Unhinged Christian
Welcome to Unhinged Christian Podcast, where we dive deep into the stories and perspectives that challenge conventional religious thought. Join me, Caleb Parker, your host and fellow seeker, as we embark on a journey to explore spirituality, faith, and humanity from a refreshingly open-minded perspective.
In each episode, I sit down with guests from diverse backgrounds and walks of life. From artists to activists, scientists to philosophers, we engage in candid conversations that transcend the boundaries of traditional Christian discourse. Together, we unravel the complexities of belief, doubt, and the human experience in the context of modern society.
Whether you identify as a devout believer, a skeptic, or something in between, Unhinged Christian offers a space for exploration and discovery. No topic is off-limits as we challenge assumptions, confront taboos, and embrace the richness of our shared humanity.
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Unhinged Christian
026: Faith, Uncertainty, and the Future of America. With Stefan Hansen
Imagine navigating a pandemic as an essential worker, wrestling with curfews, and grappling with the ever-changing rules. Caleb and Stefan open up about their personal experiences during COVID-19, from the intense measures at Walgreens to the broader societal impacts. We reflect on how these unprecedented times have reshaped our daily lives and what the future holds for America post-pandemic.
Is America spiraling into moral decline? We tackle this provocative question by examining recent cultural events, from religious mockery at the Olympics to the controversy surrounding Celine Dion’s children’s clothing line. Our conversation shifts to the peaceful nature of Christians compared to other faiths, and we consider the looming threat of a Yellowstone eruption, painting a sobering picture of current societal trends.
Finally, we explore the power of faith and self-improvement in these challenging times. We delve into generational differences, the culture shift towards Christianity, and the role of spiritual motivation in personal growth. From the significance of carrying the Bible to the pressing need for reconnecting with Christ, we underscore the urgency for spiritual awakening amidst global uncertainties. Join us for a heartfelt discussion that blends personal anecdotes with deep reflections on faith and our changing world.
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Speaker 2:First, I have to say thank you to all of the supporters of the show. It comes in handy when you guys donate, so thank you for that, but I'm never going to ask for it as I don't need it. But with that being said, welcome back, stefan. Well, hello there. How?
Speaker 1:are you? I'm there. How are you? I'm great. How are you, Caleb?
Speaker 2:I'm good, stefan, thanks for asking.
Speaker 1:I didn't know people were donating Like are they just donating like five bucks here and there, or something like that?
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Speaker 1:So it's like twitching away with subscribers because you can, yeah, give like premium and like I guess if you're subscribed to like amazon prime, you can give out free subs or something like that, whatever it is, and then you can like give different tiered subs for you. So if you have like tier one, two, three, then whatever you get, like you got more exclusive, uh, content on discord and patreon and all that other crap. So, but I don't have that because I haven't streamed in a minute, but but that that's at least how it is from from the content creators that I watch yeah, so it's.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's the same thing, I don't know yeah but that's kind of nice, though, that people are doing that.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, yeah, stop, I'll be able to, I'll be able to quit my job any day just about 50 years.
Speaker 1:It's been 84 years that old hag on titanic rose she probably did. Right, she's got a name. Oh, she does. Whoa rose. Whoa rose toes bows. We're gonna move on, yeah we are all right, stephan.
Speaker 2:Big question yeah, what do you think is the future holds for america? Oh, with current state. Yeah, with the current state of affairs it's.
Speaker 1:It's getting kind of uh crazy out there, if I'm honest with you, like yeah, from even before covid times and whatnot, it was getting a little crazy, but now it's like ever since covid 2020, everything's just gone wild I feel like that's because more people during covid got adapted to.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, they didn't got adapted to it.
Speaker 1:They became adapted more to being online yeah, well, I mean when the government tells you, like you have a curfew and it's almost like martial law kind of, except like you're not walking outside and about to get shot, like you're, you're under that curfew and mandate of stay inside, don't go out. If you're an essential worker, you're gonna have special paperwork to drive and go do anything yeah, I never had any of that, but I did it.
Speaker 2:I get that there was some of. I don't think anybody was really paying attention to that yeah, I mean were cops really stopping people probably not, they probably.
Speaker 1:They probably weren't because, like, I'm sitting there and I'm driving, just fine and I got my paperwork, though, from farmer's insurance, but there were several times, like when I worked there, that I forgot to bring my paperwork from my place to the office. If I had to go in to get like printed paperwork or whatever to send to corporate and do it, I'm telling you it was just like okay, I don't see any cop pulling somebody over to just find out, because how many people are driving on the road? First of all, you think there's going to be that many cops out and the road pulling everyone over just to verify, they have paperwork.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't have the time Right, they don't have the time or resources at that matter.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like who wants to be a cop nowadays?
Speaker 2:That's true, but that's crazy. I forgot about all that happened during 2020.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then the fact, too, that you know stores nowadays like okay, so when I got COVID back in 2021 or no, it was 2020 because my dad had gotten it first and then I got it in 2021. So it was just one of those crappy times where my dad would be at home and he would have to stay home from work, obviously, and I had to tell my work at when I worked at walgreens during that time hey, my dad has covid, even though I'm not displaying the symptoms or anything like that. I still had to stay home for two weeks and actually that was the funny part about that is, it was the last um time that they did the whole like we're gonna pay you for two weeks to stay the heck away yeah from our store or business and they would close down the store.
Speaker 1:For about what was it? I think it was they closed it down from the moment that somebody announced that they had covet or somebody in their household that had covet, until this biohazard team or something came by. And they biohazard team or something came by and they sanitized every nook and cranny in the store and then you would have to wait two more hours after that to let everything settle and then you could reopen for business. And it's like holy crap, that just for a cold that would have cost a lot of money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like, but Walgreens is pharmaceutical, so I don't if you're in the pharmaceutical. But wow, if you're in the pharmaceutical business, then you pretty much have like any amount of resource of money that you can get, and especially if the government is helping you fund this. Because Walgreens even at that time too, when I worked there, we were one of the first businesses to get the covid vaccine, the very first one. And they were like, yeah, we're, these are for the first line workers right now, and then we're gonna see how we feel and then we're gonna give them out to the public and all this other crap.
Speaker 1:And me and my boss and a few others were like no, we're not trusting that. There's been no tests on it, there's been nothing on it. Like I want to see what happens. So me and my dad, stepmom, my brother, like we're not vaccinated. My sister is, but she was working in a hospital at the time, so you had to. And same thing at walgreens. If you were a pharmacist or anything in that field. You had to take the vaccine or you lose your job. So now.
Speaker 2:I know, though, after seeing the result of people who have gotten it, all the side effects they have. Yeah, I think if that happens again, I'm gonna lose my job. Yeah, I'm just not going to take it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I'm not going to take it either. Like screw that, like the other thing is too, is I feel like it weakens your immune system a bit, because ever since then my dad I mean he's 72 years old now, but back then, even after the vaccine like a cold, he could withstand that and be done with it within like a day or two and it wouldn't be as bad.
Speaker 1:But I've known people that I used to work with at my old job that they got the vaccine and like their immune system, just they would get sick more and they'd be like having headaches more and all this other crap, and it's like okay, like that's a clear evidence sign that something is in there that's weakening an immune system.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because then at that point, conspiracy theory, I guess in a way. But they could be maybe planning something else in regards to another pandemic, because I know they were trying that crap earlier with another variant of COVID, yeah. And so it's like, oh, get the other booster vaccine for well, people aren't buying it anymore.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not as much as they did then, especially with all the stuff that's come out like it was made in a lab. I don't even think that's a conspiracy anymore. I think it's come out that it actually has been made in a lab. The COVID virus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, then, um, and then on top of that, oh, and then on top of that too, is just the other crap where it's like obviously back then in 2020, it was like holy crap, like we have to stay inside and everybody was in a panic. And as soon as they got word of a vaccine that somehow recently got made and like produced that same year within a few months from the like from the actual virus releasing, now everybody's like running to go get it. But now it's like I don't care, like my immune system, I know, is strong. Sure, when I, when I have a cold, I look like I'm dying, but like I can fight it off quicker than most people. There's been people that I know that have had a cold for like a week or two. It's like, good Lord, like come on now, like just take your vitamins or whatever and just be done and over with.
Speaker 2:But no, People underestimate the power that vitamins have, I know, the Flintstone gummies.
Speaker 1:They're amazing, yeah, especially the Barney ones, you know. And then you got Fred Flintstone. And who's the dog? Dino or Dino, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't know who that is. I think it's.
Speaker 1:Dino I think Dino is their pet. It's a dog, but it's like a dinosaur or whatever.
Speaker 2:But anyway, yeah, anyway, we're going to move on. So the current state of affairs with America you think that it's going to go downhill.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking so With the rate that things have gone on, especially like with the recent events of the Olympics, where people are trying God more than they have in the last few years, and by trying you mean mocking, yeah, mocking.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So trying is my version of mocking.
Speaker 2:Right, I understand what you're saying, but there's some people who might be like oh, does he mean like practicing the religion?
Speaker 1:Right or like you know.
Speaker 2:But you're saying like try me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like they're saying, try me, god, and so you know, you get the Olympics where they're mocking the Last Supper. And if you notice too, this was another cool fact I didn't know about so when the power went out in Paris after that, there was a church that still had electricity and it was just right there in the picture, but the media doesn't want to show that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, of course not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the church was the only thing that still had power and everything else, and it's like the whole Olympics just had that power outage and it's like, hmm, kind of shows what you're toying with. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:So, and then even the other part is, too, is with celine dion did you hear about what happened to? Her recently. No, she had olympic athlete. No, celine dion's the girl that's like, my heart will go on and on from titanic. She sings that song.
Speaker 2:Oh, I would have never known.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So she has a new clothing line that she's doing and I don't know how recent, but I know it was recent that she did this. But she's got a clothing line for kids that she's coming out with and the commercial for it shows she's got all these babies lined up at a hospital. They're just newborns. So you've got your blue, your pink, pink, blue pink for like boy girl, boy, girl. You know, oh, let me guess, yeah, so get this. So she had on her clothing line it's got like witchcraft symbols and demonic symbolization on it and you know they play it off, as you know. Oh, it's just a clothing line to make it look like a cool design. But in the commercial she walks into that room with all the babies. She's dressed up in all black and the room gets darker and she like blows as she goes with like this powder crap or whatever, like witchcraft crap and witchcraft crap and all the babies like turn into non-binary, like genderless, like babies and stuff.
Speaker 1:So all the clothing changes to like black and gray and whatever, and then she, yeah, and then it shows off the clothing line of for like, not only babies but, like you know, women and men, and it's got like again all the symbolism and stuff like that, and then not even oh, when was it? I think it was shortly after she just had a stroke and she had to go to the hospital and she was in severe pain.
Speaker 1:So it's like, hmm, again you're saying try me to god at that point yeah and you're using for one witchcraft which goes against god and demonic, which also goes against God. So you're saying come at me, bro, to God, and then that happens. God's not tolerating crap too much longer. I don't think. And that's where you're seeing more of a downfall with things like in the current state of the United States, where again people are mocking God and people are mocking Christianity in general and Christians, and putting us down for believing in God. But if you don't believe in Buddha or whatever, then shame on you and we're going to kill you or whatever they have for their faith. I think there's something in the Muslim thing in the Quran or whatever, like you're an infidel if you don't believe in Allah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So Christians? You know we're infidels at that point, jewish people are infidels, and so it's like okay so, but have you noticed, though, that Christians really don't go out there and kill people in the name of their faith or anything like that, or start riots in the name of their faith? We're more kind of what's the word for it? We're more I wouldn't say, laid back, peaceful, peaceful, yeah, we're more peaceful with it, peaceful. Well, that's what we're called to be right.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, we'll let stuff happen up to a certain degree, I'm sure well, there was people who definitely protested the olympics, but I like when nobody was, at least not a good majority of christians, were writing, I'm sure somewhere, maybe there was something I want to say.
Speaker 1:There was none of that happening, but no, nothing that I know of no, and same here with me, other than I just knew the power went out and then the only thing that was lit up was the church. So I'm like, okay, so. And then there's other things too that are going off in the current state, like I don't know if you heard about yellowstone exploding had a little bit of an explosion.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, there was apparently like it. I don't think it was a geyser, because I mean a geyser would just be like you know, water and steam and everything else that usually has a yellowstone, but I think it's getting closer to erupting, which I mean science already says like it's gonna erupt at some point. It's due for an eruption, and so that could be catastrophic on top of everything else that's been going on.
Speaker 2:Is that the one that they say if it erupts, the whole United States is gone, or whatever?
Speaker 1:Most of it.
Speaker 2:If they even know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if they even know that, I think, yeah, yellowstone, if it explodes, it's going to be like a catastrophe. There's going to be a lot of collateral damage and everything else like that and death. But that could be another thing. Somebody could be testing God over there near Yellowstone and then next thing, you know, the whole place just blows up. Because it is Because you know, back in the Bible days, like you know, when Jesus was being crucified and stuff like he and I don't know if I'm wording this correctly, but like he, he put up with, you know, the soldiers like nailing him to the cross and everything else and everybody like shunning him.
Speaker 1:For you know, you know spreading the word of God and everything like that. And then he died and rose again for our sins. He put up with that for us. But again, where I think near the end times, at this point and with the way that the country's going, he's not tolerating the crap anymore, he's, he's showing signs that he's existing, because I doesn't, I feel like, doesn't it say somewhere like, if, like um, it's been a minute, but if you like have mockery against God, then he's going to make his presence known, like he's not going to just straight up like, just like, smack you but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I don't know if it says it somewhere. Maybe it sounds like something I could, but it's not, definitely not something that I want to mess with.
Speaker 1:Right, like I'm not going to sit there and test God, god, you know, like if I don't get a girlfriend, like next week and be like, oh, curse you. And then just all of a sudden I get leprosy or something like that, just out of nowhere. It's like no, I ain't testing that.
Speaker 1:But yeah, because that's the disease you'd get yeah I'm just saying, though it's like I'm not wanting to test the waters on that crap, and other people are, because they're like, oh well, my belief is gonna be outranking god. And it's like I'm not wanting to test the waters on that crap, and other people are, because they're like, oh well, my belief is going to be outranking God. It's like no, that's not how that works. God is the one and only true God.
Speaker 2:Stephan, I think we need to move to Texas.
Speaker 1:I think we should. Texas is one of those states that's probably the most safe out of every state in the United States right now.
Speaker 2:That and Wyoming, but I think Yellowstone. Where is Yellowstone? Is that in California?
Speaker 1:No, it's not in California. I think it's somewhere near Wyoming-ish.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it is the one by. Are you looking it up?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm looking it up.
Speaker 2:I think it's the one that's by Wyoming in Idaho and where is Yellowstone? Touches somewhere, somewhere around there. I think a small part might touch Montana or something.
Speaker 1:Wyoming National or no? Is it in Wyoming? Oh, it is in Wyoming.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well then, maybe that's not a safe state, but that is a. It's a huge state with barely anybody living in it. That's why I want to go there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean that wouldn't be such a bad idea. I don't think either. Um, I just know too that if stuff starts going south over here in michigan, um, I see, I would think out of all the states in the united states, michigan would be the safest because we're surrounded by water to a degree yeah and we probably have more like resources than most other states.
Speaker 1:I would think, like you know, we have apple trees, we have like lumber, we're like the main supplier for automotive, like cause, we have GM, chevy and Ford all in Michigan. So and then you have a bunch of other resources and I know other states obviously have their. You know stuff too, but it's like Michigan if stuff happens there.
Speaker 1:My dad was telling me that you want to go south. So he's planning like they usually go to Florida because they're old, so all old people go down to Florida. But yeah, he plans on going down to Florida and he says that that would probably be the first safest place you could go, and then Texas. So I told him, if I need to go anywhere, I'm going to try to get to Florida, with avoiding highways and stuff, because you know dang well that if in the current state of the United States, if stuff gets real with everything and again like people testing the waters, waters with God, and then God's like no, okay, we're done with this crap, and he's showing his wrath like he did that's the reference I was referring to is it's Noah with the ark, where people were mocking him and like oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but does that mean he still does that today? No, that's the question.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think he does, no, but like if stuff happened with that, then yeah, I'm going down south and so I said if I can't get to Florida, then I'm going to Texas. So those are one of the two places that I'm going to be going. So if I don't show up in Florida, just assume that I'm in Texas and if anything else happens, then pray, I guess at that point so. But I plan on just taking my bike and whatever else I have in my bug out bag and calling it good.
Speaker 2:So you think you're gonna survive on your motorcycle?
Speaker 1:I mean, I would think a motorcycle is a little bit more uh, what's the word for it?
Speaker 1:agile agile and durable in the. In the aspect of if you need to go somewhere, like because you can weave in and out of traffic, yeah, you can ride the sides you can. You can go off road to a degree, but it's not really welcoming on a motorcycle, but then you also have the aspect of a car. If you have a truck, you're probably better off because you can go off road and do all that other crap. What about rain?
Speaker 1:Rain, oh yeah, with rain on a bike, yeah, you got to be careful as crap because you're on two wheels versus four, where you have some stability. So you know, if I'm in I wouldn't want to drive my accord because I mean, yeah, cord. Because I mean, yeah, it's got four wheels and it's got decent. You know miles to the gallon? Yeah, but in a situation where if I needed to get through or around something, you're very limited because it's way wider than this table, than than what we're, what we're sitting at, and then my motorcycles, like probably maybe half no, not even not even half like probably a decent-sized portion of the table.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but getting down to Texas or Florida would probably take at least a full day. If you did it nonstop, how much time do you think you have if things quote-unquote go down in America?
Speaker 1:Well, I would say okay. Well, just speaking of I can't talk today for a second hold on, let me do this. So my bike has a four gallon tank and I can get 60 miles to the gallon. So that's at least 240 miles before fill up. So it's 22 hours to get to Florida and I would say probably 30 I'm just going to say an estimate because I'm not sure what. Texas I would say about 30 hours or so for texas.
Speaker 1:So and this is, I think, avoiding highways, if I'm correct, is 22 hours yeah, then it's gonna take even longer, right but I mean, if it got to that point, I think the adrenaline would be kicking in to where you ain't gonna stop until you get even your gas tank would have adrenaline and wouldn't have to fill up at all imagine no, there is, there is a yeah but what is the?
Speaker 1:the back roads are going to be safer, you think they're, they're going to be a lot easier to navigate through versus, like, the main interstates and everything like that. So here's the thing In every zombie apocalypse like the Walking Dead, the Last of Us, you know dang well that the highways, interstates, whatever are all going to be packed because people are going to think oh, the highway.
Speaker 2:Maybe they're just trying to show us that in movies so that when we happen we take the back roads. Yeah then they're all taken over the back roads. That'd be screwed up.
Speaker 1:I mean, don't get me wrong, in the Walking Dead they had some stuff where back roads were like blocked off and everything else like that. But it's one of those things again where that's going to be your easiest route to get through.
Speaker 2:Do you think there could be a zombie apocalypse? How likely do you think a zombie apocalypse?
Speaker 1:in today. I can't talk either.
Speaker 2:Apocalypse is to happen in today's world.
Speaker 1:Here's, here's the only thing that I have to back up with it. Okay, there, there's two, actually two things. I don't think it's likely still, but there's evidence that something could happen. Just probably not like you know where you get.
Speaker 2:And for the sake of fun we'll say we'll go with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll go with the walking dead, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like, for the sake of having a fun conversation, we'll go with the likelihood that there could be. How do you think it would happen? Because you said you had two reasons. Yes, how could?
Speaker 1:Okay, there's two reasons how it could. Okay, there's two reasons. So one is a fungus, um, which is kind of like the last of us, but not really where. So, because in the last of us it's a fungus that, like, mutates it go, it's like uh, spores or whatever that crawl into your system and then they like mutate you and crap and then you're a zombie. Yeah, but there is an actual like fungus that it takes over ants' bodies and small insects. So what it does is it gets into their body somehow with their exoskeleton and then it takes over the brain and it kills them and then they take control of the body and then they devour other ants and all this other crap.
Speaker 2:Right, but the ant that has the fungus is dead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the ant that has the fungus is dead. Yeah, the ant that has the fungus is dead. So in, they. They said and this is what science said, at least what I'm reading off is that if this fungus were to evolve and spread to a little bit bigger insects at a time, it obviously would take a while. Yeah, but you know as it, it probably could take over a human brain and, you know, take control. And then we have a zombie apocalypse situation where it's just eating you alive and then you die, and then it's taking control. But our brains are way too complicated versus an ant's brain to, like you know, take control over, right?
Speaker 1:In that aspect of things. So they would say it would take like a buttload of those bacteria to get into our brain to even try to attempt to make us like zombies. I guess the other one I don't know what this one is exactly but deers I don't know if you notice it, but there's like this bacteria where, like, I don't think the deer is fully dead, but it's definitely on its way to being dead, but body parts are like falling off it. It's almost like leprosy in a way, but like its face is drooping, like it had a stroke. Its eyes are like back, like rolled in the back of their head and all this other crap, and they're just walking like normal with boils and all this other crap. It's like the dead deer disease or something like that it's called, and so they're like they don't. I don't know what it is or anything I've done dead deer disease.
Speaker 1:I don't know, that's what I'm calling it okay.
Speaker 2:Is this the second mom disease? Is this the second way you think that it could?
Speaker 1:or is this like the same type of I guess it's both, where it's like the last one but it's like the second, because this is where it's like it's a bigger animal that something is taking over to a degree and so it's really like if something can evolve to get to that point where it's like eating a deer alive and it's still somewhat alive, but dead ish at the same time like what's saying, like that couldn't happen to a human at some point you know what I mean it obviously again with with the bacteria or whatever it is evolving.
Speaker 1:It's going to take a while for that to happen, but with time something could happen. And then there's obviously been cases like the bath salt guy in florida where he just was so coked up on drugs that he, like, was eating a guy's face and they shot him like seven times of the chest and he wouldn't go down because his adrenaline was so high yeah, that's pretty scary.
Speaker 1:Yeah, think about it and I mean I guess that could be a second one too is like there could be a drug out there that like literally kills you, but somehow it still gains control of the body and then, or just takes over your mind like that guy yeah he was still alive.
Speaker 1:But I mean, it's just like like world war z kind of thing, or even I am legend. I am legend. I think it was a vaccine that like killed everybody in the city and will smith you know the guy that smacked chris rock was the only one that survived yeah, but the fact that it was a vaccine is what's right.
Speaker 1:So I don't think covid would ever got no, yeah, I don't. I don't either, I'm just saying but I mean, you never know, like they could just play it off as another disease happening and then they inject people to see and test and like what's going on and here's how it reacts and next thing you know you got a world war z kind of like thing going on or walking dead, where we're gonna have to find rick grimes and, uh, daryl dixon.
Speaker 2:They're gonna have to like save the day, pretty much yeah I'm not telling anybody where I live, just because I don't want to, but I'm definitely staying here because this is a pretty safe place for yeah, anything for that to go down, it's a burger king.
Speaker 1:We're just up in the attic right now. It's pretty cool, the burger king lives here. Yeah, you're having it your way right now, aren't you?
Speaker 2:yeah wow hilarious. I know. Earlier we talked about your bug out bag and you said now you're looking for a bible to put in it. Yes, why is that?
Speaker 1:so my reasoning for putting a bible in my bug out bag is, in the event that something does happen in the current state of the united states, is that then? That way I have a sense of comfort and um confidence, I guess in a way you could say where if I'm alone, then I know that I have christ in me at that point yeah, and the same thing with this dog tag.
Speaker 1:I got where it's. It's stainless steel. It's got that the cross right here, and then it's got the lord's prayer underneath, like the whole thing yeah so that brings a sense of comfort and confidence where if like somebody's, like mocking, you know the hey, you know Christianity is fake, you know that Then it's like no, I have the confidence to be able to stand up for that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Luckily I haven't had that yet, but in the event that that does happen, I can confidently say like, yeah, I'm a believer of Jesus Christ. He's the only one, the Lord and Savior, and the Bible, I think, would help too in the event that if there's an apocalypse of some kind and we need to get out, then that Bible could help somebody else that I meet along the road.
Speaker 2:So it's almost like spreading the message, and it's good to just have the word with you, right, so you can just read it over and over, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I mean it is a king james version, but I mean I'm still learning how to read it, you know, because it's like tis of the how and like yeah, it is, yeah, it's definitely difficult yeah, so when you get it down, it's more fun yeah especially the psalms.
Speaker 2:They're very poetic.
Speaker 1:And that's a good thing to have too when you're just out there, because it'll at least keep you knowledgeable.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know it'll keep your spirits up too, because I feel like, if you know, you get your normal people that don't believe in Christ and they're going to be panicking left and right or just going like bazonkers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're not going to have peace in the chaos.
Speaker 1:Right, and so they're not gonna have peace in the chaos, right, and so they're not gonna know what's going on and they can mess up or even get themselves like killed. But you know, I feel like if you got a bible, or somebody at least comes to you and like preaches the word, at that point it'll keep your spirits up and it'll get you in the right mindset to carry on and move on, and then you could also then have that person. It's like a train, you know you spread the word, they spread the word, they spread the word. The next person, so on, so forth that's usually how it spreads pretty fast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that spreads a lot faster than you think it does. Instead of having, like these big mega churches is doing that one-on-one discipleship type thing, yeah, and, but what if you are the, the real book of eli, the real book of you?
Speaker 1:have you ever seen that movie? Who? Who is it that's in there? Is it? It's not, um, it's denzel washington. That's who? Okay, yeah, denzel washington. It's been years since I've seen the book so you'd obviously look a little different but what if? You not as handsome or buff, yeah, not as handsome as where I was going but what if you were that guy? If I was that scary would that be.
Speaker 2:You had to be the guy that travels to the printing press to get the bible there, the last bible pretty scary.
Speaker 1:But at the same time, though, if I know I'm doing the right thing at that point and doing what's right in the lord's eyes, then I should have nothing to fear at that point yeah so, and that's that's how it goes, even during the end times too.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've seen any like things about the right, the rapture and what it's going to be like for those who get left behind and everything but like they're going to start like pulling christians, almost like they did during the Holocaust with the Nazis and the Jews, where it's going to be like you know, submit your life to Christianity or to Satanism or whatever.
Speaker 2:Or whatever it is, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or die, or get like your skin peeled and everything else, or boiled, you know, and it's like no. And if you choose not to, yeah, you'll be on this earth temporarily in complete agony, but once you pass on, you'll be with the Lord at that point. But again, this is the perfect time right now, I think. Again, what I'm saying is, with the current state of how everything is, I think this is a good time for people to get in tune with christ at that point, because then, at that point, there'll be more people going up in the rapture than people staying here.
Speaker 1:When that happens, yeah and I don't want to see anybody that I know, let alone myself, be down here when you know crap hits the fan at that point yeah, it's pretty scary because in revelations it says like there's going to be days where people want to die but they won't. That's kind of wild to think about yeah, well, and if you notice too, I don't feel like a whole lot of like at least maybe other podcasts like this or something like that like actually talk about the end times as much, because the end times obviously it's scary.
Speaker 2:Really, I think it's like over talked about sometimes.
Speaker 1:Do you.
Speaker 2:Well, back at res. It seems like there was a lot of talk, sometimes like we're living in the end times, but it's like we're technically ever since Jesus left, we've been in the end times, right.
Speaker 1:Like we're technically, ever since jesus left, we've been in the end times, right it's just been kind of dragging on until, like, I feel like again it's it could. It could very well happen. We don't know though, because it doesn't give us a date and time of when and where this is going to all take place, so, but I know we're not supposed to be able to meet the antichrist at that point, so I know there's a world war three before really yeah, there's supposed to be a world war three before and then the rapture is supposed to happen before the antichrist can like, basically because he's going to come off as this guy or whatever that he's gonna be, everybody's gonna love him
Speaker 1:yeah, everybody's gonna love him. He's gonna be like world peace and everything like that, and so, before we even see or know who he is, we're supposed to be gone at that point, and then whoever is there, like here on earth, at that point, will then know that, yep, that's the antichrist, and I should have listened and I should have done this. So that's where it's like right now, I think, is the time to you know, get with christ and be able to, you know, redeem yourself for your sins and try to work on yourself and help others out, and you know, help yourself, everything like that.
Speaker 1:You know, spread the word out yeah, it's kind of because I don't know how kind of freaky thinking about, yeah, I mean it's freaky, but it's.
Speaker 2:It's kind of, because I don't know how kind of freaky thinking about, yeah, I mean it's, it's freaky, but it's, it's inevitably going to happen right, I know and I I hope I'm like pass on before yeah because there's some people who think that there is no rapture and that everybody just lives through the tribulation. Well, there's some like yeah, I don't know who's right. Like are you right or are these other people right?
Speaker 2:right there's like some people who would disagree with you and there's people who are like, yeah, I'm going to be gone when the rapture happens right so I just hope that I'm gone before any of it?
Speaker 1:I would. I would hope so too at this point. I know my dad. He, uh, he, he would sit there and talk with everything that's been going on. He goes, dude. Nothing of back when I was a kid growing up, or even a young adult, was anything compared to today he goes. He feels so bad for our generation and younger generations that are here, because it's just getting worse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you can't live your life. It's like You're restricted on everything Living and breathing you know, yeah, and the woke people are pushing their religion on everybody else. Yeah, Like hey, you better believe this, or you're bigoted or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or you're canceled on Twitter or whatever you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Because that's how it is at the same time, there is somewhat of a culture shift where there is actually a lot of people turning to christianity or talking about god, trying to find the truth, because we've been living in a in a nation of degeneracy for, like the fat past 50, 60 years, ever since the feminist movement happened go figure.
Speaker 2:And now everybody's seeing what this is causing Just this snowball effect of constant woke ism, and so I think there is people turning back and talking about it, so that's a good sign too, but it doesn't mean that it's necessarily going to change anything.
Speaker 1:But we'll see I mean in just the fact of hearing.
Speaker 2:That is like it is to me good news too like a lot of people on the joe rogan podcast are talking about it. Some of them are like weird, yeah, when they talk about god, joel rogan, right, yeah, I know, I'm just saying, but then there's some like he. A couple weeks ago or a week ago he had somebody who was christian on his podcast and that's the first time I've ever seen like somebody who is an actual like. In the description it says christian minister and I was like whoa yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:That's cool though yeah, because people are looking for something, because obviously this trend that we're going is not bringing anything that we want.
Speaker 1:It's not helping anybody. Well, even with music too, not just podcasts and everything else, but music. Music is definitely not the same as how it used to be too. I think it's more promoting.
Speaker 2:You know the devil's side of what you want like money, fame, women, whatever drugs, sex well, rock and roll kind of did that. Yeah, they were a little more tame with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a tame like nikki minaj right, it was more subtle yeah, and now it's more in your face right, and that's the thing too is like I mean, these kids, like my niece and nephew again, love them to death, but the music they listen to, that their school teaches them and like lets them listen to, is like, what the heck are you guys doing? Like it sounds dumb because I'm gonna sound like a boomer here, even though I'm a millennial at this point, but it's like boomer stephan boomer stephan moment here, but like they're talking skibbity, toilet and everything else what, what?
Speaker 1:is that?
Speaker 1:I don't know, that's no either I've heard it before and it just doesn't make it's like what happened to like music at that point you know what I mean like we're listening to skibbity toilet versus like Stephen Curtis Chapman music, like you know, like for side note. My favorite song by him is the great adventure it's called. My dad used to play it when I was a baby and it would calm me down when I was I was like having a fit, but it's a good song that, stephen Kurt. It's literally the journey of, like you know, preaching the word to God and everything like that and his journey through christ and everything like that.
Speaker 1:So it's like holy crap, like that song is good and it's catchy too. I don't. I'm not gonna lie, I am very picky when it comes to christian music because some of it just sounds like, oh god, like it was in a recording booth, like in a closet or something like that and it's like and I get it like, I'm not like saying it's trash, but some of it for me is a little cheesy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's especially like christian rock, like I don't need christians who are trying to be cool right, like I would rather you be natural and do your thing than try to be like the next. Like I don't know morgan wallen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I don't want like a christian motley crew, right, because when you think about it, they're still being worldly. They're trying to appeal to the world by looking like the world and you're supposed to not look like the world right, you're supposed to look like a christian?
Speaker 2:yeah, and so when we're singing these rock and roll songs, first of all it's lame because nobody's gonna, nobody wants to hear I want to submit to, or I want to submit to authority, right, like you're not going to sing that in a rock song no, you're not, because rock music is all about like going against authority yeah, like you know.
Speaker 1:Uh, what is it? We didn't start the fire?
Speaker 2:yeah, because the world was turned right exactly, and it's just like people try to mimic that and make it christian and then it's just you don't need to be cool as a Christian, just be Christian.
Speaker 1:Those people are trying to be the Kidz Bop of everyday music Kidz.
Speaker 2:Bop needs to go man. Are they still going?
Speaker 1:They are in their trash bro, what are?
Speaker 2:they on 87? Something you should look it up. What if it actually is 87? That'd be funny. That'd be funny, that'd be a good guess 87 what kids bop album.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess, while I'm looking this up, do you have any other input on like the music or anything in general with like christianity, where people just need to be themselves with it and not like go above and beyond, like to try to fit in and be woke, I guess is the word for it yeah, I was just gonna say on the christian radio it's the same way.
Speaker 2:It's just like all this pop sounding, sounds like everything else that you hear on every other radio, and I just don't understand why. What dude is it? Is it 87?
Speaker 1:no, it says no internet. It shows that stupid dinosaur that says no internet oh, I don't have wi-fi anymore.
Speaker 2:Oh, you don't no, oh, so you're gonna have to get off because it I was too much kids so now, whenever I have to use wi-fi, I go to, like the cafe or the library I mean that's not bad, oh, oh, 2020.
Speaker 1:Oh, hold on Kidz Bop albums, there we go. How many do they have? Hurry up 74. So close, yeah, I was not terrible 74. Flip it around and make it 47 and then add 40 and then I was right Dude, yeah, no, it's crazy, dude kids, but but they, they obviously change the words to make it.
Speaker 2:They have not yet. Well, yeah, I would hope.
Speaker 1:I wonder if they don't anymore though they know they do it's it's still bad like and they and they ruin some good surprise.
Speaker 2:It's not like thems kid or thems bob at this point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no kidding but yeah, no, like they'll take morgan wallen songs like cowgirls or something and literally make it about like cowgirls, like oh, we're at the rate rodeo having a tall glass of apple juice and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:It's like just shut up like that's weird, and it's at 74, they don't. They don't come out with one every year, do they? It's got to be several. There's no way they've been doing that thing for 74 years.
Speaker 1:They know they haven't, yeah, they probably haven't, but yeah, they probably just come out with a couple every year or something like that well, I just find out they have like an old kids, bob cassette, like a vinyl record like a vinyl record cassette. Oh, that'd be so crazy man, they went real back in time at that point or you see it like on, like a tablet of stone written like caveman dude?
Speaker 1:no, or what are those there was. Who was it? I think thomas edison made it. It was like a phonograph where it's like it's a thing of a cylinder of wax and you you turn the thing to get it started and then you speak into the microphone like what we're doing, but it's like a megaphone looking thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then the wax is scratched and it records, or it's recorded with your voice and then you can play it back.
Speaker 2:It's like yeah, how would they? How would you ever figure that out? Don't know, that's just crazy to me. Same with vinyl records the way they have little bumps and stuff like that's what makes the sound vinyl records are cool though they are cool.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying it's very weird how it works yeah, I, I like it, and then now it just blows my mind mind blown.
Speaker 1:They got like weird stuff for vinyl records now too. Like they got a little toy thing with like a scratch thing at the bottom of it and it's like a car with a speaker in it and then it'll go around, it'll like you turn it on and it spins the vinyl record on the turntable and it plays the music through that car speaker. So it's like, oh, your car's driving down the road and then you got like the little speaker that comes out of it. So it's like so if you don't have like real vinyl record, then it you get that and I think it's like a hundred bucks or something. But it's like it's really cheap too. So I'd rather have a real vinyl record at that point, like a, not like a real old, old one, but like they, they make them, they may sell them at fye yeah, they sell them everywhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can get them at walmart yeah, yeah, you can get them at walmart for, like I think, 150 bucks or something, and it comes with bluetooth so you can play your own music on it.
Speaker 2:I'm like that's not bad because where are you talking about a vinyl player?
Speaker 1:yeah, vinyl, oh, I thought you're talking about the vinyls. I was like dude vinyls are not 150, no, no no, no, like I know vinyls are everywhere and stuff like that, but like a vinyl player yeah yeah, this is what that little car was vinyl player.
Speaker 1:It had a little scratch needle on it and then you, it would drive around the record and play the music and stuff like that. But yeah, no, the vinyl record, uh, actual um player itself is like 150 or more, depending on how fancy you want to get. But I mean, yeah, that's about my thought on it, straight far away from the subject at that point, getting into music and stuff yeah, well, let's stray even farther.
Speaker 2:Do you think the trump assassination was an inside job?
Speaker 1:um, see, that's where I'm kind of torn, where I feel like it's yes and no on that one. Mainly no, though. Um, from the way that, again, as you're piecing everything together, it definitely what like okay, who's gonna take a like a literal bullet like near their head and have it?
Speaker 2:no, I don't.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying he planned it oh, but like the government like had an inside job to like assassinate him or something like that, because they don't like them. Yeah, yeah, I think that at that point, yeah, it's an inside job, because there's no way that kid was working alone.
Speaker 1:No Well, did you hear, though, that in the body cam footage which I have actual video of, because usually every time I see some stuff I save it on my phone but one of the guys that has the body cam, he's sitting there saying they detained somebody up in the water tower. So there was another person involved with the shooting. It's just that we don't know their part and what they played. And then there was also apparently a van with explosives or something like that in it too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that was the kids. That was Thomas Crook's car with explosives, yeah.
Speaker 1:And not to be that guy, but he definitely brought off like school shooter, vibes and yeah well, that's probably why they picked him yeah that's why I think, because he just looked like something, he looked like a societal loser.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't have called him a loser, yeah, but I'm saying, like society would deem him as right, a loserish kid yeah.
Speaker 1:And then I guarantee you that the government at that point probably said something like oh, you know, if you you get this assassination, then you know you'll go down in history as a hero in our eyes and all this other stuff and whatever, because you know luminati and whatever else. But they also said too this is the other part that I find weird is that they um, they said that the roof was too steep to climb up on because of the incline, but it's like okay, but you guys are walking on it, totally fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then you can clearly see. Even from far away you can see somebody literally laying down on that roof. So it's not like you can't see because of how steep everything is. You can't just sit there and say, oh well, have missed them, you got around the corner. No, like you can easily tell that somebody was laying on there. They had a gun and the secret service was warned about it well in advance to where they could have taken the guy down or detained him at that point?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they waited till the first amount of bullets were flying to then do something. So, yeah, I totally agree that like something had to have been planned there.
Speaker 2:Now, do you think it's divine intervention that he missed?
Speaker 1:Divine intervention being like with Christ, like God. Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent.
Speaker 2:I don't know why, but I I think that it was because there's no way, because if he would have moved his head to the left or right even like a millimeter, they say yeah, then he would have died and he would have died yeah yeah so yeah, I, I 100, that was divine intervention, like.
Speaker 1:And then two, it's like he's sitting there, he's sticking up for everything. That's right again like with god too.
Speaker 1:So what more motivation to do the people need, because again there's certain parties that like, they want the destruction, they want the chaos, because then they can assume control and everything else versus you know, giving the freedom back to american people and how it should bet, like how it should be, like it's funny because there's republicans and democrats that are part of the establishment that don't like him yeah, I I mean because my whole thing at first was it depends on the person and what their true intention and true intentions are.
Speaker 1:But then it's also which one do you think you think God would pick in that aspect? Like in the way, okay, like how Trump he's doing a lot of good and he's saying, like God saved me that day. He even said it at the Trump rally.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's like he's not afraid to come out and say God, jesus, and we're going to make America have our Pledge of Allegiance with god. Bless america in it again and all this other stuff you know yeah like he's not afraid to say that, versus like most politicians nowadays just are very cautious, because if you say, jesus, oh, you better watch your back, because you're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head or you're gonna which is crazy that everybody gets so mad about that, even though he's not a real person.
Speaker 2:Right quotation marks. I don't.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying that he's not a real person right they're claiming that and they get so mad at people for mentioning it well, it's also too like as another example of that kind of crap too, where they're kind of mocking like god and everything. You get south park granted that show. This is contradicting to me, like talking about it right now. I think the show's funny. Up to a certain degree it's really bad an adult. But it's like whatever. We're all grown-ups at this point and I'm sure there's probably listeners here that watch south park still regardless they better not be I don't have sinners listening to this not a single one.
Speaker 1:But, um, yeah, like it's funny, because back in the day they were, um, the creators of south park made fun of uh, I think it was muhammad or something and the because you know how south park is, they do parodies of everything yeah simpsons, family guy, whatever yeah and they made um, they were mocking muhammad and the arabs and muslims and everything like that and they were getting death threats and had to have like bodyguards around them almost 24 7 and go into like the witness protection program, whatever.
Speaker 1:And then you get where there's obviously episodes mocking jesus christ and there's one where kyle, he's a jew, he had like I'm not going to go into total detail, but basically christ dies again and re-rises and it's a whole thing about easter and it's like it's it's offensive and it's like, okay, but we're not sending death threats to the creators. At that point you, but it's okay, because it's Jesus, we can mock him. He's not real, is how they put it. But the minute you make fun of any other religion Buddhism, muhammad, whatever, the giant spaghetti monster in the sky, whatever you believe in, at that point you better watch your back. So it's like that's where the difference is between, like, the peacefulness of certain you know faiths and whatever.
Speaker 1:And then you know where, right now, with that point where trump again he can say god bless america proudly, and people are just scared. I think that's probably what it is. People are just scared and so they're like, oh, we'll mock him whatever. We're scared he ain't gonna do nothing, he ain't real. And then is, people are just scared and so they're like, oh, we'll mock him. Whatever, we're scared, he ain't gonna do nothing, he ain't real. And then now people are finding out.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean they will hopefully not before it's too late.
Speaker 1:But yeah, like there, there are people that it's like. You know you obviously need some good saving. I know a few people in my life right now that need a good saving for sure.
Speaker 2:Well, I think everybody does yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean everybody does, but I don't know Jimmy across the street. You know what I mean, Like I know you don't know, you got to introduce yourself to Jimmy. I live on Burton Street. You can get shot every two seconds If you just step outside.
Speaker 2:I work on Burton Street. I drive past Gable or. Gale wood well, no, everybody knows where you are.
Speaker 1:Fine, but it's not like I have a paparazzi outside waiting for me when I get oh my god, it's staff. Yeah, so yeah, that's just the thing, though, is people you know, it's just depending on where you're at, and everything like that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I would rather like I know the people that I know, I would help them. Granted, I would like to help everybody. That's the kind of coming up like I've gotten acquainted with my next door neighbor and stuff like that. Her name is carol, she's, she's sweet, she's an older lady, she's got a dog and everything. But you know, know just her, having someone to talk to it helps. So you never know.
Speaker 1:And again, it's like whoever God puts in your life, so whether it's an ex, whether it's a current girl, or whether it's a guy friend, or whether it's like you know, even your parents that like maybe you had a really bad relationship with and you need to rekindle, like that's another thing too, right there there. So you're there to help everybody out that you can, and the more you spread the word and everything, then I'm sure the more people are obviously going to get saved at that point yeah, well, you have to spread the word, but you also have to live the word yes, that can't just because there's, spread it and do the exact opposite right so like um, I forget the guy's name again.
Speaker 1:It's been a minute since I've just sat down and read my bible, but there was a scripture like if you're struggling with like porn or something like that, you know there's a bible verse where it's because we, we kind of like guys, you know we're more visual and women are more mindful.
Speaker 1:I guess, if you want to put emotional, emotional yeah and there's I know there's a scripture in the bible that talks about there's some guy who he's. He goes up to his balcony and he sees another mistress and she's like bathing and she's completely stephan, how could you forget?
Speaker 2:that's david, is it david? Yeah, that's like one of like the biggest stories in the bible.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I know it, but I'm not good with no, you're on probation yep, I'm on probation, but yeah, it's just like you're struggling with that and you read that verse and then it's like how he got helped through that, you know. So you can kind of relate it to that. So well, he definitely did her. Yeah, he did. He messed up royally yeah but again, it's like you don't want to be that guy that like preaches. It's like what's his name?
Speaker 1:the, the creepy, the creepy preacher kenneth copeland, kenneth copeland yeah, where he's like yes, like the lord is my savior and I bless everybody here. And then he's like I bought a jet from tyler perry with the offerings and god told me that I needed to buy it and everything right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just weird stuff like that. There there was a Kenneth Copeland Bible in the lost and found at our church Nope.
Speaker 1:Not touching that. That would probably burn you alive.
Speaker 2:And I found it because my brother-in-law, whose name is also Caleb, was like hey, your Bible's in the lost and found and then I walked over there and I was like no, it is not.
Speaker 2:And don't you ever say it was, yeah, but creepy. Yeah, he really is. But anyway, yeah, there's a lot of people, even just like day-to-day people, not even necessarily big preachers who walk around and are give off that like judgmental type, which not I mean. As a christian, you should definitely be stern with your beliefs, yeah, but it seems like the ones who are always super judgmental about everybody are always the ones that are like have something going on and they're just behind the scenes that's quite the sin yeah, it is for sure.
Speaker 1:I mean, I struggled with some stuff at you know, at one point in my life, you know, being a young man in my early 20s. You know sex before marriage and everything. Wow, that I know. I'm just coming out there.
Speaker 1:Wow, it's part of my past and everything so I'm not ashamed of it because it's one of those things that you know it happened and it's it's happening everywhere you go. But my whole thing was saying you know you're supposed to save sex before marriage. And, yes, I made that mistake. Granted, it wasn't by will, but it was more. Some other stuff happened that I won't say on the show. That was what she did with me. Yeah, not in that context of things, but like how it initiated essentially. Yeah, not in that context of things, but like how it initiated essentially. But yeah, that's more of a traumatization, I guess, for me at that point. But I've learned from there and that's where I didn't make that same mistake with Alicia, my ex-fiance. She never had a boyfriend or anything like that, never had sex, and she was a strong believer in Christ.
Speaker 1:christ went to church and everything else and she she honestly I would say probably out of all three girlfriends that I've had, she was probably the most um into christ and everything like that yeah and she said that she wanted to save because, yeah, we'd have our moments, like most couples do, where we get close to stuff, and she would be like, no, I want to save because, yeah, we'd have our moments, like most couples do, where we get close to stuff, and she would be like, no, I want to save myself, and we would have talks about it too, like, save myself before you know, for marriage. And then, that way, that night is obviously meant for me and you, and it's the right thing to do, because it says to do so in the bible. And so I, you know, at that point I was like, okay, I'm not going to push to push it. And that temptation kept coming, though, and that's the devil playing mind tricks on you at that point.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because he's testing you, and even God can test you too at that point.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They're both capable and so, yeah, there'd be moments where we would get close to that, but we would both stop ourselves at that point, and there'd be times where she would want to keep going and I would stop her and myself, and even if I had to remove myself out of her place, that's what I would do.
Speaker 2:For some reason it always feels good when you're like the guy and you say no.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I had a couple when I was dating somebody a while back. It would be like there would be a lot of times where I would put a stop to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, somebody a while back. It would be like there'd be a lot of times where I would put a stop to it. Yeah, and that's what I think you're supposed obviously you're supposed well, yeah, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2:It's like it seems like in today's world, even in church, it's always like the guys are leading that and, yeah, they're the ones that struggle with sex the most. So then it's like you kind of find out that that's not exactly true yeah, it's not true all the time it's common ground for both genders yeah, because there were.
Speaker 2:There have been times where I've quite a few times where it's like I have to be the one to put a stop to it. Yep, be like yo, I don't. It's like we don't want this I mean like we do, but we don't because we're not married right, and so I mean we're going with cucumber mint today is that burt's bees.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this podcast has been sponsored by burt's bees. I wish, but yeah, like that. That is one thing that I did struggle with at that point when it came to that and I know that was a test at that point for sure, because at the time at least, before everything went to crap, that was putting my faith and what God wanted me and her to have in our relationship to the test. At that point he would keep pushing it and I'm sure the devil obviously had some plan into it too is to keep pushing it and keep letting things happen, to then eventually give out. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And just yeah, it starts slow yeah like it's not going to be like right away. Oh, we got way too close.
Speaker 1:It's like each time you get a little bit closer and closer until yeah eventually it's like, oh, this is nothing, yeah, but then you lose everything exactly at that point, it doesn't become special anymore, right, it's just a casual friday night or whatever yeah, you're right though it is, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, so that's, you know again, and I even help people with that too is like you know, my sister helped me out with some stuff too with, you know, kelsey and Kylie, not so much because she was younger at that point, not Kylie, but my sister was younger at that point. So she didn't really she wasn't in relationships right away yet. I forget how old she was. But yeah, it's just, you get people that will even help you, that God will put in your life that will like, hey, this probably isn't a good idea, or hey, you, you know, do it, but you're gonna learn the hard way at that point yeah, so and I think that's it.
Speaker 1:I think everybody needs that honestly, regardless of how wealthy or how poor or whatever how smart you are, yep, how smart you are, how dumb you are. Whatever how much arizona tea you drink or how much chapstick you put on your lips, you know sure, yeah, I could always use more right chapstick but I mean even, even too, with even motivation to work out, or something like that too. I mean, heck, I used to be a big boy at 285 have you been working out consistently?
Speaker 1:just mainly at work with like lifting work. I'm trying to push myself to get the heavier parts, because sometimes I'm not gonna lie I'll be lazy last week it was brake pads, this week I'm lifting rotors literally yeah, and I would purposely do the rotors because you know they can weigh in variants of pounds like 20, 30 pounds or even 40 or 50 yeah depending on what kind of rotors you got.
Speaker 1:And so I usually in the mornings, you know, you scan it, you get done and then you're just like I don't want to do that because I'm already going to be sweating and I'm going to ache and I'm not going to want to do anything else. But it's like that also helps you build that muscle. So when you're picking it up, you're working your upper body, you're stretching this out, you're tightening these up.
Speaker 2:And as long as you're going down correctly and using your legs, you're working those legs too.
Speaker 1:And I noticed too ever since I've lost like the over 40 pounds, is that my lower back is not in as much pain as it used to be, because, yeah, obviously, when your lower back is like a really good strong point, but if you mess that up, like good luck, so, cause I've had that too, where I've been so big, like again, two, 85 was the max that I ever have gotten in my life and I never want to exceed that number ever again or get close to that number ever again. Right now I'm currently 244. So, yeah, decent amount of weight loss there and, uh, yeah, I can, I can lift up stuff without my back being in pain. I used to be able to not get out of bed easily in the morning and my feet, too, have felt a lot. Uh, they still hurt, but I can get out of bed easier without limping as much.
Speaker 1:So I know, with that dedication and honestly, I feel like, even when I listen to the podcast, like of other episodes you previously have done, like just listening to that and having the word of God in my ear, as I'm like lifting and moving and climbing up ladders and crap and reaching over my shoulders for stuff, that helps, yeah, with motivation, and so god can do a lot in your life too with motivation and everything like that when it comes to weight loss, whether it's like even your special gift of like art, music, whatever you know, as long as you let god into your life and you let him kind of guide you at that point, you're going to succeed. Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2:Next step is you should just start going on the treadmill after work a couple days. What I need to do is start Well. If you combine that with the job, you'd probably lose more.
Speaker 1:I need to do sit-ups or something, because I still got basically a FUPA at this point yes, but sit-ups I'm going to get rid of, don't burn fat. No at this point. Yes, but setups I'm gonna get rid of. Don't burn fat. No, I need it to tighten or get rid of the gut a little bit. I still got a gut, obviously, but it's not as bad as what it used to be yeah yeah, it's not like somebody else.
Speaker 1:I know who's like 420 pounds right now, but yeah, and I mean that with all like not mockery, mockery, but like I know him personally, so I mean we always make fun. But he is losing weight, though you can see it in his face.
Speaker 1:So and well good yeah, so he, he's starting to get better about taking care of himself more. And I'm like, dude, you need to because you have kids and a fiance and I don't want to be carrying that casket because it's going to be heavy and I'm going to break, be carrying that casket because it's going to be heavy and I'm going to break my, that's what you care about no, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I care for his personal well-being and stuff, yeah, and it seems like his depression has gone um down a bit, so which helps out too, because depression can be in uh, what's the word for it? Like, I guess, an additive to your weight gain, you know, because if you're depressed, like some people eat when they're depressed, some people don't eat yeah. Yeah, and the people that don't eat, they lose weight, and some people that do, they gain weight, and this guy gains weight.
Speaker 2:Well, depression is a hard one because it's really hard to get rid of, but also easy, if that makes sense. Yeah, because a lot of times it's brought on from trauma, that or not getting outside.
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 2:I remember I used to have depression and then I started exercising more, going outside, eating healthier, and now I don't really ever struggle with it at all anymore I still have depression to a degree.
Speaker 1:It's not as bad as what it used to be. I'll tell you that much back in the day and I'll just. I'll just say it as is right now. Back in the day I had thoughts of suicide and it was really bad, um, and there came a couple moments where I had attempted it and it was again really bad. But I know, throughout the years, Stefan, I never knew about this. Yeah, it was it was back when Kylie, my first girlfriend with her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm trying to think of how old I was during that time.
Speaker 1:I was 23 when I was dating her, so I would have been 22.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think we were really like hanging out during that phase of life, whatever reason.
Speaker 1:No, I think part of it was just, I think, because me and her were dating, so I was more focused on her at that point and trying to get to know her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was back in the days where, when you get a girlfriend, not you but anybody, just anybody. Yeah, anybody gets a girlfriend. It's like you spend all your time with them, yep, and now, when you get older, you realize that's not really the way to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you want to have that equality and you want to have that time where you can have time to yourself, she can have time to herself, time with your friends, time with friends, family, whichever.
Speaker 1:So I mean, heck, when I dated Alicia and even Kelsey, I made it very well aware to them that Sundays are my family day. So if we don't get to see each other on Sunday, because she would do the same thing, alicia would, kelsey, I don't, she had a bad thing with her parents, so she was just bored, she went to church and then she went home and just sat around and did nothing. But alicia, she would go see her parents and I would go see mine, or there'd be days where I go see my folks for a couple hours and then I go see her folks for a couple hours, and then it would switch to where. Then she would see her folks for a couple hours, then she'd come see mine, we all hang out, have a good time. You know what I mean, yeah, and then we just go back to work on monday like everything was normal. So you know you, you need to have that common ground too in that. So because, yeah, you're going to get sick and tired of each other.
Speaker 1:If you're around each other 24, 7, like that right ridiculous because if your intentions are obviously marrying, you're already going to be with them every day of the week. So, yeah, you get that work period where, yeah, work may be stressful but it's a little bit of a break. And then you come, you get that work period where, yeah, work may be stressful but it's a little bit of a break. And then you come home you get like a nice home-cooked meal or just watching a movie or something like that, like hot butter and popcorn, you know, like something. But yeah, it's just little moments like that. But I mean again, god will put somebody in your life too, whether male, female, you know whichever friend relationship, even just an acquaintanceship, or just a customer at a store. You know some rando that comes up to you in the peanut butter section and goes, hey man, how's it going? And he just talks to you on whatever, and there's just something different about him and it's like you just talk and everything's all good. You know what's?
Speaker 2:that noise what talk and everything's all good. You know what's that noise?
Speaker 1:what noise? Maybe I'm just hearing something.
Speaker 2:I don't hear anything yeah, I thought the camera shut off, but it's still going no, it's still going.
Speaker 1:There's a light. I don't know what I'm hearing, then maybe I'm just going gone crazy, maybe I'm just going crazy, gone senile. But but yeah, I guess is there anything else that you want to talk or ask or anything.
Speaker 2:Not really.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:We're at about an hour and ten minutes yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't have any other input. I think we pretty much talked about the current state of America, went off topic about kids, bopping and everything else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we talked about it all. Another episode of just talking, yeah, which is fine. I mean, yeah, you're like the fun guest I'm the fun guest, fun guest so anyway, everybody, thanks for listening. Yes, thank you, and don't forget to have a blessed week. Bye.