Unhinged Christian
Welcome to Unhinged Christian Podcast, where we dive deep into the stories and perspectives that challenge conventional religious thought. Join me, Caleb Parker, your host and fellow seeker, as we embark on a journey to explore spirituality, faith, and humanity from a refreshingly open-minded perspective.
In each episode, I sit down with guests from diverse backgrounds and walks of life. From artists to activists, scientists to philosophers, we engage in candid conversations that transcend the boundaries of traditional Christian discourse. Together, we unravel the complexities of belief, doubt, and the human experience in the context of modern society.
Whether you identify as a devout believer, a skeptic, or something in between, Unhinged Christian offers a space for exploration and discovery. No topic is off-limits as we challenge assumptions, confront taboos, and embrace the richness of our shared humanity.
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Unhinged Christian
021: Nostalgia, Mystery, and Music: A Dive Into Childhood Memories, Urban Legends, and Unforgettable Tunes. With Stefan Hansen
Our chat travels through the impact of fast food on our eating habits, touching on the legacy of the "Supersize Me" documentary creator. Finally, we indulge in a nostalgic conversation about VeggieTales, with a special mention of Junior Asparagus.
Ever had plans thwarted by unexpected mishaps? We recount our excitement to perform Skillet's "Monster" at a church talent show, only to be sidelined by a sprained arm. Our love for Skillet’s music remains undiminished, and we share fond memories of listening to Randy Travis on cassette tapes. As we continue our trip down memory lane, we delve into beloved childhood cartoons and Christian radio dramas like "Adventures in Odyssey," reflecting on how these stories shaped our early years and rekindled old friendships from Bible camp.
Curious about cryptids and urban legends? We explore the fascinating lore of Bigfoot, Mothman, and other mythical creatures, debating their scientific plausibility and pop culture appeal. Our discussion touches on paranormal encounters in horror video games and the eerie allure of "The Blair Witch Project." Amidst the spooky talk, we reflect on the bizarre phenomena of the toilet paper craze during COVID-19 and the emotional toll of the pandemic on our loved ones. We wrap up with lighter anecdotes about spoiled milk, beloved pets, and playful debates on hypothetical endeavors like raising the Titanic. Tune in for a mix of humor, nostalgia, and thought-provoking conversations that promise to entertain and enlighten.
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Crack a cold one with the boys.
Speaker 2:I'm going to start off like that A little Arizona iced tea, some Arnold Palmer tea. Anyway, you can hear good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can hear good.
Speaker 2:Great Stefan, how are you?
Speaker 1:I'm good, that's good, you seem so excited I am, I had chicken and sirloin steak at Texas Roadhouse.
Speaker 2:Our favorite place to go. I did not like the catfish, not a big fan.
Speaker 1:No, no, wasn't seasoned properly.
Speaker 2:I think it was. I just don't think catfish itself is Very appetizing. Correct Fair enough. It's not like salmon or oh salmon. So good. Salmon is good and I think catfish doesn't.
Speaker 1:Doesn't have a lot of flavor, no, not a lot of flavor, no, but shrimp, though, on the other hand, that's like the king of all seafood really. Yeah, if you put me, if you literally put a platter of shrimp like cooked shrimp and you got the little, uh, the red stuff in there, that you what is it called? Like marinara sauce?
Speaker 2:no, it's not your favorite dish in the whole plant. You don't even know what it's called. It's cocktail, cocktail sauce that's what it is.
Speaker 1:And no, you get a little bit of that or um, I don't know what else, like just some melted butter, just oh my god, it's so good, you're gonna eat the whole thing. Oh, there's an entire plate I'm I'd be sick, but yeah, heck, yeah I would. I'm the exact opposite.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna be donating for the rest of my life. I obviously I did not like shrimp either. You don't like shrimp. Part of the reason is is because wrong with you? Did you ever go to that house that ethan and I lived at? Not my brother ethan. No, I know.
Speaker 1:Podcast yeah, because we, we did, uh, we did hide and seek in the dark and scared the crap out of each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, we walked around with a candle. Yeah, that was terrifying. It was.
Speaker 1:It was just an empty house for the most part, especially downstairs in the basement.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was big and you had nothing but candlelight Literally. And the person who was it had to walk around with the candle as it lit. Scary, great idea though it was.
Speaker 1:Is that idea, though it was so the same night that we played liar's dice and everybody was dressed in costume yeah, because I was captain fat sparrow and and yeah, I was because you had that up in your room and I was like I'm just gonna whip this on real quick. I took pictures like I was mewing and stuff like that, like that was fun.
Speaker 2:It was a fun night if we could only recreate it, if only anyway. When we lived at that house there was one time where ethan put shrimp in the air fryer that's not a good idea. I don't know but it was after I put shrimp in the air fryer, so we both did it on separate occasions, and both times it made the house stink like shrimp. And so I think ever since then I have just had a distaste for shrimp. That's fair, that's not my thing.
Speaker 1:It's probably like the same thing when you go work at a fast food joint. If you work at McDonald's, you're sitting there smelling of fries and burgers and fat and everything like that. Dude, I wouldn't be able to eat McDonald's ever again if I worked there, not even on lunch break. I'd have to remove myself from the restaurant and even like deep clean my clothes to get the stench out and the grease yeah, the grease too.
Speaker 2:The amount of grease that comes on. I mean I get greasy clothes from working at Jets.
Speaker 1:Speaking of the McDonald's thing too, do you hear the guy that? Uh did the supersize me he? He died recently. I don't know how, but he was 53 years old you don't know how he died no, I I don't remember.
Speaker 1:They said how he died but I don't remember how he died exactly. But he I know he's 53 years old and they made the announcement it was this week and I was like holy crap man. I remember watching that documentary and like, um I it wasn't fit. Maybe it was phys ed or maybe I think it was health class, that's what it was, because that's where, like we were learning about anatomy and all that other crap too, like on top of like you got to make sure like you have a fit body and stuff. And I mean I'm I'm pear-shaped right now, but I mean slowly getting there to somewhat I don't know what I know.
Speaker 2:I know what fruit I would be associated with your pear shirt, your pear-shaped. What shape would I be as a fruit? You sigh?
Speaker 1:he sighs dramatically. I would say not a fruit but a vegetable, and you would be like junior asparagus because you're like skinny and then you have like the little hair poof up top.
Speaker 2:Okay, and then like I've never seen you wear that's the only thing. Does junior wear hats?
Speaker 1:he wears yeah, he wears a hat to cut because he I think it's just the fact he doesn't like the you know, like how asparagus has like that weird because alfred was, uh, he, he was larry boy's butler and veggie tails and he had, like the weird thing, the I don't know what you call them, like leaf things or whatever that asparagus has yeah and junior was like, I think, embarrassed of his because it was like poofy, like an afro and there was only I think one or two episodes of veggie tales where his hat got removed and it was like a split second clip of like him just poofed out, uh, like, oh I think I
Speaker 2:remember that dude, I haven't.
Speaker 1:It's been so long since I've watched veggie tales they're apparently oh, no, wait, no, they're not going anymore. I don't think. I think they went into a different route where it was more like disney, princess animated, where they had like pupils, like with different colored eyes, and they looked more detailed, like you could see wrinkles and bob the uh tomatoes like yeah, and it wasn't, uh, not that it was ever 3d, but it was also it's. It was way more polished. Uh, back then it was like 90s animation, where voice crack of course.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, voice crack 31 years old and still going through puberty. But yeah, no, they, they had it where the computer animation back then was so limited that it was. I mean, it was still good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you could tell especially today. I want to go back and wash it.
Speaker 1:Wash it. Yeah, talk about my voice crack. You talk about washing.
Speaker 3:VeggieTales.
Speaker 2:I got bad grandma.
Speaker 1:I want to go back and watch it and see how the animation holds up yeah, because I you know, I'm not gonna lie it probably does hold up a little bit, but not as well as I don't know if it would.
Speaker 2:No, no, definitely today, absolutely doesn't talk about, absolutely not if we watch it today, this would be.
Speaker 1:It would be horrible yeah, it would look like a second grader did it yeah, or like a like yeah second grader, or like a college student who's like just trying to find something to like pass his class because he hates what he did. It's a job yeah so he's just coming out with something here's a cucumber and here's a tomato, and they're dancing and singing about jesus and all that. So that's what I mean. That's what they do. They go through the bible verses like david and goliath, well not anymore, not anymore.
Speaker 1:But they had david and goliath, and they had this one where junior was in bed and he was sleeping and he was scared because of the dark. And then that's when, like, god is bigger than I remember that, one bigger than Godzilla, or the monsters on.
Speaker 3:TV.
Speaker 1:Oh God is bigger than the boogeyman and he's watching out for you and me.
Speaker 3:Like that was the song.
Speaker 2:Dude, that was perfect.
Speaker 3:It was perfect.
Speaker 2:Sounds like you just watched it.
Speaker 1:Dude, it's implanted in my brain. Same thing with oh where is my hairbrush. Oh, where is my hairbrush?
Speaker 2:That was a Silly Songs with Larry. Oh, my gosh, yeah hair. That was a silly songs with larry oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was. They had a whole like other segment of like silly songs with larry. They had it. Um, there was the hairbrush. My favorite one was cheeseburger it was the squash guy that had no eyes and he just had he was french or something yeah because you're his cheeseburger. And then it like just went on like all the ingredients being in love with one was he even a character? Yeah, he was a character.
Speaker 2:He was a secondary character and then he became a primary character because he right, but didn't he just sing that song, or was he actually in the show?
Speaker 1:no, he was in the show. He. He was, I think, one of the salesmen in the Madame Blueberry episode where it was about greed or something.
Speaker 2:They all had hidden meanings, but yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the greed, I mean because yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, they have to because it's Christian yeah.
Speaker 1:Because Junior wanted a toy train. And then she's like oh my God, he just wants that one thing and he can't afford it. And then, like she stuffs her whole house and then it explodes, and then like I don't know, I don't know what happens at the end she probably gets turned into blueberry juice for all I care, like oh my gosh. But yeah, no, veggietales was something else, man, I loved that.
Speaker 2:And Larry was something else, man, I, I love that. And larry boy, oh my god, I remember the episode, the larry boy, I think it was what's the one where he has to dig underground, that one legit, used to scare me, the rumor weed yes, yeah, I'm a rumor weed yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:They had the um. There was um, larry. The first one was like about the fib, the giant fib, and then there was room.
Speaker 2:Yes, the fib one was okay, but the rumor we kind of scared me because there's a part where you'd go down in the tunnel yeah, and it was dark and spooky and then the weed popped out or something. Yeah and it started off really small and he just kept getting bigger, like a rumor does.
Speaker 1:And then they had this was the cool part too is I don't know if this is 100% true, but at the church that we used to go to and I think your parents probably still go to it is they had a screening of the first VeggieTales cartoon and it was Larry Boy and the Angry Eyebrows and it was like don't hold in your anger. If you do, then you'll lose all your friends. And then it's like this guy named oh, I forget, he's like an onion or something like that, and he has a sidekick called Lampy. Yes, it's like a literal lamp with like a smiley face on it, and it's like oh, dude, and I mean I like the animation for that, though I think they should have stuck with the cartoon series for at least larry boy, because larry boy was like my thing. I was a huge fan, I had the larry mobile, I had the larry boy stuffed animal, I had the like action.
Speaker 1:He shot plunders out of his ears, he was sick dude yeah he's a plunger hero larry boy, larry boy it was like what was? I think they said something stupid.
Speaker 3:Like I'm a bean green machine larry boy I am that hero like?
Speaker 1:that was his catch phrase. Is I am that hero like? How lame man like batman's parents died and you're sitting here being a cucumber with plungers on your head.
Speaker 2:Come on, man dude, I thought it was cool I thought it was no.
Speaker 3:No, you didn't you just.
Speaker 2:You clearly were making fun of him nah, dude I.
Speaker 1:I just like the design of larry boy. It was cool because it was like purple, yellow and then black, and then the him being a cucumber green. It looked cool. That's the thing too is even cartoons back then were way more creative.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even if the animation wasn't as great.
Speaker 1:They still could come up with their own stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah and the stories were good Because we remember Rumor Weed Fib Angry.
Speaker 1:Eyebrows Angry. Eyebrows Angry.
Speaker 2:Eyebrows when you bring that one up. I remember. I wouldn't have remembered that on my own, but when you talk about it I do. And then, madam Blueberry, I remember. I remember all of those episodes. Do you remember the Jonah one? It was like a movie.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, with the caterpillar thing. Yeah, because Alfred played as Jonah and he was like sitting on a rubber duck and then it got eaten by a whale and then it went through that whole Bible scripture of like Jonah and the whale. And then they had one where it was a cowboy one and it was I forget the Bible verse, but it was like so there was this father and he had like three sons or something like that, or four sons.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and it was cowboy themed because he got the special cowboy vest that was all rainbow and stuff. And then they pretended to like kill him and they pushed him down like a mine shaft or whatever and he's like where's my son? He's been missing or like he's passed away.
Speaker 1:Oh, was it supposed to be Joseph, that's what it was the one with the dreams and yeah yeah, the one with the dreams, yeah yeah, okay yeah, and they had that going on. And then, yeah, I remember, because I liked the cowboy hat that they had on Larry, because they did a cartoon Like here's how you draw Larry with a cowboy hat on, and then I would practice drawing it, but I was like I was a kid and I was stubborn, I was like it's not coming out perfect. I remember also the Shadr, meshach and abednego one.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was the chocolate rabbit factory, wasn't it? Oh, yes, it was yeah, and they're like you're gonna go in the oven.
Speaker 3:I was like yo oh, I love the bunny.
Speaker 1:I didn't eat my soup or my bread, just the bunny that was the big giant, like cucumber with the mole on his nose. He was like the old dude. That was like oh yeah, I know what you're talking about, Because he burned him in the furnace at the end, and then God and his angels saved him or no, it was the angels that saved them from burning in the furnace, like melting the chocolate bunnies, or whatever. Yeah. So it was a take on that oh my God, dude, dude, that's nostalgia.
Speaker 2:Right, there really is. And who? There was a goliath one too, wasn't there?
Speaker 1:yeah, it was just david and goliath, but right, it was like um it junior was david david, and then I forget if I think it was just a random character, that was just like goliath, goliath yeah, and the whole slingshot they also had.
Speaker 1:Um, there was one episode where it was larry was a king and he was obsessed with rubber ducks, like was the thing. And then Junior was this poor little kid and he had, like Larry was this greedy king. That was like taking everybody's rubber ducks and if you didn't then he'd like exile you or something like that, because you know kid-friendly, exile you or something like that, because you know kid friendly. And then he found out junior had like a really perfect rubber duck for larry to like take a bath in and he goes I want that duck. And the whole episode was just him trying to steal the duck and he took it from junior but then realized, oh man, you know, maybe I shouldn't take things that don't belong to me.
Speaker 2:And then he gives like the duck back to junior and I I think there's something else in there, but I remember that episode it's funny how every episode is like those 90s family sitcoms where the episode like they do something bad, right, and then at the end maybe I shouldn't do this every time they have some epiphany for whatever reason. Oh, of course. Oh, we're at the 15 minute mark time to change the time to change the subject.
Speaker 1:No, I'm saying, I'm talking about talking about in those episodes. Oh, yeah but we can't remember chad chat, oh, from community yeah, because, yup, because we went to that freaking Bible camp and, yeah, we did some crazy stuff. Yeah, chad, oh my God, dude, you know, what was funny is I saw him at Target.
Speaker 2:Really yeah, did he recognize you?
Speaker 1:He did. He immediately recognized me. He didn't recognize Annika though, because Annika my sister, she took me to, she wanted to hang out. So she's like well, let's go to Target and see what's up, let's see if they have a sale on something. And then we walked out and all of a sudden, Chad, parked next to my, I had my old 1991 Honda Accord.
Speaker 2:Oh, so this was a while ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a while ago. Yeah, it was a while ago, yeah. And he pops out, he goes, stefan, and like really loud, and I was like oh my god, like who is this guy? How does he know me? I looked up and down again, I was like chad and he goes yeah, man, how you doing?
Speaker 1:you remember me from new community and I was new community, yeah, new community and I was like, yeah, man, and how you been, he goes good, how you been talked and caught up. But yeah, he's, he seems to be doing pretty good. Last I know, like I mean, I think I'm friends with him on facebook and stuff like that now, but yeah, chad was an interesting character. And then me and john and him were going to be in the church's talent show and we were sitting there and we were going to play Skillets Monster.
Speaker 2:Oh goodness, and we were practicing.
Speaker 1:I was practicing on drums, my brother could play guitar, so he was going to do that, and Chad could sing, so it was going to be us three doing that. And then, all of a sudden, I think, I sprained my arm so I couldn't do anything. So we had to cancel our um sign up for the talent show, which we were all upset about because, dude, that was fun I'm sure the world thanks you for not covering monster by skillet, though that would.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true, and especially with chad singing nails on a chalkboard, literally it was bad because he was too. He was like yeah, man, we're just out here to have fun. He's like I, I feel like a monster, like it's like that guy from tiktok, that like um, I think it's by disturbed where he goes like that, yeah, but he goes like that. It's just like that, but 10 times worse do you still listen to skillet?
Speaker 1:yeah, I listen to skillet really. Yeah, I. Um, what's invincible is a really good song you make me feel invincible what album is that off? Um, I think it's, it's not monster no, is it the one after that?
Speaker 2:I think it's the one after that, because after the monster's the one after that, because after the Monster album, which I think was either called Awake or it was called Awake and Alive.
Speaker 1:It was Awake. It was Awake and Alive. That was the Monster album.
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm awake, I'm alive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Skillet's great.
Speaker 2:But I have to say that album was their downfall, I think. Why do you think? Because of Monster, first of all. Well, as a kid I thought that song was really cool.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Especially when they did the special effect, which was like I feel like a monster.
Speaker 1:See, that wasn't even special effects. That's just me.
Speaker 3:Maybe it was real, then Maybe it was.
Speaker 2:The world may never know but with maybe it was, the world may never know but that album it was like half good, half bad and then after that I feel like they they like picked up a bit, but no, they kind of went downhill from there. But to be fair, I also haven't really listened to their newer stuff so I can't really say they got some like the newer stuff's good.
Speaker 1:I don't remember any of the songs right now because it's like I have a playlist that I listen to like at work and it's got a mix of Skillet and their old stuff and their new stuff and then it's got a mix of Alan Jackson and Zac Brown Band, whatever.
Speaker 2:Who Skillet has Zac Brown on his album.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, Like, I have a playlist that's random musicians and stuff like that. So like, yeah, skillet, like their stuff is like cool, like I like invincible, like awake and alive. There's um, and then monster. Of course, there's like another one that I listened to. That's like really good. Um, god, I can't think of the name of the song, but it's, it's super good. Um, it's very catchy too by skillet yeah, it's by skillet.
Speaker 1:I just can't think of it right now for the life of me. So I mean, but yeah, no, I like their music. Same thing with Randy Travis too. Like I know he had a stroke like back in 2013, but then he just recently came back in 2024, with like a Came back. Yeah, came back with like an AI song.
Speaker 1:For those listening to Stadia, we did one of these air quotes when we said Randy Travis coming back because yeah, it's all AI generated Like it's his voice, but it's not his voice. At the same time, if that makes sense, it's not as bassy as Randy Travis used to be. Yeah, and he used to be like, especially like.
Speaker 3:I'm going to have a little talk with Jesus when I get home tonight. I'm going to tell him all about my troubles and I know he'll make them right. I'm going to ask him to forgive me for the things that I've done wrong. I'm going to have a little talk with Jesus when I get home tonight.
Speaker 1:You keep that up, we're going to get copyrighted on YouTube because I can't tell the difference, so familiar the resemblance is iconic, ease, yeah, but yeah, randy travis, though, I mean mom used to um, I think she still does. I think she listens more to elvis since, um, our grandma died, but like a while ago. But but yeah, randy Travis was really fun to listen to as kids, not so much because she would play it this is how old school we were. We had a cassette player in our car, not even a CD player.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was AM FM radio and a cassette player. That was top dollar back in the day and, yeah, that's what we would listen to. And so we listened to that. And oh my, you know what another cartoon Christian thing is, what Adventures in Odyssey.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, my favorite character was Eugene, the nerd that played the ukulele. Yeah, dude, that stuff. They had Christmas movies and like a bunch. They had a TV show and then they had the cassette tapes that were like storytelling, like they had like flip over to part B for the ending of the story. And then Mr Whitaker was the old man yeah, Dylan was the kid I forget the dog's name, but yeah. And then there was his dad who looked like Dexter's dad from Dexter's Laboratory, and then I don't know if he had a mom. I think he probably had a mom, but I remember the dad like he had a really long nose and he would always talk about Mr Whitaker.
Speaker 1:And then there was a song with Eugene that he sang during a Christmas episode called Season. What was it? It was Season Instolutions or something like that, whatever it was, and it was the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But it was so like as a kid you're hearing that it's like, wow, this is actually kind of good. But yeah, adventures in Odyssey, dude, if you listen to the Bible Broadcasting Network on 102.9. Do they actually play Adventures?
Speaker 2:of Odyssey?
Speaker 1:Yes, Are they still going?
Speaker 2:I don't think they're new.
Speaker 1:Oh, but they're just like repeats of older.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm not gonna lie, I'm 30 and sometimes when I'm just driving around because I don't have a hookup for my phone right now, yeah, I listen to it and it's kind of nice. It's soothing like dude, yeah soothing is the right word.
Speaker 1:Went down memory lane. Man Shoot Like yeah, dude, adventure is an odyssey, like that's. The thing too is like there are some like really good, like Christian, like musicians and cartoons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just got to find them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you just got to find them. And it's like I mean granted, there are people that try way too hard with it like there's some weird cartoon I found recently on tiktok and I forget the name of it, but it puts like all these like beliefs in one cartoon. Like it's got judaism, it's got christian, uh, like it literally.
Speaker 1:The jewish superhero's name is jujitsu oh goodness and then the christian guy's name is chris cross, and then I forget, like, the muslim guy's name, and then there's, like I forget the girl's name. But like they combine into like this unit. It's supposed to symbolize like, yeah, you know, no matter what religion you are, whatever you're, you know we can all get along. And then they like fight bad guys according to, like you know, oh, it's, it's satan. You know he's stealing cotton candy again from the ferris wheel. Kid, you know stuff like that.
Speaker 2:And it's like it's like I have no words. Actually I do have words. That's kind of scary to think about. Yeah, it is because because in the end times it talks about how there's going to be the one.
Speaker 1:The one world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one world government, one world religion, and it sounds like to me that's what they're trying to do.
Speaker 1:They're trying to get people ready for it before it actually happens, so it's not as big of a deal.
Speaker 2:Right, it's what is it called when you desensitized to it and indoctrinated you into it, so you accept it easily.
Speaker 1:It's just like a little. There's not a word more easy.
Speaker 2:You accept it?
Speaker 1:just like the alien thing at this point. Like they announced like oh my, there's aliens. And then they like oh well, here's some mummified aliens. We've been hiding for like over 50 years and it ended up being cake like and it was discovered in Mexico.
Speaker 2:You didn't yeah, I know about that, but I don't think that was the like a prank.
Speaker 3:I feel like it was government related like was it?
Speaker 1:I feel like it because it was like so what's your take on aliens?
Speaker 2:that aren't cake. You think they're real no, they're.
Speaker 1:If anything, they're demons disguised. To some like to make us like, believe, like there's other beings, and because that that's the thing too is like demons will cam, like they could camouflage, just like me and you like to, not, stephan, are you? Um, no, they'll. They'll use like people, like even in your life. You know what I mean, just in general. Like they'll not necessarily take over, but they'll put those influences in people's heads that, like, have been in your life. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like, as an example, exes, Like there's been at least two exes of mine that, have you know there's been thoughts whispering in my ear and then they say certain words that like I know for a fact fact, like they're not just trying to get me back because they genuinely like me, that's the devil and his demons trying to get me to get lured back into another toxic relationship, or the same toxic relationship might be 10 times more worse. So that's the thing with that is just, they can disguise themselves in any shape or form. Aliens don't exist. I don't believe that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because they would have made themselves known way way longer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if they were as powerful as we think they would be, they wouldn't take time to take us over, they'd just come and.
Speaker 1:Right, if they got UFOs, they can move faster than a speeding bullet, yeah, and then that doesn't change when they go underwater.
Speaker 2:So obviously it's breaking physics, so it has to be from the spiritual realm. But my question is is how are they showing themselves in the physical realm? If demons are spiritual? That's where I'm, because I don't, okay, I don't think they're aliens, right, and I and I do agree that they're demons, or I should say I want to believe that they're doing you want to believe they're demons but at the same time it's like well, it's a spirit, it's a spiritual realm.
Speaker 2:So why are they showing themselves in the physical and why is it always something flying around in the sky? To? How come people don't see demons, like running across my apartment or something?
Speaker 1:well, that's, that's a good question. That'd be scary.
Speaker 2:First of all, never come here again. I don't even want to sleep tonight after saying that, because that just kind of freaks me out.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's just like that whole time. You remember it, like when we I think I was staying the night at your, your parents house when you were living there and I was like, just imagine like you walk downstairs one day, you're like my home from work or something like that, and then you hear from upstairs like all right, sweetie, I'm just getting you lunch ready, or something like that, or whatever. And then, like your closet door, you open it and then you just hear your mom. You see her and you're like mom, what are you doing in there? He goes, that's not me.
Speaker 2:Upstairs, like oh my gosh, that's so creepy. Yeah, I remember you talking about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're like well thanks for that thought coming it's like you were so genuinely upset, but it was so great luckily I don't have any.
Speaker 2:There's just two rooms in here, so I don't freak out too much, yeah, but then well, okay, so let's go down this route. What do you think of bigfoot and cryptids and all those?
Speaker 1:so here's my take on that. Yeah, so we already know that bigfoot is the scariest creature known to man. Next to bigfoot, little shout out. So yeah, I, we all know, like you know, they always are like, that's one thing, as I bigfoot is probably because there's like the jersey devil, there's the chupacabra, there's bigfoot, there's um, the, the skunk ape, which is basically Bigfoot which? Is basically the same thing with the abominable snowman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like a polar bear versus a grizzly bear type difference, right, so?
Speaker 1:essentially just different versions of Bigfoot. And then there's like Michigan dog man. Yeah, the Michigan dog man with the werewolf, the moth man. There's a bunch of them, I think. If anything, I think bigfoot would probably as weird as it sounds. I think bigfoot would probably be the most realistic one to exist because of the fact it's mostly like humanoid ish yeah and, yeah, I'd be essentially a bigger human, which they do have recordings of like and photos of like people that are really huge, just not like covered in fur, like a bear right but then you get like things like the jersey devil, where it's like it's a girl gave birth to her 13th child and that's how the whole friday the 13th thing became a conspiracy theory and
Speaker 1:so she gives birth to like a normal child at first, and then it grows like the. The bottom half grows like hooves and goat legs, and then the upper portion is like a human body, and then you get like the head of a horse and a goat mixed and you get bat wings. And then it just eats everybody in the house and flies away Like no, come on, come on If anything. That would be a demon in its true form.
Speaker 1:If anything yeah, and then, like you got like the Mothman, same thing, demon in its own form, same thing with the Chupacabra, though I think that could be. And again I think next to Bigfoot, that could be its own like kind of actual think that could be. And again I think what next to bigfoot, that could be its own like kind of actual thing that could exist out there with the like, with the background of, maybe from area 51 or some experiment, that somebody, because you know like how they have labs where they test products on animals and stuff like that- yes they could have been doing stuff with a, for example, which I think the Chupacabra is like a dog or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And maybe they're testing some weird products for like here's how to de-age a human and here's how to make them live forever. But then there's like a weird random side effect that they don't know of and then it breaks out. And then there you go, you got an experiment gone wrong like that. I think those two are probably the most believable out of all the cryptids out there, because then there's the rake too, which is just basically a white alien with like red pupils, so it's like an albino alien and it just hides in barns and stuff and abandoned buildings and then it just it lures you in by like that was the other one, the windigo. The windigo is another one, but that one's more like if you eat a human being, then you're going to turn to this like weird vampire goat thing and well, uh, windigo, isn't a, isn't a goat, or?
Speaker 2:not it's like this frail looking like human yeah, and they get that way. It's weird because the lore is that, if you, I'm going to get this wrong, but from what I know, cannibalism yeah, it's cannibalism, and it comes from your heart becoming so hardened and cold from greed that you just turn into this Wendigo. Yeah, it's not the deer with the antlers thing that's always portrayed in hollywood. I don't know where that comes from, but it's that that's from native american lore.
Speaker 1:So native americans, I think, depicted the wendigo as being like. It would be obviously like cannibalism, but it's like somebody who's gone insane. So they wear the skull of a deer kind of thing to symbolize like I'm a wendigo, I want to eat you, stuff like that like. But I will say one game that scared the absolute crap out of me was a game called until dawn, and for those of you that are gamers watching this channel, you'll pretty much know what I mean by that. But yeah, until dawn is like it's a horror game that looks like an actual.
Speaker 1:It could be a movie or a tv series yeah but it's um, it's a whole video game genre where they take like different stories of like folklore and urban legends, cryptids, whatever, and they make it into like a horror game, jump scares, everything like that, and until dawn is like so these two sisters, they, they die and then the brothers there, they go out to the cabin where the sisters died. They find out that there's a thing following them and it's a wendigo and the gate. At the end of the game. Your goal is to save all the teenagers there, every one of them. But, excuse me, I had to burp there for a second.
Speaker 1:But if you fail, then the rescue helicopter comes and there's like, oh, there's no survivors, so, and that's why. On the radio then it's like roll credits. But it says like, all right, it looks like we can send a chopper there. And then it's like, how long do we have to wait until it goes? Until dawn, oh, so yeah. And then you find out the one sister somehow survived a drop into a mine shaft, ate her sister to survive because she couldn't escape the mine shaft, she couldn't see where she was going, whatever, blah, blah. And then she, she herself, becomes a windigo and you find out that it's her from a tattoo, because the one girl she she mentioned she got her first tattoo and it was like on her arm or something like that, and it was of a butterfly, because the whole game premises is around like the butterfly effect, where it's like you know, if you do something in the future, it can affect the past or whatever, or if you do something in the past, it will affect the future. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's like based off that, so it's like, oh my God, there's a butterfly.
Speaker 3:Hannah.
Speaker 1:And then so it's like, oh, my god, there's a butterfly, hannah. And then yeah, and then your whole goal is to like just avoid or kill these wendigo.
Speaker 2:So it's, it's scary, mega spooky, oh it's, it's spooky, it's very spooky.
Speaker 1:It scared the crap out of me and I played it at night, like when I was on, when I was streaming like they, I dude, I can you see yourself in the camera yeah, I can see myself. What if you were looking at yourself and I got?
Speaker 2:scared of myself no, you saw yourself in the camera and you saw something standing behind you oh I, I there's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's vulgar language that I would say absolutely all right get off my podcast no, it's. It was a scary game, though, and then plus I had it. Where my chat I?
Speaker 1:had scary noises that they could either pay for or I'd have some out for free they could jump scare me with. So if there was a moment they thought that was like really like scary coming up, they could and it would blast in my headphones and it would scare the crap. People loved it though, yeah, so I think I'm probably gonna pay play more like horror games and stuff like that, because people love scaring people.
Speaker 1:I'll just say that much well, yeah, it's always fun yeah, but that that's the whole premise of the windigo essentially. I, just as soon as you met, as soon as I mentioned windigo, I was like, oh man, until dawn was such a good game, yeah. Then they have like the devil inside me, which is like a jigsaw, like saw movie kind of parody. They have one called little hope, which is based off the salem witch trials, and then they have man of madon, which is a urban legend about a boat, uh, from vietnam, that apparently had every personnel uh die on it or something from some weird disease, but it's really people going insane, something like that, and it's a ghost ship. And then they have like this weird one that's like vampires, so and the vampire one's dumb, it's like it's really people going insane, something like that, and it's a ghost ship. And then they have like this weird one that's like vampires, so and the vampire one's dumb, it's like it's based on.
Speaker 1:Vampires are never really scary no, but the ones that they do in this game are pretty scary, like it's, it's good.
Speaker 1:It's a. It's a decent storyline. It takes place in like afghanistan, I think. Like it's soldiers and stuff like that. Like where you're? You know you're trying to fight through this like ancient egyptian, like temple or something, or roman gladiator kind of thing. And then that's how you discover like, oh man, it's like vampires and stuff. And then at the end of the game you see you have a choice to destroy the nest and there's like a ton of these things.
Speaker 1:Like you literally walk into the entrance of the cave and there's like a ton of vampires, of vampires like nesting and like about to hatch, and so and then you see like a truck, like from world war ii or whatever, that's just perched right there, like caught in the webbing, and so you see that it's like oh flammable, and so you can shoot your gun at it and then it'll explode and burn everything or whatever.
Speaker 2:I thought vampires had to be killed with a wooden stake.
Speaker 1:It's like a wooden stake and then there's like fire I think can burn them. Like I think you can like light source or something. Like it has to be extreme heat, so because vampires can't go out the sun, right, and they learned that from skyrim. Oh, that's right. Oh yeah, skyrim good lord, it's been a long time since I played that. But yeah, vampires, yeah, it's extreme heat. I learned that a long time ago. Like same thing, skyrim, but then also boulders, gate three, because there's a vampire uh called oh what's his name? Astarion. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he's a vampire, but I think it's a curse or something. No, I think he's either a full vampire or a half vampire, but he has some kind of curse or something put upon him where he can withstand the sun up to a certain point, but if it's like full concentrated- light from the sun.
Speaker 2:There's always one who has some special power yep, absolutely but do you anyway? Back to the, the original. Wow, that was. That was quite the tangent. That was the video game tangent. But do you think that cryptids? Is there a possibility that those could be demons? Oh yeah, 100 like somebody sees bigfoot.
Speaker 1:They might be seeing a demon yeah, like it's just like it's another one of those things where maybe somebody is like, because I believe it, like how, in how I look at it is like how my dad taught me about Christianity is, the more closer you get towards God, the harder the devil is going to make it for you to like follow that path of righteousness. Oh, yes, and so, yeah, that could be where you're getting close to God and then the demons are trying to like lure you or, you know, try to I can't think of the word but basically they'll play mind tricks with you like thinking stuff's real and then you go crazy and then you lose all your friends because you're crazy, because you think Bigfoot's right in Walmart, or something like that.
Speaker 2:Or you become those guys who what show was it called Finding Bigfoot?
Speaker 1:Yeah, where they're just like every two seconds, like I heard a branch break.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, that was a parent, that was a parody.
Speaker 3:youtube channel oh my gosh, you know what I'm talking about holy crap, it's a bigfoot.
Speaker 1:He's fishing with a fishing net, hey, but we gotta look those up.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, yeah, re- watch those.
Speaker 2:But there was a show, actual show on tv, called finding bigfoot and I had dude. I can't even tell you how many seasons it had it outlawed and and okay, the crazy thing is is these guys are out there and I don't know if they actually believe that bigfoot's out there, who knows?
Speaker 1:there's probably some people, or they're getting free money too.
Speaker 2:That's the other part that, but the amount of people that are watching it, because people have to watch it for you to have that many seasons, unless you're that rich that you can just put so much money into having unlimited seasons. But those guys were not rich?
Speaker 1:no, they weren't, they were getting money from somewhere. But that's the thing is like screw working retail. Let's just go find bigfoot and get free money. Let's do it.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's how it is. There's some people I'm just like dude, how, how do you make money for stupid crap like this? You know what I mean. Like I'm I'm sitting here busting my butt every day like lifting auto parts, whatever, and you're sitting here with a flashlight. You're like I heard a branch break. Oh my god, it's a big foot yeah, you have to remember these people.
Speaker 2:It's like, like what you said, the closer you get to god, yeah, the harder the devil is gonna make it, and I think that comes with our lives.
Speaker 1:Yeah, working too, because yeah, because you could have like the most perfect job or whatever. But if you're, you know, maybe god gave it to you, but then he's gonna put challenges in front of you too. But then the devil is gonna like god will put challenges in your life, obviously for to better you. Yes, the devil will put challenges because he's just that much of a guy. He's. He's just that much of a guy. He's that much of, uh, he's just that much of I can't say the word, but he's a trickster. I guess is the.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the more friendlier version of it.
Speaker 2:Right. So I'm just saying those people who are just out there with a flashlight, I mean who knows what their beliefs are, yeah, but your job is honest, it ain't much. But it's honest, it, but it's honest, but it's honest work, yeah, exactly that's what it is, and that's that's just the reality, as funny as that little saying is yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2:It is true, it's true do you remember that one time, when we were no, oh, neither do I we were driving in my jeep and we were gonna go off-roading. Oh yeah, dark out and we were in the woods in the mud and you're like dude, I wonder if there's gonna be a it wasn't people jumping out or something it wasn't a bigfoot, it was another, because this was back when you were watching.
Speaker 2:What was it called? Oh, the blair witch. No, it was. You were watching secret tapes, a show called oh yeah, it was um, oh, what was?
Speaker 1:it was lost tapes. Lost tape, yeah, because they had like a bunch of like cryptids, like they had the vampire, the bigfoot, they had the oklahoma octopus, a bunch of stuff that looked real like. They had the jersey.
Speaker 1:The jersey devil one was the dumbest one out of all you ever go back to those and say these are clearly fake the only one that I believed at the time was the most real was the vampire one, because that one looked the most believable out of all the footage was that the one where it was living under the house, or something?
Speaker 1:yeah, it was living under the house and like they were like, oh man, we're hearing scratching noises. And they set up cctv cameras and like the kids room and they were like, oh yeah, don't worry, son, there's nothing in there. Like they open up the closet, nothing's hiding in there. But yet when they leave, the night vision captures like this big black figure like coming at the kid, trying to pull him out and eat him. And then they like, yeah, we're just gonna see if maybe it's a raccoon or something.
Speaker 1:And then the pest control guy he's like I'm gonna go downstairs and do my thing. And then he comes across like all these trophies and weird random collectibles and then he sees this big, like human head thing. But then it's like sleeping and then all of a sudden it's like eyes open and then it just attacks him and kills him. And then then the the husband and wife and kid all like hear the noises and screams and they go running downstairs to see if everything's okay. Oh my god, it was so creepy. It's giving me chills right now. And because it was downstairs in a basement and yeah, my dad's old house that he had had this almost the same layout basement yeah almost the same layout and I was like, nope, I'm not going down there.
Speaker 1:And john's room was down there too, which was the best part, because mine was upstairs, and yeah, they. And then the dad goes down there to see what's wrong. And then all of a sudden this thing is crawling up the wall, it breaks through the door, which was the dumbest part, because that's when you could see it was like a rubber glove flop through the door and then they eventually, like, go outside or no, they stab it with like, um, like parts of the door that came off that were, you know perfectly, like knife sized or whatever, and it kills them both. And then they're like, oh, my god, thank god we're safe. And then it's like but when they turned in the tapes to the police, they thought it was all a hoax. Do you believe? Find out on lost tapes when we uncover the truth, and it's like all this crap.
Speaker 1:But yeah, the vampire one, and there was one bigfoot one that actually looked legitimate, like that one. I was like, okay, that's believable, because it's like hunters out in the woods and it's at night, because they're like hunting deer or something stupid. They they capture on their camera like, oh, we found a deer or something like that, and then all of a sudden it's like this and it's like this big foot comes after them. They have to climb up on their uh like the hunter's poach or whatever.
Speaker 1:Blind, yeah, deer blind yeah, the deer blind, and then it's like it's circling them, so they're, they're waiting till like daytime. But then they're like we can't wait here, we have to do something, and it's just. And then it pretends like it leaves and then one guy goes down to be like I'll look for help, I'll come back in here. Ah, like the William Helms scream or whatever it's called. Of course, you just hear that.
Speaker 2:It's like why not?
Speaker 1:just shoot him. Because Bigfoot's impenetrable by bullets. Like whatever. He's bulletproof. He's bulletproof Nothing to lose Fire away, fire away.
Speaker 2:Fire away Getting all the songs in Absolutely. But anyway, I think that one time we were out in my Jeep and you said something was out here and I was like, okay, we're going back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're like okay, enough of that, we're turning around.
Speaker 2:I was so scared.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to remember what that was, though.
Speaker 2:Me too, because it wasn't bigfoot and it wasn't vampire. It was some other creature that you had on your mind from lost tapes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then there was then we were watching too like this was that when my dad was like rooming with somebody, but it was like the blair witch project we all watched and we thought it was real because I thought that that movie was real footage when I first saw it, because you guys were like, yeah, it's real. Yeah, and it was like dad said too yeah, he said it was real and it looked legitimate like well, yeah, because it's like the.
Speaker 2:What are those movies called? Like vlogs no, it's, it's like something I I don't know what that's, a certain genre of oh, like documentary kind of thing yeah, documentary, but it's like they're filming it themselves. Yeah, like the camera person is running around. It's like the camera person is actually there. It's not like a it's not a movie being filmed. It's like, oh, this is, I'm actually here filming what's going on you know what's funny about that movie?
Speaker 1:I just found out recently what so? The three actors that played as the teenagers that went out in the woods, or the college students that went out in the woods looking for the Blair Witch, they were hired for the acting position, obviously, and they were not even given a script. Not even given a script, they were just given info about the blair witch and then the townsfolk of that area for the blair witch, um, which I forget what the name of the town is, but they would interview brander, yeah, they would. They would, uh, interview random people from that town to blair and they knew the whole story of the blair witch but they weren't aware. Like it was like a movie they were being filmed on, it was like just a camcorder kind of thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then the rest of the movie after that was just pure, like just kind of say whatever you want. And then I think part of it too was they were being messed with out in the woods like for real, not by random people but by, like, the film crew or whoever was there doing crap. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so, like the kids, like they were doing crap like that on the hands with the tent, and then they obviously had the house. They knew the house was out there, an abandoned house. So I guess it was a real abandoned house or something like that. I think. I don't know a hundred percent on that. But yeah, everything else was improv. That's what it was, that's the word I'm thinking of. So all the rest of the lines, they weren't in a script or anything like that. It was just pure improv after that.
Speaker 1:I was like dang, that's some good improv for like a two-hour movie for real, and then it just got really dumb.
Speaker 2:After they made Blair Witch 2 and 3, there's a second and third one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the second and third one are not even as remotely close to as good compared to the first one, and it's it's not even like camcorder, like where it looks real.
Speaker 1:It's all like Hollywood oh yeah, so it's like they got real actors now, like Alecwin, and he didn't shoot a guy, you know, they got like whoever. And then it's. It's so bad, dude. The second one is probably the worst one out of the three, but yeah, it's. And then they made a video game called the blair witch too, so that one, that one's actually kind of scary. That one got me too. When I was playing it I was like, oh my god, like because they had jump scares in there too, and the blair witch, though, or the, the creature, I should say not the blair witch itself, but the creatures that they had in the game were like tree creature things, and they would like do that weird fast, twitchy thing and stand still and just look at you, and then, as soon as you turn around, they like crawl on all fours and come at you really fast. I was like, oh my god, it scared me. I whoa whoa I loved it.
Speaker 1:I love games like that, though, like as terrifying as it is and like heart-wrenching as it is, like see my heart rate go up, like it is downright fun to play horror games like that. But yeah, so back to that whole beginning long story short. I believe that yeah, they're most of them are probably demonic I forgot that.
Speaker 1:That's what yeah, it was just mostly demonic and it's, it's nothing of a reality, of a cryptid, because at this point again, we would have found more proof on bigfoot, we would have found a skeleton at some point yeah, same thing with the chupacabra same thing with the jersey, devil, mothman, etc.
Speaker 1:Etc werewolves, all that stuff, yeah so the only thing that they say is remotely close to evidence for anything is probably a vampire, because people back then in the day, when vampires were like a rumor and people thought they were legitimate people would be. I think it was tradition when you were buried, your skull was smashed with a brick or something, so that way you know, you would not be able to come back. They had a bell um at the top of your grave to where, if you were still alive or a vampire, it would. It would ring. The symbol is like oh, we actually didn't kill this guy after he was pronounced dead, it was he's alive, he's a vampire, so and then they would bury him and some of them would stab him with a wooden stake and all this other crap too.
Speaker 1:It was, it was messed up so if they were still alive, they're gonna re-dig them back, they're gonna dig them back up and then no, they just, they just leave them in there, but I know I would have been so mad because there's no way they're a vampire no, but it it was also not solely for that purpose, it was another purpose for in the event, like if they, um, if they like, noted that like the patient died, or something like that, and they really didn't die. It was just like Ring the bell Ring the bell if you're really alive and we pronounced you dead, but you were in a coma or sleeping, I don't know. Like they just saw you sleeping on the couch, oh, you did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because back then you wouldn't really be able to tell Right, yeah, not like today.
Speaker 1:The difference, between a coma. I mean, granted, today it's a little bit easier to tell if you're actually dead or not. But there have been some cases, still today, with all the modern day technology that we have, that people that have been in a coma been pronounced dead and they remember seeing the surgery and the autopsy done on them and all this other crap, and they can't say or do anything and they've been alive this whole time. So it's it's more rare than what it is like back then, but yeah yeah, that that's just.
Speaker 1:It's weird, but yeah, that that's. The whole thing is like the vampire one is probably like the most realistic that we've ever gotten close to in modern day, like from our past or whatever.
Speaker 2:So but yeah, gotta take out those people eating or drinking blood People eating, drinking blood. But back to a subject that was even before that with the idea of Randy Travis. Yes, do you think that AI is going to take over music?
Speaker 1:I think it could take over music. But more scarier is, I think it'll take over a lot more than just music. Wow, well, yeah, and it's not like a lot more than just music. And wow, well yeah, and it's. It's not like a boomer thought or whatever, but no yeah it's.
Speaker 1:It's more of like if you seen what people can do with ai now it's ridiculous. Like people have been able to make like now they're doing it, where you can make an ai generated like there's one dude on tiktok that I followed like he made an entire. It looks like something off the news, like you're seeing this live of a car burning in the corner and a building collapsing and like people running away like in terror and it looks. It's not even like video game. Ish, looking like it looks real.
Speaker 2:It looks like yeah, like real. If he didn't say it was ai, would you think it was real yeah a hundred percent like.
Speaker 1:I would have thought it was something from ukraine or something like that, where, like, a building was on fire or people were like running in terror because the tank was about to roll them over. Like that. If he wouldn't have said anything, yeah, I would have thought that's a hundred percent like real, and so I feel like scary and I'm not.
Speaker 1:I am and I'm not one of those conspiracy theorists about the government and all this other crap. I do believe some conspiracies like the government was behind, and then there's other ones that I'm like now they probably haven't done anything like that yeah but you never know. But I feel like at the route that america is going right now again not trying to be political or anything like that, politics are allowed on this podcast, so, but like lawrence brings it up all the time, oh, fair enough, then, okay so then I am going to be somewhat political, but in the state of like, how the government likes to hide things and then likes to manipulate people, like covid, for example you know,
Speaker 2:like yeah covid.
Speaker 1:Covid was a real thing, but it wasn't as drastic as they were making it out to be. Where it's like oh, you have to wear a mask and if you breathe in any air you're automatically infected. Like we ain't in the walking dead.
Speaker 2:Like, come on now yeah, and it wasn't the black plague either yeah, it wasn't anything like that.
Speaker 1:They, you know they tried to make like they were like. Another form of covet is coming out and it's going to be deadlier than the last one, it's like sure well, people don't believe it, right, don't believe the government and the media anymore.
Speaker 1:After dealing with cover the first time, yeah, so that that's the thing too, is like. But then again, here you are with this ai generated. You know, technology we have now where people could um, I don't know, for example, like with trump right now is they can make an ai generated thing where it looks like he like gun hoed everybody in the white house. Something stupid like that you know what I mean, yeah and you're not going to say that it's ai generated.
Speaker 1:You're going to be like, wow, this is live, here's a survivor. They get an actor pay him up to make him look all bloody like he just been through a massacre and crap and people will do anything for money.
Speaker 2:Well, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1:It's kind of scary it's the same thing with covet too. Like they, they made it seem like all the hospitals were filled up too, but then there were people that were actually going to the hospitals that said, like you know, sharon was going to the hospital because her and her father had covid and they were completely booked. They, the hospital, had to turn them away.
Speaker 1:They go to like the hospital completely empty like no one's in the waiting room, there's like rooms that are completely empty and the nurses are just sitting there going on their normal day. So it's like, okay, so they already tried to they already. I'll say they pretty much successfully manipulated us into believing that COVID was the world's biggest catastrophe in a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 1:What's stopping them from doing that with AI? Just saying Because you can manipulate voices, you could take clips from this podcast. Saying because you can manipulate voices, you could take clips from this podcast and I could. I could be like you know, threatening you know, like johnny depp right now. You know I mean, but you can threaten johnny depp with my voice and put it on the news like oh you know, michigan, uh, michigan auto parts man stephan hansen was uh on his way to work and then he saw johnny depp and threatened to beat the crap out of him. We have the actual audio proof.
Speaker 2:Then they ai generate my voice and johnny depp, and then you know, so on and so forth yeah, they were already doing that on youtube with joe rogan, dr phil, saying if you haven't received your 6400 in government. It was like do you remember that scam? It was a few months ago.
Speaker 1:It was like there's a bunch of them right now, with Mr Beast too, where he's like yep, I invested in Bitcoin and now I'm giving everybody $1 million as long as you follow and give me your PayPal information in the TikTok below, and it's like you could tell it's clearly fake. And it's like you could tell it's clearly fake. But it's like they use clips that like they generate the mouth movement to where it sounds and looks like Mr Beast is actually saying it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean with this one they were. It must have been someone who didn't know what they were doing, because it didn't. You could tell that it wasn't lined up with Dr Phil's mouth, but it sounded just like him. So if you're not paying attention, you're just like whatever right, then you would think that he is part of this scam and it's kind of crazy and I guarantee you that's probably what they're doing with some of the stuff too.
Speaker 1:Like you know, politics wise oh, for sure but trump. And then you know sleepy joe, you know him just sitting there and it was sorry, lefties, if you're watching, but that, that's the whole thing is. I'm, I'm a, I'm just gonna come out with it. I'm a trump supporter get joe out of here. I don't need his chocolate ice cream and his teleprompter reading crap. But that's the thing is. Like you know, they could ai. You know Biden saying something smart for once and people would believe it.
Speaker 2:Well, they already what did they do? Drugged him up for his State of the Union, so he actually was able to talk really well.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:That dude probably slept for a month after that.
Speaker 1:He probably did. He's probably been sleeping the whole time. He's just, you know, again sleepy Joe. But yeah, no, no, like that's probably what they're doing and I think they're getting. They could be getting ready for something big at some point. They're just waiting to release it because, again, ai is still somewhat new. It probably has been around for a while. Just nobody knew how to use it and they were experimenting with it, and then now you have it where you can pretty much do whatever you want with it. So now they're just like because, again, here you go with Randy Travis. He comes back from 2013 to 2024, and it sounds like he's singing on the microphone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you wouldn't have told me that that was AI, I would have thought it was Randy Travis. Exactly 100%, it sounded just like him.
Speaker 1:Yep, and here we are right now, and anybody could do that. They could make me say something, make you say something, make Trump say something, make the mayor of Whoville say something, not Whoville.
Speaker 1:Not Whoville Horton, he's a who. And yeah, that's what they can, can do. And that's a scary thought. Right there they, they could say something devastating, like have even an iconic like hero to the public eye, say like no, I'm, I'm serious, like this is real, like you can't be doing this, like you have to give up your guns and whatever something stupid. And then people do it and then we're defenseless.
Speaker 1:And second amendment and with seeing the way that people freak out already, people will believe anything yeah, they bought toilet paper and and it's like okay, but the thing was with covid, it had nothing to do with you pooping your pants.
Speaker 2:Why was the? Why did people go for toilet paper?
Speaker 1:I still don't understand that I think it was because they were in lockdown and it was like we didn't know how long we were going to be in lockdown for.
Speaker 1:So they were like loading up on toilet paper because you're not going to go outside and wipe your butt with a leaf I will what if all you had was poison, ivy, a really itchy butt, but that's the thing, though, is like, yeah, people would just went crazy for it. It was like. The one thing I will say is like, when I lived at my apartment by myself and covid was happening, I was working from home and they were advising obviously, unless it's an absolute necessity, do not go outside at all, stay indoors.
Speaker 2:Blah, blah, blah not even to a park. Yeah, you can't even do anything.
Speaker 1:That's where that's when they have the whole paper thing, where it's like if you don't have this paper in your car, you can be arrested like for being an essential worker.
Speaker 2:And yes, I did air quotations for those of you listening I remember I never had one of those and I went to work every day yeah, and I didn't have one either, and I was forced to work at home from farmers insurance yeah I mean it was fine and all, but I my call level went from 60 to 180 a day because people so farmers insurance.
Speaker 1:What they did, um, as far as what I was told is, we sent out emails and we sent out um papers. We sent out anything that we could to tell people, like phone calls, even from personal phones, whatever saying hey, this is Stephan from you know Farmers Insurance, blah, blah, blah blah. Like verifying, like this is legit, we're not canceling your policy at all, so you don't have to pay for months on end until the president or whoever gives the okayed for everybody to go back to work. So if your house burns down during this crisis, you're going to still be fully covered. We're going to cover you.
Speaker 1:And people would still call panicking that their policy was canceling because before the whole letter and everything else got sent to them, they got a notice of cancellation on their policy. So we would be on the phones. My shift was 11 to 8. I would punch in two hours early so I'd be up at 9 am and there would be nights that I would not be off the phone until past midnight were you at least getting some overtime I was yeah, and the overtime was great yeah, but the problem was is it was mentally?
Speaker 1:like oh yeah it was draining, like it was like, and I told my boss too, like you know she, she was a sweet gal or whatever. But she I talked to her and I told her I was like I can't do this anymore. I said, like this is ridiculous, like I'm like we already nobody's calling to pay for their policy, nobody's calling to update their coverage. No, they're just all calling to pay for their policy. Nobody's calling to update their coverage, no, they're just all calling to panic about their policy possibly canceling because of the covid pandemic. And I'm getting tired of taking 180 calls a day, if not more, staying from 9 am till past midnight, not getting any sleep, not getting any peace and quiet, all because these people are. And I get it at the time because it was fresh, like it was like a little after March when all this was happening.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it was still fresh in everybody's mind. But she goes we're doing all we can and we're debating about having more days off at this point for everybody, like only being open for like maybe two to three days a week, something like that. So that way, because it was over, it was overwhelming for everybody yeah and so yeah, it was, it was bad, but yeah it's like. Then the whole toilet paper craze happened and my dad, he worked at an apartment complex, uh, cleaning all the apartments for like people just moving in and stuff.
Speaker 1:So anybody that left toilet paper at their apartment or paper towel or vice versa, whatever in their fridges, whatever if they left paper towel on their no, but like if they left, like certain things like milk, that was still good, like for another, like week or two, whatever it was like, they would be like they would just take it. And they asked the apartment complex before if, like hey, excuse me, these people left, you know their, uh, their toilet paper. Like they have like a whole 24 pack, like is it okay if we take that, because we have family and the apartment complex? People be like, oh yeah, you guys have been working for us for years. Like you take care of your family.
Speaker 1:So my dad would come over, he would be outside, of course, but he would bring a trash bag and he would uh leave like so for me and my brother he would take some for him and laura and he would take some for me and he'd take some to johnny and dj for him and the kids and his wife at the time, and we would just just have like, maybe if it was a 24 pack, there was four of us, so we would probably have like. Maybe if it was a 24-pack and there was four of us, so we would probably have like six rolls each. But me, being a single man, I didn't have to worry about toilet paper for a while Plus. It was funny. Before the announcement was even made.
Speaker 2:Yeah, single men, don't number two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah we would. I bought like two packs because it was on sale for like, for like I think it was like a 30-pack or something stupid. It was like buy one, get one half off. So I was like for like $20 for a 30-pack. It was like the Meijer brand too, or whatever it was, so it was like cheap, soft, whatever you know. So, because I don't like the sandpaper feeling of it really, cheap stuff, yeah no, you gotta spend a little.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna sit there and go all out on charmin and spend 40 bucks on a 30 pack, but but you get those bears bro. You do get the bears bro. Yeah, that's what I, that's what I did, and so I had enough toilet paper to last me for at least a few months, if not maybe half a year, because and it was just all my walk-in closet that I had in my apartment, so it was like, all right, cool, and I closet that.
Speaker 1:I had at my apartment. So it was like all right, cool, and I just stayed inside. We played games. That's when Animal Crossing, new Horizons was out Me and you were playing that like crazy, oh I was just going to ask how did you so other than work?
Speaker 2:obviously that was mentally draining, but how did you mentally survive living by yourself during COVID?
Speaker 1:I'll say it was tough. One reason being was I had just gotten into a new relationship in february so you were able to number two then I was able to finally take that number two. No, we me and uh, it was alicia, my ex-fiance. Me and her started dating shortly. It was after the sonic the hedgehog movie, because the sonic the hedgehog movie came out in february.
Speaker 1:It came out on valentine's day of 2020 and wow that long ago, because I remember seeing it in theaters yep, it came out february 14th of 2020 and I saw it with my buddy, tim, and then I saw it with andrew and hannah, and then I saw it with alicia at the getty drive-in. Um, well, after covid and me and her met, um, and it was it was after her birthday, it was the 25th of february of 2020. So then after that, like a few weeks later, obviously, that's when trump was like hey, we're shutting the whole kit and caboodle down, and so I was like really depressed and scared that I was gonna lose this girl who I thought was like a god-given woman sent from heaven to me at the time.
Speaker 1:Um, emphasis on yeah at the time um, so yeah, she, you know I, I asked her, I dude, I it was almost like panic mode, like I was like, hey, I know we just started dating and I have full respect for whatever decision you want to make. I would love to keep dating you, even if it's just FaceTiming right now, until we know what's up with this pandemic. But I said if you do want to not date right now until further notice, or if you want to quit because of this whole pandemic thing, I would understand. I told her and I reassured her. I said I do want to keep dating you, though I don't want to just stop because of this pandemic.
Speaker 1:So we called ourselves the covet couple because cringe yeah, I know, very cringe yeah, so we so we pretty much just we survived it and wrote it out. And her family uh, my dad was the first one to get covid, and then my her dad was the first, next one to get covid, and then I was the next one to get covid, so, but that wasn't until 2020. Uh, what was that? That was 2020, I think, 2021 or 2022, one of the two and when you got covid when I got covid?
Speaker 1:yeah, because I was an assistant manager at o'reilly auto parts at the time okay and I remember I I came home from work one day.
Speaker 1:I was totally fine and I started like it. Basically, for those of you who haven't had covid, it's a very worst case of the flu. It's a bigger case of the flu. It's more intense. Like you feel, like you're burning up more, you're getting cold sweats more. Yeah, it sounds miserable still, but you know, other than that it's nothing like you're going to die over, it's just yeah, people were really only dying if they had previous problems with their health. Yup.
Speaker 2:But if you're relatively healthy, you're going outside getting vitamin D, because they were saying that people with vitamin D deficiency were the ones that were really getting it bad. And then it's like they're telling us not to go outside. Yeah, we get vitamin d from the sun, though right, and then that's what's super weird.
Speaker 1:They were saying too if you had, um, what was it like? A very weak immune system, like you were more prone to die too, so like elderly people, whatever that's with everything right, and the thing was that that's the part that scared me the most, because my dad he's now 72, but he's beaten Vietnam, he's beaten cancer and he's beaten COVID now Alive and healthy, just old.
Speaker 2:I've got to see him sometime. I haven't seen him in years I wonder if it's been. It's probably been like 10 years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been a's probably like 10 years. Yeah it's, it's been a minute like I mean he's doing good though I mean he's still, he's still thinking he's like 20, you know being 72 and all almost. But yeah, no, he was. Uh, I remember I was working at walgreens when he got covid and I remember one morning like I think it was like shortly after I clocked in at 9 am, because this is when the mask mandates were still going on and this was in 2020, it was in October, I believe, and I was living with my dad and stepmom at their house. So at 9 am after I clock into cashier, I get a text and it's Laura and she's like hey, your dad's been tested positive for COVID. So I don't know if you want to tell work that you need to come home. So I showed Brian the text with the picture of the positive message from the doctor that my dad was positive for COVID.
Speaker 1:And at the time with Walgreens, what used to happen is if somebody was a confirmed case or they had somebody in the family of confirmed case of COVID, they would lock the whole store down, tell everybody to go home for about I think it was like either the whole day, depending if they could get a cleaning crew or not. If they could get a cleaning crew, it would be about four to five hours. They'd deep clean and spray down the entire store, disinfect it. And then this was the very nice part I got two weeks vacation. Hey, to sit in the basement play Call of Duty and Fortnite all night and all day, and just. I mean, obviously I was doing more than that. I was watching out for my dad. I had to carry him to the bathtub because of how weak he was. He lost 30 pounds, jeez, because he couldn't move, he couldn't get out of bed and he couldn't eat solid foods because he'd just throw it back up Again. He beat cancer. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But cancer did a number on his body.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, it does to everybody, yeah, but cancer did a number on his body.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, it does to everybody, yeah. And so he couldn't keep solid foods down. He could have chicken broth and all that other stuff. That would be fine. But I had to help him in the shower. I had to help him get to the bathroom if he needed to go. I needed to just check up on him while Laura was gone at work in the morning and then during the nighttime I'd let her relax for a little bit and I'd watch out. You know, for dad, and yeah, it was scary because it wasn't looking good, like he almost had to go back to the hospital because he was getting weaker and he wasn't. And then there was a point where he wasn't eating and it had been like two or three days and it was dude. It was scary yeah, were you.
Speaker 2:I mean, you say it was scary. Were you scared? This was?
Speaker 1:going to be it. Yeah, I thought it was. Yeah, I'm not going to lie, because it was again all the reports of elderly people passing away because they had COVID had like I know it sounds bad, I'm laughing about it I know why you're laughing, because I know why I'm laughing but they had a weak immune system. So it was like what do you do at that point? And so I was dude, my dad's my best friend, yeah, and it's like I don't want to lose him. Like dude, we play Call of Duty Zombies with him. You played with him, yep, you know, know, the ray gun incident. Oh, I remember, yeah, and then just hanging out with them and being with them and him helping me through a lot, and I was like I, I don't want to see him go right. And then he started finally getting better after you know, and here here it is on this you know podcast about christianity and stuff and whatever. But we prayed for him. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so did the church at the time.
Speaker 2:What church were you going to at the time? Frontline, you can say it Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we went to Frontline and the pastor at the time, brian, he was praying for him and everybody there was praying for him because he also did the drums at that church too. So, yeah, but then eventually he started getting better and doctor said all right, you're good to go. And I, I got basically two and a half weeks because or no, I got three weeks full of uh pay, which was nice because it was my dad was sick for about two and a half, three weeks, yeah, and then, because what it was is after two weeks, you had to call and verify like, hey, you know, is the person feeling better? And I said, uh, they're not feeling better. No, they're still. You know, they still have covid.
Speaker 1:But then, after they were pronounced like you don't have covid, they'd be like, okay, well, you still are not going to be coming into work for about five days yep so then after that it was like all right, cool, so I got two weeks, um two, or I got three weeks paid and then just went back to work like everything was fine afterward. But then after it was funny because then right after that I think, they lifted the rule on that, where it was like you only got paid for like five days worth or something like that, and then it turned down to two to three days worth and then turned to okay, it's just a normal sick day, because that's what it is now still too yeah now it's just if you have covet like yeah, don't show up to work.
Speaker 1:But that was some of the perks of the pandemic if I'm allowed to say that I would call it a perk is I'm not afraid to say it. Yeah, I know I'm not either.
Speaker 2:I'm just, you know, for lack of better term. For lack better term, perks of the pandemic is I would have Tuesdays and Thursdays off from work, and they'd just be paid. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think they were trying to make it so that there wasn't a ton of people in the shop at the same time. I don't know what the reasoning for it was. It was just because of COVID, and then I would just have paid Tuesdays and Thursdays Right, and I played Animal Crossing all day in those days when I had COVID back at my old apartment it was Division in East Paris, or whatever. Oh yeah, you lived out there for a while, woodfield, yeah.
Speaker 1:I got about a week and a half's worth of pay and then the rest came out of my. It was called PPO, which is protected, or PPTO. This is a protected PTO. So I had accumulated enough to where I could have another week, at least for that time being to where it wouldn't get into my regular PTO. So I just used that for that time being to where it wouldn't get into my regular pto, so I just used that. I was, I still had covet after six, seven days and I I did another test and I kept taking tests and stuff like that. So I had covet for about two weeks and, yeah, it was not fun, but all I did was play overwatch and fortnite and call of duty. That was about it. So but but yeah, I ordered a lot of Little Caesars and Pizza Hut Because I didn't want to pay for shipped, because they're expensive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you get delivery pizza? Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:So I get pizza, but I mean, like that was the thing, though is like, okay, I know this sounds unhealthy and fat as crap.
Speaker 1:Like, okay, I know this sounds unhealthy and fat as crap, but like you have a $5 pizza with some crazy breadsticks for maybe, maybe with delivery, 15 bucks. Yeah, then, if you need to get groceries when you're, you know, and you get shipped or Uber or whatever it is, you're paying like 40, 40, 50 bucks, even if it's for like five items that cost less than ten dollars, because you got to pay the driver for gas and you got to pay for a tip and you got to pay for you know the expenses and stuff like that. It's like it's such a rip-off. I'm like I'll just get fat and order pizza, just have that. And then I mean I had other food there too, but it was like when I'm just like not in the mood to have a peanut butter sandwich for the fifth time this week because I couldn't keep it down, I was like I'm just going to try pizza and see if that worked. That made it worse.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, it's this heavy, disgusting greasy food. Yeah, I remember when I got COVID, it started off, nobody cares. Well, who's this? Nobody.
Speaker 3:Arnold Palmer.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, well, I'll talk to him then. Okay, all right, continue. When I got COVID, it started off as it was like the first day I had a fever and the second day the fever was gone, but I had a sneeze and then I lost my smell. And I lost my smell and taste for months.
Speaker 1:I lost my taste for three months, I think. I couldn't taste anything and it made me so sad. But the nice thing is too, when you lose your sense of smell or taste, you can think about it this way it may be disgusting food and smell like bad, but like you won't be able to taste it, you'll still get that food that you need in your stomach and it just may be food that you don't like. But you can plug your nose and not smell it and then just eat it if you didn't have taste. But the one thing I liked is when I didn't have taste, I could smell the food. So liked is when I didn't have taste, I could smell the food. So it's almost like tasting it versus not being able to smell it. And the only way to be able to do stuff like what my dad had was he could only taste, he couldn't smell. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So if there was something he didn't like, it was a taste test pretty much. So it was like yeah, yeah, you could look at something as like a big, nice thick chocolate cake and it's really dog poop from the backyard. But he can't smell it.
Speaker 2:But when he bites into it then he gonna taste a whole nother kind of flavor of chocolate yeah, as if I, as if he couldn't see it, yeah I imagine he just did they're just, I remember too, when we were living in that house with ethan and luigi, we all lost our smell, oh, and so we didn't know that the milk was going bad, oh, until our buddy alec came over and opened the fridge and was just like whoa.
Speaker 1:You know, milk has a thing to tell if it's bad or not right. So you know how in a gallon of milk or in a half gallon, you see that little indent that's in the side of the circle. Yeah. If that pops out, that's bad milk.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't know if we. Here's the thing. I don't know if.
Speaker 3:Here's the thing I don't think Didn't know that.
Speaker 2:I didn't actually know that. I didn't. That's news to me.
Speaker 1:I found out like a while ago, but yeah, I didn't know what it was for. I thought it was. Oh, they're just giving us less milk.
Speaker 2:I think we had milk, but I don't think all of us were big milk drinkers, so it just kind of sat. So it kind of just sat there and when we can't smell, we're not thinking about it right because we just open the fridge, take what we need and close it because I was still eating all the food that I normally would.
Speaker 1:People are like man you can't smell or taste, so nothing I could just imagine like you're sitting there, you open up the fridge. You can't smell anything, think the milk's all good, but then you like, open it up to like because you're a milk jugger, and you just like you're taking a deep breath in and you can taste on how bad the milk is Like you did remember when you did that at your mom's and it was chunks.
Speaker 1:Oh, dude, yes, Bad milk is. Oh, it's so gross because it did it moved. Dude, yes, bad milk is. Oh, it's so gross because it did it moved. I'm not even joking. I opened up the fridge, got the milk, I swished it around and it it's. It's like. This is how much of a fat cat I was. It swished around, it sounded and looked like it was still good milk yeah and then out of nowhere and it smelled like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I opened up the cap and I remember it smelled like normal milk. So I was like, all right, cool. And then all of a sudden I went to just drink it.
Speaker 1:So gross, nothing but dude. I threw up this thing. It's like I'm done with this. I was like that's gross. And then I remember, I think that same day too, I told my mom. I said, my, I think the milk's bad, or I just put it back in the fridge like nothing happened and just cleaned up everything and then just had mom discover it in the morning. She goes, I gotta go run to the store and get some milk, whatever dude, it was bad.
Speaker 1:I'll never make that mistake again. I hope it was disgusting. Yeah, that was chunky milk. Chunky milk is the worst. I'd rather smell bad milk and know that it's. Oh, I think anybody would I think anybody would rather smell it and then taste Chunky milk.
Speaker 2:That was just disgusting because you're like this and it's just.
Speaker 1:Well, then too it was. Then there was another time, too, where I was about to do it, but I was like, wait a minute, I'm gonna see this one real quick. I put it over the sink upside down and I squeezed it and it came out like toothpaste. Oh yeah, it was. It was that long gone. This was at penn street like that one street.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was a long time ago yeah, we have to go now but I gotta fill up my pop yeah, no that.
Speaker 1:Oh my god dude. Yeah, no that. That milk was bad. That was also the house that had bats in it too.
Speaker 2:I that was an old house.
Speaker 1:It was yeah, it had an octopus furnace from, like the salem witch trials octopus furnace yeah, it was like a, it was a boiler, pretty much that like would heat the entire house. And why they call it an octopus furnace is because there'd be like little tentacles, like tubes of iron or whatever. Because it was made out of actual iron and you would. It would go through the vents in the house to heat it up oh yeah, so that's why it's called the octopus furnace god, but yeah they had to destroy it with like a sledgehammer, because that's the only way that you can really bend iron like that.
Speaker 1:Um.
Speaker 1:So we got rid of that, got an actual central air system, I think I don't know, but yeah, even though we that was the main area the bats were in we cemented up all the holes and everything like that that they could have possibly been in. Somehow, they still got in these little things flapping around, bruce Wayne style, just coming on in the house thinking they own the joint flying in our faces. And then the last time we had one, marshall I don't know if you remember our neighbor marshall- no um, he was like an old kid neighbor.
Speaker 1:He used to come bounce on our trampoline with, like me and john, and his brother, stevie, would come over too, and we all had fun. But his, their dad came over and had a bb gun and he shot it. Um, because it hit in the corner on the porch, because we trapped it on the porch, and then, yeah, he grabbed his BB gun. You just hear like that, and then you just hear, and then just dead, bat, like, and we looked at it too. I remember I was like, oh, like.
Speaker 3:Oh brother. Oh what's that?
Speaker 2:Brother.
Speaker 1:I had to kill a bat once. Dude, they're, they're creepy. I'm sorry. Like I know, they're innocent creatures, but they're creepy when they're flying around.
Speaker 2:This was more putting it out of its misery. I had to hit it with a shovel. It was that, remember, when john and I worked at circuit electric. Oh yeah, do you remember those days? Yeah, there was a bat and it was on the ground. I think its wing was broken, so we put a flat piece of cardboard on it. And then I just was like With the soul.
Speaker 1:Just a dying bat. It's not getting put out, you're just killing it more and more.
Speaker 2:Dude.
Speaker 1:Oh man, those were the days yeah, yeah, those are the days killing bats, yeah, yeah. And then we had our old dog, sam, too there. Dude, she was the most innocent creature. I remember, sam. She could not hurt a fly, even if, like it bit her, she would not snip at it or anything like that. You like as kids we, you know, we're little little kids, so we weren't like my age now, obviously, and like pulling on our ears and all this other crap, but like we would pull on our ears as babies and she'd never nip, she'd never give us a look, she'd never. She'd just lick us and it was just that's what she'd do. And when a bat flew in the house, she was like, oh, it's a new friend, she'd look around and whatever.
Speaker 1:And then it would come attack her face and she'd be like that's what she would do, and then she just just lay down in her bed that was in the living room and just like I can't do anything with it. I'm just an old, frail golden retriever. She was old when I was your friend. It seems like she was 18 when she passed away. Okay, so she was an old dog. She passed in her sleep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we, we had a bed for her near the door in case she had to go to the bathroom and so yeah, and then we woke up one morning and then found out she passed in her sleep 18 years old, and we had her as a stray when she was three years old, three or four. She was pregnant, I know that much. And then she in her lifetime gave birth to two litters of pups and one of them became a police dog named Stanley, and then he passed a while ago. But we got to see Stanley and got like trips to the police station and get to see him because he was like the son of the mom and trips to the police station, get to see him because he was like the son of the mom and they got along and played well and stuff like that. So yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it was kind of a cool experience because Stanley was a black Labrador, so because she obviously had pups with like a black Labrador.
Speaker 2:Sam did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the last set that she had. So, yeah, stanley, cool, he was a cool pup so and then when he passed it was kind of like, oh man, that sucks, but we got to go. Um, we got like a little bit of a memorial thing for him, since he was, you know, the son of sam. So it was cool, it was a little fun childhood experience sad, but yeah, I remember when sam died, it hit you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because really hard well, yeah, because maybe it was tige tige too. Tige tige was so sam we had when she was like three or four yeah, but we had her for most of our childhood and then we had tige, and tige we raised ever since. He was a puppy, like when he was just getting his teeth in, pretty much so he was young, he wasn't even a year old, he was only like a few months old or whatever yeah, he could run around, play, do whatever we yeah, we got him when he was only a few months old and he was he.
Speaker 1:He died of uh cancer or we had to put him down, but he had cancer and I won't say what kind of cancer, but he had cancer. And, yeah, that was sad because we also had him most of our childhood too yeah we had him.
Speaker 1:Uh, I think it was a little bit before. No, it was a little little. No, it was a little bit before sam, we just got him too. So we had lily, that little bouchon that my mom had oh yes, I remember that way yeah, and the way that was. I have a dog voice for everybody. And then there's bailey, and bailey hated you oh, I hated bailey, yeah, the chihuahua, that was my bailey voice I remember bailey bit me once yeah, and he bit john too.
Speaker 1:He did not like John, because John would give him a look and Bailey would look at him. And then I think John kicked him one time because he bit him, obviously it wasn't just like John kicked him for fun, but yeah, he just straight up.
Speaker 1:Then didn't bother John afterward, he just ran and hid because chihuahuas are I, I mean, they're all bite, for sure 100. But then it turned around where he was humbled real quick. Maybe I should have kicked him, yeah. And then there was jewels and she was I don't know.
Speaker 1:She was fine, but there was one time where I was working at home and then all of a sudden, like she just she wouldn't leave me alone and I got like maybe two hours of sleep because she kept having to get up and go to the bathroom like every two seconds. And then it wasn't even her going to the bathroom, it was just she wanted to go outside because a rabbit was out there. I'm like, dude, screw off. It's 3 am. I have to work in like three more hours. Leave me be like I was upset and so I had to. I had to call in for almost a whole week. I was like I'm just gonna use my pto for a week because I can't with this dog yeah and I was watching them when my folks were gone on vacation for their uh anniversary.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I mean I had a special place for all my dogs, like sam, teage, lily, um bailey, jules. There was mika, who I don't think you ever met her because we only had her for like three months yeah, I never met her she was.
Speaker 1:She was an older dog, she was about like 15 years old and she could barely move, but it was an older couple that owned her ever since she was a puppy, yeah, and she was just the dog was getting too old and they were getting too old to take care of her. So she goes. Yeah, we just want her because we're probably pretty sure she's going to be in her final days here soon. So we just want her to go to a good home with like a younger family. So she, she lived for about three more months and then we and then she passed in her sleep and she was a good dog, though for she again, she couldn't move or do anything, so like we were just humbling her, making sure she was all good and comfy and she had a good place to stay and it was in the wintertime too.
Speaker 1:She was a good dog, though I think she was blind in one eye, but she's very responsive, very kind. She never bit anything like that. You just come over, you let her smell you for a second and then she'd be all fine and lick your hand or whatever. Um, and now we have daisy the other, bouchon or whatever dog breed she is god, I don't, I.
Speaker 2:I like her, but I don't like her at the same time she's got anxiety, just like my mom.
Speaker 1:perfect right, perfect, same haircut style, too, too, whatever. And then there's Yogi, who's my brother's dog, and Richard Hate him. Yeah, I know those dogs. Yeah, I don't care for Richard, neither does John, but I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 2:And then it is what it is.
Speaker 1:I don't mind the cats, because then we have Tyrone and Park Ranger, and Tyrone's a little kitten and he's, he's cool, I, I like him. And then park ranger's just a fat garfield. He literally will he do this cat. You remember your cat? Like how you just randomly claw people to death? Yes, this cat, if you don't give him human food, because for some reason it's only with that, like we don't feed him human food ever. We just give him regular cat food. But for some reason, if I'm eating a bowl of cereal and I'm about to drink the milk, this dude in the morning tries to come up and dip his paw in there, like cats do when they want water in their mouth, like that. And I, you know, pushed his hand, I did a little swat and I did it three times and then he went like that to me and he wasn't clawing me or anything, he was just like that to my Punching you yeah punching me and whatever.
Speaker 1:And then he jumped off the counter and ran away and I was like the heck, was that? Because I wouldn't let him have your milk, you don't look like you need it. Bro's got more rolls than Jelly. Roll Like shoot Stefan.
Speaker 2:Man roll like shoot. Stephan man's a representative of michelin man he is a fat cat.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say jelly roll is a big dude. Yeah no, he is a fat cat like he's not garfield big, but he's. When he walks you can see his belly just bark park ranger. It's a waterbed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's a waterbed dude I do like cats though yeah, cats are. I'm starting to grow on them. I'm 100 a dog person, but I'm starting to grow on cats I started to grow on cats because we have them at work oh, you do. Oh, that's right, you do. You did tell me something about your cat at work and they, they start to like you after a while.
Speaker 2:Like whenever I walk in the room, both of them just come up to me and sometimes I'll give them some of my tuna, because I do like tuna. But there's one cat that's a little bit fatter and he will push the other cat out of the way and eat the food and it's like oh, now, I see, I guess it was your turn.
Speaker 2:But he would probably be the one that survives in the wild because he's not afraid to take. Yeah, he's got the alpha status, yeah, which is cringy when talking about people, but with animals yeah, animals, it's like second nature yeah second nature get it kidding anyway, continue your kitten, are you kidding me now? Meow, meow get meow has it been a year since the titan thing?
Speaker 1:the titan yeah, it's been a year did you know that the oh my god, the there's another group that's going to make another submersible to go under and see the titanic and you're going to be one of the first ones to go in.
Speaker 2:Heck. No dude, you've wanted to see the titan I have, but not implode.
Speaker 1:I ain't gonna sit there with no. What are they gonna do? Get a ps5 controller yeah, what if it's? A ps5, maybe if it's a ps5 controller. Okay, yeah, I can't deal with the logitech man. I mean, that's the only thing that they found that survived the wreckage logitech controller.
Speaker 2:I also heard that, and this is obviously, this is conspiracy, but I I'm, I'm a bit of aist too, so put my tinfoil hat on. I heard that the government did know they did, that it imploded and exactly when. But they were just trying to.
Speaker 3:Well.
Speaker 2:I don't know the reason why they were trying to distract us, but that's the thing is.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you this much. You are right, it's not a conspiracy theory, though it's legit they did have. They were covering something up, we don't know what, but they did know that when that first sound of like the, what, sounded like a like that from underwater, that was the implosion. They knew that the submersible had cut communication and there was no signal from where it was, so they knew it imploded. So for five, what was it? Five or six days after they heard the noises or something like that, they like still continued the search for the titan submersible yeah thinking that people were going to have 96 hours of oxygen down there.
Speaker 1:no, they weren, they weren't. No, they weren't Not in that thing.
Speaker 1:No, well, I mean, they had an oxygen tank in there that would supply them for a while. But at the same time, when you have pressure like that's strong enough to literally crush you within a not less than a millisecond, because I think, what was it? They did a whole thing about the titan submersible with the implosion and they were like, well, how quick did the past? Like did the people like realize that? Like they were, they didn't even have time to realize that it was happening. Like they, they heard the creaks and that was about all they got to hear because of how much pressure is underwater.
Speaker 2:Would you die right away?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you die immediately.
Speaker 2:So you wouldn't drown, you would just die from the pressure pretty much their bodies turned into gel.
Speaker 1:There was no human bones, there was no I mean, there was like human fluids on the parts, but that was about as human remains as possible that you can get on that thing with that much pressure, like if it was like lake michigan. Yeah, you're gonna see everything, but if you're obviously down to the depth of the titanic, which is like two and a half, three miles miles down below the surface, you have a tremendous amount of pressure. Yes.
Speaker 1:And that's why they can't raise the Titanic. But yeah, when that implosion happened it was I think it takes 20. No, it takes like, I think, two milliseconds or something stupid like that to realize like you're in danger or for a reaction of pain. That's what it is like two, two, something milliseconds to realize like you're in pain, like when you get a paper cut, like it's like almost, like like oh my god, I got a paper cut. These people didn't even have time to realize that they were combusted into a gel-like form. They just heard the creak. Is what they're speculating form? They just heard the creak is what they're speculating is. They at least heard the creak of the carbon fiber tube that was poorly wrapped around this thing and just boom, died in an instant.
Speaker 2:I just can't believe these billionaires.
Speaker 1:They're stupid. Well, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's literally all it is, I know, but it's just like they get in there. They could have obviously spent their money on a much better sub Well.
Speaker 1:Titanic.
Speaker 2:James Cameron goes down there all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, titanic's KD right now is 1 1505 people just saying. You had 1500 originally in 1912.
Speaker 2:Now you got five from the titan, so let's just add more do you, do you have any speculations on what the government is trying to cover up or what whoever is trying to cover up?
Speaker 1:well, if it, or have you heard anything, I should ask I shouldn't say I heard anything, but I know in the past, so you how they were. So back in 19 I think it was 85 or 86 when they were originally like saying like we're gonna try to search for the titanic, um, robert ballard was the original like head guy that was going to um run the project, but really it was a secret um navy operation to find a I think it was a nuclear submarine from the nazis or something like that. They were trying to find and so, but they used the titanic as cover-up. They found the submarine, or no, it was russian. So they found the submarine five days before the expedition was supposed to stop this was an active russian submarine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this was not an active.
Speaker 1:This was a like one that had sunk or something, but it still had active like bombs or something on it okay and so they found the submarine and they still had five days, or something like that, to um left of the expedition to found the submarine and they still had five days, or something like that, to left of the expedition to find the submarine. So Robert Ballard was like, hey, we have five days left. Do you mind if we use these last five days to actually try to find the Titanic, since we're already out in the middle of the Atlantic? The guy was like sure, sure enough.
Speaker 1:1985 or 1986, they found the Titanic and it was within that period that they had left of the expedition and obviously today they're still grabbing pieces of it, they're still grabbing artifacts from it and doing research and taking as many pictures. The captain's room of the Titanic where Captain John Smith bathed, I think the bathtub's completely gone now. It's been that long underwater since, like I think the last picture of it taken properly was like in the early 2000 no, it was like 2015 or 16 somewhere around there and then within this short time period, like the bathtub's already gone. So the Titanic.
Speaker 1:As in dissolved yeah like it's dissolved completely, so it's a matter of time before the whole ship is about to probably dissolve at some point. But they're saying, oh, it'll dissolve in 300 years. I'm like I think it might be a little faster than 300 years. But people are like, yeah, next year it'll do it. No, not next year it'll do it. No, not next year. It's still there one giant piece or two pieces. I should say. But yeah, people are saying like they're, they're apparently still having a project to try to bring up the titanic and put it in a museum. I'm like that's stupid. That's literally to me like that's a grave site. You don't see them raising the uss arizona, do you?
Speaker 2:yeah, I don't see what the point is. The amount of money it would cost. Oh, they said it'd be billions.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we don't need to do that and plus you would need. They had several ways to do it. They thought about ping pong balls, because they can, the density of them, but again you're dealing with pressure underwater.
Speaker 2:Ping pong balls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because, if you, because they could do that with the USS Arizona right now. If they wanted to, they could put ping pong balls in there, plug up all the holes and put like just dump ping pong balls in there, and because of how much it sounds crazy.
Speaker 2:I get it because ping pong balls float and if you have enough of them it would literally take. They would need a lot of ping, oh yeah they would.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it would be an endless amount, but yeah, you would. You could make the uss, arizona, float to the surface if you wanted to, with nothing but ping pong balls. But but Titanic, it's split in half is the main problem. But then you also have where the water pressure is, so like those ping pong balls are going to crush, just like the Titan submarine, like you're not going to know that a ping pong ball existed. And then there's something with wax Apparently wax, you can make stuff float with, but again, with the pressure and how cold it is underwater, the wax would freeze and it wouldn't float anymore, probably just sink and crush like the minute it hit the ocean floor. So yeah, it's, it's dude, I'm a Titanic nerd.
Speaker 2:I know everything and anything about that thing.
Speaker 1:It's such a fascinating story and the shipwreck itself is just like. I got you down to the T on that thing. But yeah, they have different things. Like they thought about building a giant like boat crane thing that would have like netting or something that would be able to salvage whatever pieces made it up to the surface, would be able to salvage whatever pieces made it up to the surface, but somehow the boat will have enough pressure. As long as they raise it Slowly, it should be remaining in one piece. And then they put it on this bar boat thing whatever it is boat rescue thing and then they float it back to shore and I'm like, why would you do that?
Speaker 2:This is all crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is crazy, but they're like it probably will never happen, because technology is not that good to be able to do that and contain the ship's shape, because, again, water pressure and you also have to be very slow while raising it too, because it's also with scuba divers like they you can't just rise to the surface.
Speaker 2:Right, you have to take time. You have to take time, adjust, adapt.
Speaker 1:Because if they just went from two and a half three miles down to the sea level where Titanic's at and just rose it up really quick, the whole ship would be gone. Yeah.
Speaker 1:By the time they raise it'd be nothing but piles of rust. So it's like, okay, but you want to be delicate with it. But I, I say I'm on one of those spectrums like of titanic people where it's like, yeah, I'd be cool to see it in person, but it's also a grave, so leave it alone. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like I would it's also.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm sure it's cool to see we have pictures now we have pictures.
Speaker 1:They made a 3d model of everything, like a really detailed 3d model of exterior, interior, everything they did, scanning of and going down there is so dangerous and we yeah, we have proof on that.
Speaker 2:Well, we do. Okay, that was a terrible sub.
Speaker 1:The titan was made by morons yeah, it was made by like some guy that went to menards one day and was like man, I could make a sub out of some of this stuff yeah, I don't know how he got.
Speaker 1:I don't know if there's federal government regulations on that kind of stuff or what well I don't know how he passed, because because carbon fiber and titanium or whatever, because the dome part where they could see through crap was titanium or something and the carbon fiber. The thing is, carbon fiber is like one of the strongest things, too, on the earth, and if you mesh it correctly. The problem is is during production they didn't mesh it correctly and it was. It was a combination of that engineering and it's also with carbon fiber. It can only do so much pressure every time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that that submarine actually did go see titanic a few times. It got stuck on titanic a couple times. It the power cut off and everything because false engineering. The propellers that made it go forward and back just quit, so they had to get it hoisted up and yeah so, but the carbon fiber, when it's going up and down, up and down times, that mesh is not going to hold for much longer. You almost would have to rewrap it again in order for it to actually hold properly to go down there and see the Titanic. And the problem is they didn't do that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:They just kept the original everything because it'd be too expensive to take, apartwrap it. Blah, blah, blah and there we go.
Speaker 2:We heard a little and that was the implosion they did I just think that the things that people chase after in this life is just kind of ridiculous. At this point in my life that's what I've been figuring out yeah it's a little dumb, I mean and it's not just the titanic.
Speaker 2:It's like everything that's happening in our world today is just people are going crazy man yeah, they are like. You can't even like say hi to somebody without like them freaking out about dude, I know when I go walking, it's like you say hi, they just think you're creepy.
Speaker 1:It's like, yeah, I'm at millennium park, it's noon or you can just look at them and they're like, oh, I'm on that guy's kill list or something yeah, and it's like we're so disconnected and I don't know social media and technology yep, it does make me kind of sad because I mean back when we were kids, yeah, we had technology to an extent, but we didn't have like.
Speaker 1:I mean we later on we did, but we didn't have facebook, we didn't have myspace, we didn't have like we didn't have cell phones growing up we didn't have cell phones, so it was just kind of one of those things where we just were like, hey, you know here's, you know here's some sticks and marbles, here you go. I mean, we're not that old, but you know what I mean. Like we we had our things, like to just hang out and talk, like I could talk to you know, it was funny, I could and couldn't talk to women back then. Definitely can't really just go up to them now, unless they approach me or give me some kind of hey, come talk to me. I'm a pretty girl and you're an average looking guy.
Speaker 2:You know what I what are you scared to approach them? No, is that what it is? Or it's just the society? Society, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's just the fact that it's like you know. It's because, as a guy, nowadays, if you approach a girl, unless you're like a Chad, you get looked at as like creepy or stalkerish.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Stefan, you can't listen to those talk no talk girls that are just like oh, this guy looked at me at the gym and now he's a creep. You can't no I know there's so many people coming out calling those people out yeah and no, it is, and I've seen it.
Speaker 1:Funny that you mentioned that because on my for you page there was one of some some guy like this girl, uh, posted a thing and she goes, he was checking out my butt and I caught him on tape red-handed and then she was doing a stretch. That was not even a normal workout routine. That was like popping out her butt, like way out there. Yeah, if somebody's sitting there doing an upside-down butt squat on a butterfly bench or something stupid like that, I'm going to look, I'm going to be like what?
Speaker 2:the heck are you doing? Yeah, just because it's weird. You're not looking at them, you're looking at the act. That's bizarre looking.
Speaker 1:Now, if they were just doing regular squats or something, then yeah, you're obviously looking, yeah, regular squats or something.
Speaker 1:Then, yeah, you're obviously looking so, but yeah, it's like no, girls don't call out a guy like that just because, like they're doing a weird. You're doing a weird exercise that nobody for one has seen at the gym anymore or at all period, and you're claiming it is they're sexualizing. You Like don't do that crap. Same thing with guys too. Like you can't be doing some weird crap like you know, like a weird pelvic thrust movement or something on the bench, and then that nobody's seen and you get a girl looking at you and you feel uncomfortable. You're like, oh, she's objectifying me. It's like, no, don't do that. You're there at the gym to work out. If you want to help them out, don't do it in a flirty way unless you both have the obvious intention to you know, just do your thing, work out, spot them, do whatever girls want to be approached, though they do they.
Speaker 2:They say well, you're the ones on tiktok, always the ones complaining and those ones get the most amount of views. But yeah, the ones that come off, the guys that are creepy are when you're not confident about it yeah you got to go up there and and be confident. I mean, but it is hard because it's it. Yeah, you got to go up there and and be confident.
Speaker 1:I mean it is hard, because it's hard for me to just go up to any random person and start a conversation I mean, the closest I've gotten to is when I was at the croc center with john and tori, when we all were working out like religiously, we I I'd be on the treadmill because that'd be the first thing I would do for warm up yeah, it's a it's a nice warm-up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a nice the walk, the walk yes, and then I actually graduated to jogging, so that was Okay, I did. Yeah, my goal was to jog or walk at least two and a half miles to three miles. If I could push myself to do more, that's what I would do. And there was a girl that she out of all the treadmills, she picked mine next door and I was listening music and you know I just I looked over and I was like, hey, how's it going? She goes, oh, I'm doing good, how are you doing?
Speaker 2:just just a nice conversation see I'm taking that as 100.
Speaker 1:She wants me to talk to her because if there's a bunch of other treadmills and she chooses the one right next, to you, right, but I'm gonna sit there and I'm gonna try to talk right, but she was also in her 40s, oh, maybe so maybe she was desperate yeah, desperate, and you got like a 30 year old guy. Granted, there's not that much of a gauge or a gauge. Uh, age gap gauge it's a gauge. Yeah, it's a gauge, but um, yeah, I, I look at that as anybody 10 years or older than me is like cougar material but was she 40 who works out, or is it 40 who looks completely 40?
Speaker 1:like Like completely 40. Oh goodness, yeah, it wasn't even like yeah, I work out and I got like a nine pack. It was like no, I just am some 40-year-old girl bored out of my life and decided to come to the gym.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm definitely not looking for girls with nine packs. The girls who are too muscular are not really. I'm just not really into it when they're fit. I like when they're fit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if they're fit and they at least look like they're healthy to an extent like you can still be big and healthy, like I'm not like self-projecting here, but I'm big and last time I went into the doctors they said I was fine, just a little overweight. Yeah, you're not morbidly obese, You're just a little overweight. Yeah, I'm not morbidly obese, but like, yeah, I'm healthy for a bigger dude. Yeah. Like could I be skinnier? Yes, am I working on it?
Speaker 2:Yes, Are you going to be skinnier?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, girl.
Speaker 1:And yeah, that's the thing is, I have that determination to lose weight. I don't go to the gym, but my job right now definitely is a nice alternative. Yeah, I think if you combined that with a couple days or a few days at the gym you would see some big time results oh yeah, I mean I can already right now I don't have my man boobs like I used to. I mean I do, but I don't they're getting more.
Speaker 2:It feels good though, doesn't it?
Speaker 1:it does feel good and I'll look better on my motorcycle too. That's the other part. So I'll be a skinny guy in a motorcycle, not like a fat guy in a little coat from tommy boy kind of. So I mean it doesn't look bad already, like I look really good. I've gotten a lot of compliments on the bike but I mean it's again. It's one of those things where it's a nice confident issue or a confident, not confidence issue. I should say it's not that at all. It'll be a nice confidence booster is what I meant. Like I already have confidence. It's just more of a confidence booster, like once I get more in fit. Like I know girls like some girls like dad bods. That's what I got. I would say I have a dad bods.
Speaker 2:That's what I got. I would say I have a dad bod, yeah. But there's when they say they like dad bod. That's usually like the guys who are like football thick.
Speaker 1:Yeah they're oh thick.
Speaker 3:Football thick. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like dad bod, when I mean, I would say, you do look better. Yeah, it's like every time I see you're getting, you're losing a little bit more and more weight, so I would just keep going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that route and it's not going to be like I'm not. You know, I didn't go into my new job where it's like the expectation of like, since this is going to be more physical labor, like in a month I'll lose like 50 pounds. You know what I mean. But I know it's slowly but surely. But again, the more that I do and push myself like I do every day at work, then I'm going to lose that weight and see the result. Like I already know, right now my waist has already shrunk. So I'm pretty sure right now, because I'm a 36, I'm pretty sure, probably within another month or two I'll probably be able to go down to like a 34 or something like that. I would think, if I keep going at the rate that I'm going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would definitely do the slow route, because the people who lose the weight really fast you usually tend to gain it really fast, yup, but when you start cutting things out slowly, your body adapts.
Speaker 1:Pops and stuff like that Pop is the one biggest one too, because that's the thing like I'll have a pop and occasionally, like we just went to texas roadhouse and I had like a cherry coke, yeah, like I'm not sitting there like I used to be, where I drink a whole two liter and then like the next hour I keep burping, I'm sorry no, I just remember way back in the day when I would spend the night at your apartment, whichever one was, on plainfield by meyer oh, oh, that was Mayfield. Yeah, the protein bars.
Speaker 2:No, no, we would order pizza.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you would have a two liter and then I would wake up and hear you wake up and just be like start drinking out of the two liter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, that was crazy, because I was a hardcore dedicated gamer man. I was like I want to stay up late and game all night. You know what I? Mean, if I have two days off in a row it's just funny to see how much you've changed. Oh yeah, well, because now it's. I mean this right here. This is, and I I kind of watching my calories too, but this is like 80 calories.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but those drinkable calories add up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they do, because you have two of those 160. Yeah, but like I try to limit myself to at least two. So like if I go to work, I usually okay, I'll say this At work I'm drinking water like crazy. Yeah, water is good. And it's like I'll say this At work I'm drinking water like crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, water is good.
Speaker 1:And it's like today I brought one of these to work, so it was like, okay, cool, I'll have one of those at work just in case I need a little caffeine boost or whatever, because I'd rather have that than I would like pop. That's like Mountain Dew, because Mountain Dew is like what 360 calories in one swig.
Speaker 3:Like it is.
Speaker 2:It's really sugary yeah it's, it's 100 something calories, I think, per even. Uh, those little 20 ounces, I think, are yeah, still over 100 calories, yeah I want to say it's 150, but I don't know yeah.
Speaker 1:So I mean, like stuff like this, I'll sit there and I'll just I'll drink that, like you know, whenever, but with pop, and I'll just drink that whenever, but with pop and stuff again, it's a very rare occasion I'll be drinking it. I used to like where you were saying you saw me just go and then just opening up the pop and drinking it straight from the bottle. I used to be a huge pop fanatic. Back at the lake house with my dad I think you were there a couple times yeah, dad would buy a two liter of pop every weekend for me and John to have for the weekend. So I would get the blue Mountain Dew and John would get like a Dr Pepper or something stupid.
Speaker 1:And by the time my dad got home from work because he would leave, he would drop us off from school at his place and then he would go to work at 7 o'clock at night and he wouldn't be back till about I think it was five or six in the morning and then he'd hang out for the rest of the weekend with us.
Speaker 1:But I would have that two liter of Mountain Dew gone before he came home. And there was the first couple of times he asked me he goes, did I not get you a two liter? And there was the first couple times he asked me he goes, did I not get you a two liter? And me being a you know teenager, I'd be like no, you didn't, and I would. I would throw the bottle underneath the deck of the lake house so that way, like he wouldn't be able to go, it's in the trash. No, you drank it. It's like no, I didn't get one, dad, so yeah, but I, it would be funny if years later he went back and there's like 50 of them, and he saw all of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude. No, it was crazy. I used to drink pop religiously, like that'd be the only drink. I wouldn't even drink water.
Speaker 1:I would find Gatorade or whatever else I could find. That was not water or anything healthy. What made you finally want to change? It was just the fact that I looked at his typical Hallmark moment, looked in the mirror and I was like you know the scene from the movie the Grinch with Jim Carrey was like, ah, ooh, like that, that was me. I looked at myself and I was like, oh God, I don't want this.
Speaker 3:That's a great comparison.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I was like dang like this is, this is disgusting. And so I was like I'm gonna try to at least drink something else. So I was like you know, I haven't had an arizona tea in a minute, so it's a substitute, but I think it's a better substitute than having mountain dew. 24 7 yeah, it's definitely a better substitute, but I would say eventually yeah, cut it out yeah, I mean like, but this stuff, I think so far the arnold palmer is like probably the better one because green tea is like I think.
Speaker 1:I think green tea actually only just has 100 calories in it, so the green tea is not bad either. But yeah, I'm not pounding them like I used to either. Yeah, because I used to buy, like at walgreens, when they, in the summertime, they'd have a buy. It was like buy two, get them for like a dollar. You could buy a 12 pack for 12 bucks. So I would buy three cases of green tea and I would have them gone within like maybe a week and a half to two weeks Because I would just pound those things down Like they. To me they were that good. But then I was like, oh man, my stomach. And like I lost interest in the taste because I was just getting nothing but green tea, because green tea was the only one that I liked. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so I slowed down on that. And then I tried isn't it like the the bow drink? Let's like coconut water or something like that, or you know. It's like it's like bio or something like that it's called, but it's like in a clear container you get different flavors. There's like strawberry, kiwi and it's like all natural drink and stuff. There's like no added artificial sugar or whatever. And I tried those and they were a healthier thing for a minute, but I hated that. And then I tried coconut water and coconut waters. Yeah, it's not it's not good.
Speaker 1:No, it's not. I don't know how people can just drink that. It's like la croix. It's like I can't look. All right, I like la croix, I can't. It's not. I don't know how people can just drink that it's like la croix, it's like I can't. I like la croix, I can't. It's yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2:I get why people don't, but I can drink it.
Speaker 1:I can drink it all day well, I tried all the flavors too. I was like I'm trying to give it the benefit of a doubt, maybe. I'm like. I tried the I think it was the pink one I was like, oh man, I can't take this, let me try the blue one. Oh, let me try the green one. And I was like I like the blue one better than the green and pink. So I bought a case of the blue one and then I just I can't.
Speaker 1:I gave it to my neighbors like after one can, and I was like, here you guys, like little troy, here you go. And then, oh, thanks man, you sure you don't. I was like, no, I tried it. I tried it as a substitute for pop in arizona and I can't, it's so gross. Um, but yeah, and then I mean I feel better too and I know like I've seen myself improve, like just from losing weight too, or even just getting the motivation to do it like yeah I notice like I'm getting a lot better sleep compared to what I was when I was bigger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm able to get up easier in the morning. Yep, I'm able to be more active, like with my niece and nephew, and see them and play with them more. I mean my brother again can't really do much. I mean he can but he can't at the same time, yeah, but I feel like if they were to have me just watch the kids all day, I could hang out, play with them out in the backyard, do whatever, um, and then just overall I feel like at work too. I remember when I would do more physical work at walgreens I wouldn't be able to keep up with anybody because I was how big I was. But now at o'reilly's, where I work, like shoot that. That place has me on my toes, like I'm sitting there just hauling and chugging it through like a dang diesel train, like just chugging away water, just yeah, water, and then just keep pumping and lifting and doing all the other crap I'm doing over there too with all the auto parts that we're getting in are you getting sweaty?
Speaker 1:oh yeah do you?
Speaker 2:I reek, is there part of you that likes the sweating just a little bit?
Speaker 1:it makes me feel like I'm actually doing something yeah, that's how I feel when I'm welding.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like done with the day and I'm just like sweaty and even as welding you get really dirty too oh, dude, you should see like if I didn't shower after coming over and I just wore my o'reilly uniform.
Speaker 1:Dust, wood pellets, cardboard bits break dust everything from, like the brake lathe, because we shave um rotors and all this other stuff, like it's covering everything, including my face too, and the packaging sometimes just has dust on it because it's been sitting up on the shelf for god knows how long. And yeah, the, the workout or whatever it's, it's nice, I like it. And again, when I'm sweating and I I know this sounds bad, but I know, like usually some I heard this but like, apparently, if you're sweating, depending on how much you're sweating, obviously there's a point where it's disgusting. But then there's like it's a pheromone thing, where it's like you're producing pheromones, so it's like a good thing, like, oh, dang. Like you know, I'll say this, I won't say their name, but there is a girl that notices that I'm working really hard and she's over by me and I'm not going to lie, it was kind of weird.
Speaker 1:I could have sworn. I saw her, you know, just not like going right up to like that, like she just kind of like was smelling or whatever, and she goes oh, you know, keep it up. And she gave me kind of a look and I was like it's that sweat of body odor, that's like a pheromone or something like that. For us guys that comes off naturally. That smells good, obviously to a certain point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know if it necessarily smells good, but I think it's something to do with some weird primal thingy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's one. One thing too is like I I know for a fact if I don't and again it sounds bad, but if I don't smell like sweat and whatever, then I know I didn't do enough working out that day which I haven't had a problem with, but I don't try to overdo it, obviously at the point where I'm like drenching through shirt and it's like a sauna, but I'm putting up a sweat and I'm pushing myself to my limit and again I'm feeling good about it and I know I'm going to have a decent body again.
Speaker 1:I mean, I was really motivated to lose weight and I lost a ton when I was about to get married, I'll tell you that much. But then after obviously that ended or never happened. I should say that's when I started gaining the weight again because of the depression. But I mean, now obviously life has happened and stuff, it's more of like hey, I'm happy where I'm at and I'm happy with myself.
Speaker 1:So now I can focus on myself. And that's one thing too is that if you're looking for a relationship, you're focusing on yourself, you're trying to do better. People are going to notice that, whether you're interested in a romantic way or just a friendship way, or you know whatever people are going to notice. So it's just like you, you're like yeah, I'm seeing you, you're looking better.
Speaker 2:I'm not looking like a walmart santa anymore no, before I was getting confused, I was like dude, why are you not bringing me gifts?
Speaker 1:Why are you bringing me gifts.
Speaker 2:Why aren't you saying ho, ho, ho. But yeah, there really is something to working hard, sweating a little bit. The only downside to it is, if you want to do something after work, you have to go home and shower.
Speaker 3:Oh that's what I don't like is.
Speaker 2:I wish I could sometimes just got to work and go hang out with people, but I can't do that.
Speaker 1:I don't have that option I definitely can't I, if I even attempt, like if I came over here, dude, you would smell me and be like go shower now stuff, and you'd say the same thing about me I would I mean I'm dealing with metal and grease and oil and it's all over and yeah it can be bad, especially some of the grease too.
Speaker 1:Like oil, I mean like oil has a smell to it. Like I'm again auto shop so I'm used to oil smelling and whatever grease smelling. But grease from when I worked at my brother's factory that has an entirely different smell. Compared to oil I I would rather have the smell of oil on me than smell like grease. 100 it oil just has a better scent to it even though it's not probably healthy to inhale. But it has a better smell to it compared to like grease. Different greases have different, they have different texture smells. I guess you could call it I.
Speaker 2:I know what you're saying, but yeah, I know quite indubably well up. It's getting kind of late. It is 10 41 is it actually? Whoa, yeah, we're at two hours and 11 minutes. Holy crap, I didn't even know it was going that far.
Speaker 2:I thought we were at least an hour and a half and maybe all right, well, well, if we had more time we would definitely continue this, but you'll have to come on another time, time for us to hit the old dusty trail and everybody with all the crazy stuff that we talked about. Don't forget to find your identity in peace in jesus absolutely and have a very blessed week merry christmas and oh a happy new year yes, that's what I was looking for. All right, bye everybody.