013: Empowering Women and Redefining Modern Masculinity. With Dylan Erazo

Disclaimer: Sometimes I have people on here who I disagree with on a number of topics and Dylan is no exception. There are times in this episode where his beliefs don't line up with mine and I didn't say anything and times where I do. Being a podcaster is a lot harder than I thought it would be but the growth of learning on how to stand up for what you believe is actually quite fun, although difficult at times. Hope you all enjoy this one.

Embark on a transformative journey with us and Dylan, the introspective YouTuber, as we dissect the complex dynamics of gender roles and relationships in contemporary society. We tackle the pressing issue of how men can genuinely empower women, emphasizing the importance of fostering environments where women can unearth their unique identities and self-worth. The conversation takes a deeper dive into the intricacies of pair bonding and how a woman's sexual history can influence relationship dynamics, making a case for a return to traditional values that respect the natural interplay between the sexes.

Our dialogue with Dylan doesn't shy away from the tough questions – how do men navigate the waters of modern masculinity and spirituality, and what's the secret recipe for success in today's dating world? We dissect the SNL trifecta – Status, Network, Looks – and its undeniable influence on a man's romantic appeal, all while pondering why such pragmatic discussions often get brushed aside in religious circles. The chapter goes beyond just scratching the surface, highlighting the necessity for men to become secure in their identity and spiritually anchored before diving into the world of relationships.

Finally, we address the heart of human fulfillment – the spiritual and emotional dimensions that transcend material wealth. Our exploration includes the benefits of clean living and regular physical exercise, treating our bodies as temples, and the philosophical quandaries surrounding the nature of evil. Join us for this thought-provoking episode, where we don't just chat about self-improvement but challenge you to look inward and redefine the true quality of your existence alongside our guest, Dylan.

Transcript

Gender Roles and Relationships in Society

Speaker 1 0:00

What's up, dylan, what's up? So you are a YouTuber. Tell people what exactly you do for your YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 0:07

So I go to parties, which is an entertaining environment. However, I ask questions about the truth and how people feel, how to empower women, things of that nature.

Speaker 1 0:17

What does empowering women look like for you, I believe?

Speaker 2 0:20

empowering women is telling them not to follow what's trending. Tell them to find themselves before finding a man, Yep. Tell them to take care of their bodies, to take care of their innocence. Tell them to take care of their mental health. Love themselves before they can love anybody else and be happy.

Speaker 1 0:39

It's basically the opposite of what the world is telling them to do. The opposite of what the world is telling them to do, because the world, if the world, is trying to empower women, it's telling them that they should be sleeping around, and all that jazz oh yeah, it's completely messed up.

Speaker 2 0:52

Yeah. They're saying, uh, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say I'm gonna just be straight up with yeah, all right. Yep, they're saying pop your, you know, I'm saying throw it out here, do what you have to do all these things. However, they're saying that increases your value when it really doesn't right, it really doesn't. It actually decreases your value. All of your value is in your. You know what I'm saying? It is in your sexual exclusivity. So when you protect your body, when you protect your energy and when you protect your being, that's where your value is at. The more you give it up is the complete opposite you're giving up your value yeah.

Speaker 1 1:26

Yeah, I don't know if they lose their value, but it would be harder to bond with someone down the line. So that's what I think of that. I don't think a woman is less valuable if she has a higher body count, but I will say it's going to be harder to date her because it's going to be harder to bond with her.

Speaker 2 1:46

And I would also say that's kind of subjective too, because some guys don't care about body counts and they still might be able to find a man, but I would say majority of men care about a woman's body count.

Speaker 1 1:55

Yeah, I most certainly care. I don't, but I just don't think she's less valuable. But I do also know that it's going to be harder for me to date her because her pair bonding significantly drops. I mean, they say that women with even just a body count of five have a 20% chance of a happy marriage. Really, yeah.

Speaker 2 2:19

And, however, I think the responsibility of a successful marriage is the man. I think the world's responsibility is of a man. The responsibility of his family is about a man.

Speaker 1 2:30

Yep.

Speaker 2 2:30

The responsibility of the wife he chooses is of the man. All of the responsibility is men. We can talk about women, but I genuinely think it's all of men's responsibility. All of this garbage that's going on is because of men's fault. Men are pushing these ideals to brainwash from the inside out and, at the end of the day, it's all of men's fault and it's our responsibility to put our women back in check I agree, but how do we go about doing that?

Speaker 2 2:57

well, the way I'm doing it is by going to parties, having conversations with beautiful women, getting to know them, getting to understand their part and their emotions and their perspective, and maybe we can talk about it, have a conversation and hopefully get closer to the truth.

Speaker 1 3:10

So having personal conversations is one way to start by changing Of course, sharing ideas.

Speaker 2 3:17

I think men right now are very men and women are very disconnected. For sure, we are very competing against each other instead of working together.

Speaker 1 3:26

yeah, and that sucks I think a lot of what the propaganda from the world too is showing is men should be more feminine and women should be more masculine, and it's just proving that that's not working. It's not god madefully.

Speaker 2 3:45

Masculinity and femininity are opposites. Yes, that attract each other. Yep, actually, studying men and women and the men and women dynamic brought me closer to God. I was like, wow, this is a math equation almost to a relationship. And when you have the disconnect, when you have the woman that's masculine and the man that's feminine, it's hitting against each other within.

Speaker 1 4:16

Yeah.

Speaker 2 4:18

And then how can you pair with somebody else when they're not good within?

Speaker 1 4:22

Especially because it's out of nature too. A masculine woman is out of her nature. She's able to do that, but it's not really natural for her. And when it comes to feminine men, that's not natural for them either. And women just aren't really attracted to feminine men. But they're constantly being pushed that way in movies at school to be that way and and in the movies it works right. You see this feminine man and he wins the girl over. So in the movie it's working. So they get brainwashed that way, yeah, into thinking that this is the way that it's going to be. And then so guys start acting this way, hoping that it's going to attract a woman, and it's just not working.

Speaker 2 5:05

It's kind of wild, destroying itself in real time and people are noticing it and we're going back to traditional values. I truly believe that, and if you want to have a successful relationship, you have to listen to what we're talking about and at least try to understand, because if you're listening to the media, if you're watching the mainstream, they're leading you in the right wrong direction, and then it goes back to this is the Bible playing out in front of us. The world is leading us away, while God is trying to bring us back to the truth. Yep, and whatever your definition of God is, I think it's this good, traditional, back to nature, the way he created. So you're completely right, relationships are falling and it's all because men are acting feminine and letting women become masculine and putting women in masculine nature, because if a man can't provide for his woman, the woman has to become masculine.

Speaker 1 6:02

Yep exactly.

Speaker 2 6:07

The woman has to become masculine. Yep, exactly. And then that's also, if you want to bring it to a bigger point, the woman has to go to work now, because the average man can't make enough to cover the entire house, correct? So, according to society and the government, the way that the money and the economy is moving, women have to go in their masculine nature to also be able to put a roof over their head, right.

Speaker 1 6:27

So how do men conquer this issue? How do we go about fighting this?

Speaker 2 6:32

You can't be an average man anymore.

Speaker 1 6:35

Yeah, I agree, I've heard that. I've heard that on Christian channels, because the church is going to tell you that we're wrong for saying that. They're saying you just need to be godly and believe in God and in his timing, a woman will come. But being godly isn't enough to attract a woman. It sounds bad, that's not what you're going to hear in church, but it's just not. You have to have I agree with what you said that you can't be an average man anymore. You have to work towards goals, whether that be an average man anymore, you have to work towards goals, whether that be starting a business, maybe you have to work two jobs. Go to a college with a good degree, because you can go to college and get a really dumb degree and go nowhere. And Like this podcast is one thing that I want to start doing. If this starts growing, I can make money from this On top of my other job. Then I would be put myself in a different bracket. That's no longer average.

Speaker 2 7:31

It's called SNL, the trinity. To get women Status network looks. You need status, which is money and fame. Network people you know, look the way you look. You need to max out all of these areas to get women nowadays because they're comparing you to the rock do we really need to be famous though? It increases your value in a social economy that we're in.

Speaker 1 7:56

Yeah I suppose with social media it almost seems like girls do want a guy that has a ton of followers.

Speaker 2 8:04

Not just the followers is bigger than the girls. It's about the influence you can create. It's about the message you can spread.

Speaker 1 8:12

So it's them seeing you as a leader in that way, exactly, okay, that makes a little more sense. I thought you meant just famous, as in like a movie star, because the movie stars usually are not living according to the bible I'd rather have 100k true followers rather than 10 million fake followers yeah for sure, bots.

Speaker 2 8:38

You know what I'm saying yeah, nobody wants bots and if you are, if you have 100k followers, you're a digital king, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 8:46

Digital king.

Speaker 2 8:46

And then you got these people following you. It goes back to leadership.

Speaker 1 8:49

Yeah.

Speaker 2 8:51

So all of these things are what you need to work on surface level, and these are things that we have to take accountability on as men. You have to do these things. It's not skipping around the bush. The work has to be done, or else you're just going to be a loser and you're going to fail.

Speaker 1 9:07

What about the?

Speaker 2 9:08

spiritual side of things though. Okay, exactly. So then we got that's all surface level right.

Speaker 1 9:13

And the spiritual level.

Speaker 2 9:14

The only way to get these surface level things is spiritually. I talked about the law of correspondence. The law of correspondence states that how you are spiritually represents itself physically. So to have these things, you need to have a source. You need to have a specific spiritual understanding with yourself to be able to function Right. And if you have the money but you don't have the intelligence to understand who you're talking to and the people you're around, you might get finessed. If you don't have the experience with girls and you have all the money, she might take your money. And you need the experience, you need the life, you need to understand yourself before trying to get all these girls.

Speaker 1 10:00

Yeah, you definitely want to be secure in who you are before you start dating, because I've had it back in the day where you think that the girl is the best prize of life and nowadays I wouldn't say that's the number one prize for me. What's the number one prize? Well, you know God, of course, but for me, what is the number one? That's a good question. I don't really know what the number one price is for me. What is the number one? That's a good question. I don't really know what the number one price is for me right now, other than following in God's path that he has for my life. But that's so cheesy to say. Marriage for me just isn't even on my priority list right now. It's not even on the list at all. If a girl comes up to me or something happens where I find somebody, okay, but I'm not actively searching for girlfriend, slash wife, which makes sense and you are still developing your value.

Speaker 2 10:59

I don't think a man hits his prime until he's like 35, 40 and you have all the time in the world, so take it.

Speaker 1 11:07

Well, I've only got five 10 years right now, but Not necessarily.

Speaker 2 11:11

You can still be a 50 year old guy pulling. I'm not going to lie, not necessarily.

Speaker 1 11:15

You can still be a 50-year-old guy pulling. I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 2 11:22

Yeah, that's true there are some girls who are in their 20s go for 50-year-old guys. I don't know why they do, because women value experience. Women value money. Women value respect, women value. We like completely opposite things. Women like experience, men like innocence. Women like strong Men like experience men like innocence. Women like strong men like weak, small. We want to take care.

Speaker 1 11:41

We want to provide you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 11:44

Men, women, we're complete opposites, we attract oppositely.

Speaker 1 11:48

So why don't you think that that's talked about in church in today's day? Because that's why Christian relationships, I think, are failing, because they're not talking about what actually attracts women.

Speaker 2 12:03

Yeah, isn't that interesting. And so that's why I started my whole YouTube thing, right? Because I go out when I talk to girls at parties, interesting environments, and I'm out here talking to girls and talking about this, but then I might also talk about God, I'm also going to talk about love and I'm also going to keep it positive. And the church I don't know why the church doesn't talk about it. They definitely should, but the church is really God and book oriented. But I don't want to say we need to adapt to modern times.

Speaker 1 12:36

Right no.

Speaker 2 12:37

But understand that we're in a tension economy and we're losing. All the attention is going towards the Satanist, towards the evil, and if we need to do something, if we want to do something that actually spread the word, we might have to adapt and talk about certain things like this, talk about the taboo subjects.

Speaker 1 12:59

Yeah, and I don't think it necessarily needs to be on a Sunday morning sermon, but I'm more talking. If there's a college age night or youth night, maybe start implementing some of this into it, teaching guys that ambition is good, godly ambition is good. It's okay to make money, it's okay to chase your goals as long as it's done with God, of course, because we have Proverbs in the Bible that tell us that wealth is good, it's okay to gain wealth and it's like slow wealth is better than wealth gained fast. But then we also have Ecclesiastes that teaches us we can have all that stuff, but without God it's meaningless. I think if they could find that balance because a lot of times it's always the stuff that I hear in church is just sitting in the stillness with God and the presence of God, and that's important, to have your quiet time, prayer. But girls aren't dating the dudes that are out in the woods crisscross applesauce for three hours meditating on the Bible every day. They're just not.

Speaker 2 14:08

It's not reality and right now I'm going to tell you myself I sit still with God. I sit still with myself all the time. It might not be for 30 minutes, it might be for 20. It might be for. I'm going to tell you myself I sit still with God. I sit still with myself all the time. It might not be for 30 minutes, it might be for 20. It might be for 15. I sit still as a break and, okay, let me get back to consciousness, and that's really important.

Speaker 2 14:24

But developing understand that you also have to develop a relationship with yourself and take accountability for your own actions. Putting everything on God is wait, okay, what are we doing here? If I can just sit here, sit here and pray, god's sending me the light bulbs, but I'm not jumping on. What am I doing? I have to jump on and now it's my turn to create the action. It's my turn to put in the work. And if you're not putting the work in and if you're just saying God's going to do it for me and he's all trying to send you help, he's sending you opportunities and you're not taking advantage, that's your fault yeah, and just to make sure I'm not saying that sitting and quiet is bad.

Speaker 1 15:02

Of course no, I know what you mean okay I just, I just wanted to say it's it's not good to only be doing that all the time yeah, for sure, I know what you meant and actually I want to give a little review.

Speaker 2 15:12

let's see how this sparkling spring water tastes. I like that. Is it good? Is it flavored?

Speaker 1 15:21

No, oh, it's just sparkling water.

Speaker 2 15:23

Straight, sparkling water, nice, healthy young man. Let's talk about that. Health, your body, is your temple.

Healthy Living and Spiritual Exploration

Speaker 1 15:31

I agree Some people just equate that part of the Bible to it only refers to sex and you should treat your body like a temple by not having sex before marriage. And I agree you should wait till marriage. But I think treating your body like a temple is all across the board. Health wise, don't be drinking alcohol. Personally, I don don't really like to drink alcohol. I've had it sometimes, I'll have some, but I just not my thing okay but how would you go about being healthy?

Speaker 2 16:02

if god made it, I can eat it. So fruits, vegetables, meats, eggs, rice, bread, regular food. Try to stay away from the sweets, the sugars, for sure the artificial ingredients. It's all synthetic and that all messes up your gut microbiome do you know how it messes up your gut microbiome? It's synthetic green. It's synthetic, it's synthetic ingredients.

Speaker 2 16:28

Yeah, and you are an organic body yeah I only eat organic fruit, only only eat organic foods. So sometimes I might fold and eat a pizza, but majority of the time it's okay to indulge every once in a while. Yeah, that's true. Have something, but in the pizzas I eat they have meat, chicken meats and a lot of vegetables. So I try to it healthy. I mean that's bread and cheese, so we can almost argue that's healthy.

Speaker 1 16:57

But yeah, we can almost argue it depends on what the dough is made of and the cheese and how much grease is in it olive oil is healthy olive oil is healthy butter only oils. You should be avocado oil avocado oil and olive oil are the only two you should be using no vegetable oil, no seed oils, no peanut oils, only drinking water.

Speaker 2 17:23

However, for the drinkers, tequila agave.

Speaker 1 17:26

So is that really a healthy?

Speaker 2 17:29

alternative. Yeah, it's the healthiest. Straight straight tequila, no mixed mixed drinks, no sugars and not often.

Speaker 1 17:38

Keep it moderate. Yeah, I don't like tequila Not my thing. Back to the health, though. How else can we be healthy? So is working out a way of treating your body like a temple 1,000%.

Speaker 2 17:52

You need to work out, you need to.

Speaker 1 17:54

How many times a week?

Speaker 2 17:56

Every day, if you can no rest days.

Speaker 1 17:57

No, rest days, no, why not?

Speaker 2 18:00

You don't use it, you lose it. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 18:02

What about honoring the Sabbath, though? Isn't it okay to rest one day out of the week?

Speaker 2 18:07

In a capitalistic society? No, it's not.

Speaker 1 18:10

All right, I mean that's, I'll probably still take my rest day, but you can, and that's completely fine, however and I take rest days.

Speaker 2 18:17

I'm not going to sit here and say I'm iron minded, but my rest days are natural, like if I don't have time to go to the gym. However, if I have space out of my day, I'm definitely going to the gym 100%. But if I don't like after this podcast, I'm going to go to the gym this late. Yeah, I don't like, after this podcast, I'm going to go to the gym this late.

Speaker 1 18:36

Yeah, I don't go to bed till six in the morning. Oh really, yeah, it's the opposite of me. You're on third shift schedule.

Speaker 2 18:42

Yeah, I am.

Speaker 1 18:43

Is that where you worked at the hotel?

Speaker 2 18:45

No, I was two to nine.

Speaker 1 18:46

Okay.

Speaker 2 18:47

And then after work I would stay up and edit videos all night.

Speaker 1 18:51

Gotcha.

Speaker 2 18:55

Okay, videos all night, gotcha. Okay, then I stay up till six in the morning, that makes sense. Then I go to work two o'clock, so then I get that little morning to sleep.

Speaker 1 19:00

What kind of working out is best for us? Do you know? Is it lifting weights, cardio, mix of both?

Speaker 2 19:06

Everything. Full body cardio. For sure, you need cardio, you need to be able to run. Um, I lift, but lifting is important. Full body exercises. So hit the core, the arms, the legs, hit everything. I also do 100 push-ups every single day 100 push-ups every day. Yeah, and then I want to increase it to 100 push-ups, 100 squats and 100 sit-ups. So I hit every single spot every single day. And that's before the workout. And then you got the lifts, and then you got the running. I also play basketball and I also fight.

Speaker 1 19:37

Ooh, you fight. Yeah, Do you actually spar with people?

Speaker 2 19:41

Yeah.

Speaker 1 19:42

Nice. I plan on posting some videos soon. Where do you go for that?

Speaker 2 19:48

I'm looking for a gym right now. Right now I'm just me and my boy boxing, hitting the bag, but we just hit each other. So I just fight my friends right now, but I used to fight when I was in eighth grade.

Speaker 1 19:59

Nice On our reel on Instagram. You commented on it. It was the one where we talked about bad things happening. The kid that was on here, logan, was talking about losing his grandmother and we talked about where evil comes from. That was on here. Logan was talking about losing his grandmother and we talked about where evil comes from. So where do you think evil comes from and how do you define God with?

Speaker 2 20:22

that I believe evil was created by God.

Speaker 1 20:26

Really that's a new take, because I think that evil is just the absence of God. But We'll hear your case.

Speaker 2 20:35

I believe that we are in a God created simulation. Consciousness is God, existence is God, everything is God, and I'm one with God, one with my being. And I've dealt with a lot of evil in my life. However, all the evil made me closer to God because now I want to do good. If I never experienced evil, then I really wouldn't care if I did evil to you, but I understand how evil feels. So I only want to treat you good and take care of you. And it's a simulation that God created. And he said listen, there's the evil and there's the good. You have free will. You're going to learn some lessons from it or you're not. You're going to fall. And what I decided to do was use all the evil in my life and turn it into lessons, and I believe I needed that loss. I needed these traumas, these tribulations to grow.

Speaker 1 21:30

Yeah, you can't be made in the image of Christ if without going through some type of suffering or trials or whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 2 21:40

My favorite message of Jesus Christ is as a man, put the cross on your back and walk up that hill. Take everybody's suffering, take everybody's pain and take care of their problem and walk up that hill. I think that's the definition of a man.

Speaker 1 22:00

So you would describe Jesus as the perfect man, which I mean? He?

Speaker 2 22:05

is, but yeah, I like that and it's somebody that we should look up to for sure.

Speaker 1 22:08

When you say God is everything, are you coming from a pantheistic religion where God is like this tree is God, or the clouds are God, or what do you mean by God is everything?

Speaker 2 22:22

Yeah, he's the whole consciousness experience.

Speaker 1 22:25

Well, what does that mean?

Speaker 2 22:27

So me experiencing this right here. I believe this situation right here is.

Speaker 1 22:31

God. That's where I would differ from that. I think God is in heaven and he creates all things and he's all powerful and all present. So he is, he's here, but he's not like this. This isn't God, like I'm not God. This is his creation. Yeah, I'm his creation, but I'm not him.

Speaker 2 22:51

And we're also existing and living, and Jesus said to be like him.

Speaker 1 22:58

Yeah, be like him, but not be him, because we can't be God. At least, that's my belief.

Speaker 2 23:06

I believe we can be the light.

Speaker 1 23:08

What's your definition of the light?

Speaker 2 23:10

Positivity, truth, love God.

Speaker 1 23:13

Are you talking about becoming a little God?

Speaker 2 23:17

No, God created me and I'm created in his image.

Speaker 1 23:20

Correct.

Speaker 2 23:21

And I have a God experience. We're the only person with this type of consciousness. My mind is a God-like being. I'm not God.

Speaker 1 23:31

That's all I wanted. To hear you say no, I'm not God.

Speaker 2 23:34

I'm a God-created being, but he also created us in his image.

Speaker 1 23:38

Yep.

Speaker 2 23:40

And I take that really almost literally the way that we move, the way that we are and the fact that we are the most powerful compared to all the other mammals.

Speaker 1 23:49

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 23:51

And we have all the control in his simulation that he created.

Speaker 1 23:56

What do you mean by? He created a simulation?

Speaker 2 23:58

Because there's truths of the world. There's ways to win the game.

Speaker 1 24:01

Ways to win. What game Life? What does winning in life look like?

Speaker 2 24:06

Winning in life for me is understanding the men and women dynamic and having a wife and children one day.

Speaker 1 24:13

And then raise them up to be Christian.

Speaker 2 24:16

Raise them to be seekers of the truth.

Speaker 1 24:18

What's the truth, though?

Speaker 2 24:19

Love, positivity, God tradition, Whether it's Christian, whether it's Muslim, I'm very open-minded to all religions.

Speaker 1 24:28

Really.

Speaker 2 24:30

However, so I would consider myself a seeker of the truth.

Speaker 1 24:35

Which one do you fall mostly on right now? Religion.

Speaker 2 24:39

Christianity. Well, let's hope it stays that way and I really respect Muslims' high standards. I believe in good works and I believe in being pure and doing good actions.

Speaker 1 24:52

Yeah, I believe in doing good works too, I think when it comes to Christianity they're. They say that good works don't save us, whereas in the Muslim religion that, like, you're saved by your good works, you become a good person from your good works. Whereas Christianity says I put my trust in Jesus and then, because he loved me first, now I'm going to do good works in honor of that. But I'm not actually saved by those good works. They don't make, they're not what get me into heaven. Putting my trust in Jesus is what gets me to heaven and then, as a result of him loving us and changing us from the inside, now I want to do these good works because I've been changed, because Muslims believe in Jesus too. They believe in everything that we pretty much believe about him, except for the fact that he was God. They don't believe that he was God.

Speaker 2 25:48

We have to be like Jesus, and Jesus did good works.

Speaker 1 25:51

Yeah, I agree we have to do good works, but I just don't think the good works save us. I think that if you're not doing good works, then it just seems like you're not really changed, if that makes sense. So it's really hard to explain, because you're not saved by them. You're not saved by the good works. But if you're not really doing anything and you're the same way you were before you came to Christ, it's almost like there's no change. Are you really actually saved, if that makes sense?

Speaker 2 26:23

Do we agree that good works are necessary?

Speaker 1 26:27

In one way or another. Yes, I just don't think that they are what save us. I think they are a result of salvation.

Speaker 2 26:35

So Muslims are not saved.

Speaker 1 26:38

If I'm going to believe the Bible, then no, they're not.

Speaker 2 26:43

And then that's where my disconnect is. I believe the book of the people are all saved.

Speaker 1 26:48

Book of what people or what book?

Speaker 2 26:51

The book of God, whether it's the Bible or the Quran, and we see it through their actions right. We see societies with God in them and how they're functioning. America this is the first time we're in a society that's godless and you see how it's crumpling from the inside out. However, if you look at the Muslim countries, they're still successful. They're still moving in traditional values, which is important.

Speaker 1 27:16

Well, what countries? What Muslim countries? Because not all of them, of course not all of them. If you're talking about Dubai, okay, yeah, they're thriving, yeah. Or that's the city that's in the country. The United Arab Emirates is thriving, yes, but Iraq ain't looking too hot.

Speaker 2 27:34

Yeah, and then you got extremists on both ends that aren't necessarily benefiting anything.

Speaker 1 27:39

Yeah.

Speaker 2 27:40

So there's always a good in between and a good balance of peace.

Speaker 1 27:45

But I also don't think that I mean because you say that the Arab countries are. I'm sorry, the Muslim countries are thriving and ours is falling. But you could also say that we've lost our Christianity as a nation too. So wouldn't that be a result of why we could be falling?

Speaker 2 28:04

Yeah, of course I agree. Yeah, the reason why we're falling is because we remove God out of the equation and people are confused what genders they are, so then now relationships don't work and then now both parties have to work, so a man can't like everything we've been talking about, brother. Yeah, is the reason why it's not working? Because there is a force, evil. The devil is breaking down families in the West and the family is the most important environment.

Speaker 1 28:41

Yeah, the family is what keeps economies going. It keeps countries thriving. I can't really explain why it just. It just makes sense.

Value of Spiritual & Emotional Fulfillment

Speaker 2 28:53

Yeah, because you are your environment, you are the people who are around, you're the people that respond and I believe the reason I am who I am is because of my family, and I'm forever grateful for that into a person now we're talking more spiritual. And if you don't have these good fruits, if you don't have these good family ties, if you're lacking from something within, none of the physical can help you oh yeah, all the physical is going to come out empty if you have nothing spiritually or mentally, emotionally.

Speaker 2 29:34

Yeah, for sure, it's all gone it is all gone and that's why people sell their soul for so cheap. But money is replaceable, money is fake, your soul is not correct. Okay, well, that was a pretty good discussion, I think that was amazing and uh, although we obviously don't agree on everything, that's okay it's fine brother we're, and I believe conflict and disagreement is extremely healthy and important.

Speaker 1 30:04

Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 2 30:05

Because you gave me your perspective, I give you mine, and then we can work on that to get closer to the truth.

Speaker 1 30:12

Yeah, for sure. All right, Dylan, thanks for coming on and hope to have you on again sometime. And thanks everybody for listening.

Speaker 2 30:22

Thank you.