.
Speaker 3:It's easy there yeah, there is that, but even even then, it's like the only other.
Speaker 2:It's my right to have my gun, the only accessible right, the only other thing that's confusing too is motorcycle rules, when it comes to having a gun too, because apparently, like, even if you have like just a regular license to like open carry somehow, like how do you make that work on a motorcycle because you have saddlebags and that's it, that's all you have for your luggage carrying. So technically you're concealing a weapon if you get pulled over on a motorcycle by a cop. And even in my jacket I have a concealer pocket that's on both sides, so if I'm carrying my double strap, get your CPL.
Speaker 2:I know I'm going to this year, I'm going to get my CPL and everything like that. I think it's like 150 bucks, which ain't bad. It's like uh, I think it's the same day course. You just go in there you take a couple like, or you hear a lecture and then they give you a pistol or whatever you're planning on getting your cpl for, or whatever, and then you just go to a range and you fire it and they make sure you're good to go. And if they feel like you're good, whatever you fire it, there's like every single bullet misses.
Speaker 2:They're like you're good there's also like 30 million questions of like before you even buy a gun. Like there's like stuff about like do you, are you using any?
Speaker 3:drugs, can you say don't worry about it. Are you a criminal if?
Speaker 2:you say you're not gonna get a gun, don't worry about it, don't?
Speaker 3:worry about it, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2:But yeah, everyone but then they also like check your background and stuff. So like for me, you know, my name is my last name is very common. My first name has a unique spelling to it. There's not too many people with an F-A-N instead of a P-H-A-N or E-N or whatever. However you spell Stefan. So my thing came through like that I got my gun same day and everything. So my brother, on the other hand, he has a generic, like very generic first and last name. So his first name is John, john Doe. So he literally pretty much I mean, he literally has to go through. He took him like I think, two, three weeks for him to be able to get his gun every time and he has, like I think, three or four.
Speaker 2:He lives in michigan yeah, I live with him. Oh okay, I was just. I was just. Can I just flew by say it might be? Different um no, I think with different states it might be different, like I think Texas has different rules for gun safety or whatever.
Speaker 3:That's what I think is crazy is like California, you can't like have most of those guns in general.
Speaker 2:It's crazy, though they're full of loonies. I'm like is that?
Speaker 3:how is it even allowed that the state is overstepping the federal government of like?
Speaker 2:you can't have that right, but hollywood owners can alec baldwin, can shoot a guy and get away with murder, but like if some, of course it's out that's the, that's still a dumb thing to me is the whole thing with alec baldwin. They went through that whole court case and he pleaded like not guilty. I guess at the end is what the jury decided.
Speaker 1:Well, what did he? It wasn't an accident technically, because he thought it was going to be shooting a blank technically yes, but technically no, because it's like I mean technically yes, but technically no.
Speaker 2:He held the gun and he was and in the scene he was too close to the actor, because even if you fire a blank, it can still technically kill someone or injure them seriously if you're too close.
Speaker 2:So he was already too close in the scene that he was shooting, but they told him where to stand they told him where to stand, but it was his choice to get closer, so he got closer and then the gun went off and obviously the person died and so they went to court with that. So but alec baldwin's rich and famous, so he can get away with murder. But I, even if I went up and did the same exact scene with the same exact gun, same exact blank or whatever it was, and did the same thing, my butt would be in prison.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I'm just a regular schmojo who makes less than like $40,000 a year.
Speaker 3:You know yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm not in any Hollywoodllywood I mean, isn't that still just? It's a double standard?
Speaker 3:isn't it just accidental manslaughter?
Speaker 2:it's uh, what do they call it? I think it's not manslaughter. It would be like, uh, I don't know if it's like first degree.
Speaker 3:I think they got them for like first degree murder is what they were trying to push yeah, which is pretty much accidental yeah, I, I forget the technical term for it, yeah, it's yeah it's like if you hit somebody with their car, that would be considered that's like they walk yeah, but if they walked out in front of your car and you hit them and you didn't mean to hit them?
Speaker 1:yeah, it would be accidental walk and it would be first degree though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think there's like first, second and third degree murder or something like that.
Speaker 3:I think there's only three degrees of murder.
Speaker 2:And then it turns into like, okay, you committed a genocide or you committed a mass murder right, and that's fourth degree yeah, I mean pretty much that's pretty much what it is, it's fourth degree murder, like you just went full adolf hitler pretty much it's crazy, like the people that go and shoot schools yeah, yeah, they.
Speaker 2:I think honestly at this point, like my my thing it's the same thing with the pedophiles out there is that if there's a school shooter that just decides to shoot up a school and kills like innocent children and parents and teachers, they're probably a pedophile. No, like they deserve the same punishment that they. Like. I look at it as like it's an old term, but like the babylonian term is like an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. So yeah you take a life, you're dead.
Speaker 3:And then oh yeah, we should definitely hang people, yeah, and I don't know you know what's funny? Death penalty let's.
Speaker 2:I think somebody was I think somebody was trying to talk about public hanging coming back.
Speaker 1:I think there's like only one state that does it right now. Mass shootings, because I feel like they get their fame from it when they commit these mass shootings and then they just get to sit in prison for the rest of their lives and right and they get like a free meal free bedding and like recess and
Speaker 2:everything else, they should definitely die yeah, and then same thing with pedophiles too, like I'm just like it's ridiculous that was delivered very coldly it does, they do, they do. They deserve death if they're gonna just sit there in a very public way.
Speaker 3:Imagine if they were just like yeah, we're gonna hang you naked. Oh, you know, I don't know that would be crazy I dude what.
Speaker 1:What so okay, what a way to go. How do we back up death penalty as a Christian?
Speaker 3:That's a good question.
Speaker 1:It is a good question that is a good question, holy crap. As long as it's the government doing it, it's not my problem.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry to me. In the Christian aspect of things, I know how it says you're supposed to forgive and everything like that. I'm not going to forgive somebody for touching a kid. I'm sorry. I don't care if you're going to call it a mental illness or not, or if you were touched as a kid. That person deserves to die. You deserve to die. I don't care what happened to you Even at that point, if you were even set up and you still did it. Sorry, and that could go for literally anybody.
Speaker 3:I am chris hansen chris hansen, why don't you have a seat right here? Be like yeah, we just have god's judgment on earth before you, right, and I'm I'm sorry to me.
Speaker 2:I really again it's, it's the whole thing of like if you're touching, like in prison, you know what's funny is in prison for pedophilia you like there is an actual prison person who went in there for murder or something like that. If you don't tell everybody in that prison what you're in prison for, like if, if you, even if it's like pedophilia right or rape or whatever you want to do or whatever they did, whatever you want to do that's not what I meant, I didn't mean it.
Speaker 2:I meant like whatever I know what you meant, but like if you don't tell them and then they later find out, like you hit it completely right. And then they find out later oh, you touched a kid, they will beat the crap out of you until you die. And there's like high level security for pedophiles and everything like that, because there are some cops too. That will just be like I'm just going to turn the camera this way and five of you a minute inmates. Do whatever you want to this pedophile, whether you kill them or you don't kill them. What if you want to rape them?
Speaker 3:do whatever they're human exactly so to me.
Speaker 2:I think pedophiles definitely deserve death, and there's no going around it at that point because even from a christian point of view, you can't back it up.
Speaker 3:No, but you just can't. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can't, you can't back it up, and I think too the other funny part is there was another topic is like what if they're like pleading for their life, okay, castrate them. They don't have, they no longer have the tool does that's not what castrating is or I thought it was.
Speaker 1:Don't you remove the?
Speaker 3:the peen no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the peenar no.
Speaker 3:How are you going to go to the bathroom? There's just Well, you remove, you remove the, you know, the testicles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is a scientific appropriate term.
Speaker 2:Right, and then for women.
Speaker 3:they just stitch it on up Me, not do that at all.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I that at all. Um, but yeah, I think from a christian standpoint I don't know if I can back up the death penalty, but if the government chooses to kill somebody, that's on, that's on them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's how I would say it like yeah, which? Yeah, I agree with that. But you know, yeah, there's no basis of. Yeah, you just christian, you just can't like back up.
Speaker 1:No, you can't because, jesus basically tells you to the exact opposite of eye for an eye. So like as a christian, we cannot back up the death penalty, but if the government decides to hang somebody, that's yeah, that's, that's what they do. That's how I would say it I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2:I again to me, I show, because it's not like I'm. There's some people out there that like they don't have kids and they still think it's nasty, but they like, oh well, they're mentally ill, they should at least have a chance to redeem themselves. It's like no, for for me, for example, no, those kids. For me, for example, I have a niece and nephew and I know, you know, I have friends that have had kids and I'm very close with them and I helped with like babysitting and all that other stuff. So to me, I mean, I eventually want to have kids too.
Speaker 2:And if somebody were to like come up to my niece and nephew and like start touching them or anything like that, I don't care who they are, they could be the neighbor across the street, they could be a family member. Your butt is getting beat. You know, sorry, that just enrages me, because I really do. I hate pedophiles, I do. So if you're going to be doing that to kids, like sorry dude, you get whatever's coming to you Death. I don't care, I have no remorse for you. You cannot blame mental illness. You cannot blame somebody set you up. You still did it regardless. At that point. Bye-bye.
Speaker 1:See you later.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I definitely think that should be locked up, yeah, locked up for sure, well, I mean you guys like, yeah, I just again.
Speaker 1:To me it's just disgusting stuff and I have 11 nieces and nephews I know. I know what it's like to be yeah, just to me it's like sorry, dude around kids.
Speaker 2:I would be like I'd have the same.
Speaker 3:No, I thought you were going to say I know what it's like for one of mine. No.
Speaker 2:I just have that same common interest that some of the inmates in prison do Like. If you're a pedophile, guess what? Whatever happens to you happens to you, pal. Sorry, that's just me. Sorry, that's just me.
Speaker 3:So I wish the worst upon them. Yeah, but I will never, I won't bring it on them.
Speaker 2:Like it's still bad. I'm not saying like pedophile, pedophilia is like the all-time, whatever but like obviously regular murder and everything is still bad too, and I feel like there should be definitely punishment for that, Regardless of, again, if you were set up for it or whatever. You should still face your crime. But for me pedophilia is definitely the top one where I just do not give a crap. You cannot redeem yourself from touching kids. You can't, you just can't. And I mean and again, you can probably say the same thing about regular murder too you can't redeem yourself from killing like 30 people at a school.
Speaker 3:I mean in Christianity. You can. I mean potentially. I don't know if you're talking in that sense, though.
Speaker 2:It sounds like I'm not, but I am, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:I would disagree with you though.
Speaker 2:I mean yeah.
Speaker 3:So you think that they can't no matter what the rest of their life they're going to hell. Is that kind of what you're saying?
Speaker 2:For all the criminals that do regular murder, pedophilia, whatever, yeah, Any of them. That to me is a bit of an iffy subject.
Speaker 3:I'm saying they can if they just stay in that same course.
Speaker 2:Obviously yeah, in the christian aspect of things, if they ask for forgiveness, sure and I get that jesus. Like you know, he's like all forgiving and whatnot, but for me personally, as a, as a human being down here on earth, I could care less. You know, a murderer could just have the death penalty like oh, so you mean, you still have something against them? Yeah, oh yeah, you can have that as a personal event.
Speaker 3:I mean, if you want.
Speaker 2:I mean I wouldn't, but in the Christian aspect of things, I understand where it's like yep, you forgive Even people that have apparently not given their whole life to the Lord. They believe in Satan as Lord, or whoever not given their whole life to the Lord they believe in like Satan is Lord, or whoever Like on their deathbed. It says in the Bible, though, that you can, like, ask for forgiveness and accept Christ into your life, even on like. If you have five seconds to live, it's your last breath, and you can still have a chance to get into heaven at that point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Well, that's what happens with a thief on the cross that was next to Jesus.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he was white.
Speaker 2:Just kidding.
Speaker 3:Good Lord.
Speaker 1:I also think that that message gets pushed too much in Christianity, like it's okay, you can wait until you're about to die to accept it, and it's like yeah, because it's like what am I going to do my whole life?
Speaker 2:Just like get a bunch of hookers and cocaine and then just go all out and then, right on my deathbed, be like hugh hefner and be like I accept lord jesus is my christ and savior and then die.
Speaker 1:And then, all of a sudden, there I am yeah, I think like in the bible there's one story of that happening and it's a thief on the cross. It's not like jesus is promoting this message of like right like.
Speaker 3:To live a debaucherous life and then we don't know much about that guy, though I mean the guy in the cross yeah, I mean technically, I think he killed somebody to get there.
Speaker 2:So I think it was whatever he was whatever he was.
Speaker 1:I'm saying jesus throughout the bible is not promoting some message of living a terrible life and then, when you have five seconds to live, to come to him.
Speaker 3:Right, right, because that's time lost.
Speaker 1:That's time lost. It's also. You can't risk that. But I'm saying it seems like there's a lot of people who do promote that message.
Speaker 3:Right, definitely the wrong message.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like God's Not Dead is a perfect example. It's like Kevin Sorbo's character plays this atheist professor the whole movie and then he gets hit by a car at the end and he's laying in the street dying and he's like I accept jesus.
Speaker 2:And it's like why are all of a sudden?
Speaker 1:you're in heaven yeah, why are all these christian movies like promoting this message of like, right before you die, you can still? Make it like I, you can, but it's like even to.
Speaker 2:Nicholas cage did a movie about the rapture like a long time ago and that has the same premise too is like when the rapture hits and everybody's disappearing and like the government's all freaking out and they're like rounding out every christian and whatnot. Like which will obviously happen when the rapture happens is they're just like. They're right there, the, the, the guy's got the gun pointing at like you know whoever, and they're like I accept, accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. They die and then they're you know how in the movies with the rapture, the clothes will just be on the ground and the body's gone. That's literally what it is as soon as the guy gets shot.
Speaker 3:Nah, dude, I'm taking my clothes with me. I don't think you'll have a choice.
Speaker 2:You're going to bring your Gucci pants and your Gucci backpack.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I you're gonna bring your gucci pants and your gucci backpack. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3:I think ethan would be the last person on earth to ever own anything. Gucci, that's true yeah, which is I agree. Yeah, they shouldn't market it that way, because it's like the great life, you can have a great life yeah, with with I don't know well, even juice in your heart, yeah, your whole life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, instead of right and it's like, it's like, it just like yeah, just like they just promote that message a little too much in movies and like plays and yeah which I don't think like at that point I mean, again, we won't know until it actually happens but like I I believe, like with caleb is like I don't think it can just be that easy, because if it was, then everybody would do be doing whatever they want whenever they want.
Speaker 3:I think however they want. I think it is that easy, but at the same time I don't think they have rewards in heaven as much as somebody that gave a lot.
Speaker 1:If that makes sense, maybe yeah but I also don't think it's worth the risk no, because how do you?
Speaker 2:because you could just die you don't always have like five seconds to right there, right Like something right now could even happen. And you know it's like we're not going to know that meteor meteor, meteor, that destroys this the whole castle. Yeah, dude, Actually we're in a fortress, yeah no way, like the same, go through that zombie apocalypse.
Speaker 1:No, it wouldn't. This place is invincible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if we, if this was the Walking Dead, we would be invincible right now, like this place would be just a sanctuary.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we talked about that. Well, I guess we kind of talked about that last podcast.
Speaker 2:Did we we?
Speaker 3:should all come here. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that would be. Oh yeah, we'd get Rick Grimes and Daryl Dixon in here too.
Speaker 1:We'd in here too.
Speaker 2:We'd be unstoppable oh, here we go with the walking. That's the other thing too.
Speaker 3:You know what's funny you have to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 2:No, you're good, hurry up you know, it's funny too is like the government does have like an actual plan. It's like, uh, I forget what the term of it is, but the digits are eight, eight, eight, eight or something, and it's a zombie. Uh, concedions, pan or plan or whatever. I a contingency plan, that's what the word is, and it goes over here's what we're going to do to eradicate all the zombies or whatever. And it's like oh, okay. And the other funny part is too, is there's actually something that's going around with like deer, where it's like a dead deer corpse or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's like some disease. I don't think zombies is a disease, but but that's the thing, though, is that's.
Speaker 2:That's the weird part is like I you know what's funny, too is the only accurate way a zombie apocalypse could happen right now in like anywhere on the world is the same thing that's similar to the last of us, which is like fungus and like bacteria floating through the air, because it's like it would go in the last, was it like goes in your nasal cavities and when you're breathing and stuff, and it infects the lungs and then it infects the brain and then the fungus just takes over, because there's an actual fungus that takes over, like just ants and stuff like that, and it takes control their brain and their muscle movements and stuff, and so they're basically like it's a dead ant corpse walking at that point. But I don't think it'll get to that point of like humans.
Speaker 1:I just don't think a zombie apocalypse would be possible.
Speaker 2:No, but at the same time it'd be cool.
Speaker 1:I don't think it would be as cool as people make it out to be no I think it's romanticized one thing rabies, possible rabies, yeah, but I also don't think that people would become like some super strong undead thing, like like that runs really fast If anything, it would be like I feel like the actual Walking Dead show where they're like slow walking no-transcript, like when somebody dies.
Speaker 2:they obviously have no like oxygen, so your skin just turns pale like white and then like your eyes roll in the back of your head or whatever happens.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 2:So it's like in the walking dead universe, with like rick grimes. It's like they're all looking like they're 80 year old zombies, where their skin is like like you can see their skeleton formed within the jaws and the skin. I wonder if zombies would actually breathe then no, I mean, they're just gonna like live it.
Speaker 3:No, they would have to be like living people, except they're just kind of no, they would have to be living people, except they're just possessed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's all in the brain.
Speaker 3:There'd be no way if they weren't breathing, then they just wouldn't be a living thing.
Speaker 2:That's why they're called the undead yeah, but dead things can't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm saying, maybe on a small scale with the ant. Yeah with dead things can't yeah, like it just. That's what I'm saying, maybe on a small scale with like the ant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with the fungus, yeah.
Speaker 1:With the fungus thing.
Speaker 2:But there would have to be something pretty massive for something to take over a human corpse at that point?
Speaker 3:Did you guys hear me pee? I hope not.
Speaker 2:We got it all captured on 4K. That's good.
Speaker 3:I didn't wash my hands, so he touched the microphone dude, somebody is literally saying that right now what it's like you. You didn't wash your hands somebody on the podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody like that right now, because it's not live well, yeah, yeah I mean
Speaker 1:listening I didn't know where you met yeah, I'm just kidding oh man, what are we at anyways?
Speaker 2:uh two hours and seven minutes wow, new, new marker bro. That's crazy yeah, so what you want to do, big boy, I'm good with ending it. I'm good with ending it too.
Speaker 1:It's two hours. I'm a little out of it at this point, yeah.
Speaker 2:Taiyi, we're just rambling, going to go to bed-bed. Yeah, beddy-bye.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not going to go to beddy-bye, but it's just like.